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Controversial BANNED Member # 5219	written Sunday, December 12 2004 06:57 Profile #0 Why doesn't this forum allow avatars? :confused: :confused: :confused: Alot of others, if not all, allowed them. -------------------- You can take my Windows XP when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 394 \| Registered: Saturday, November 20 2004 08:00
Or else o'erleap. Law Bringer Member # 335	written Sunday, December 12 2004 07:01 Profile Homepage #1 Once it did. The loading times caused by the avatars got to be excessive, and Spiderweb decided that they weren't so helpful after all. —Alorael, who blames gigantic dragons and suchlike that made astoundingly painfully and highly distortional appearances. Posts: 14579 \| Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Controversial BANNED Member # 5219	written Sunday, December 12 2004 07:09 Profile #2 Ohhh...thanks :) But couldn't they make them smaller? If you've ever been to gamespot, they have small avatars and it works for them. :) -------------------- You can take my Windows XP when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 394 \| Registered: Saturday, November 20 2004 08:00
Arancaytar Law Bringer Member # 2984	written Sunday, December 12 2004 07:42 Profile Homepage #3 Well, they could... but I guess they just decided to go the whole way and abolish the problem altogether. It makes sense; there is a whole lot more traffic and posting here than on any forum I've seen yet that had avatars. If they hosted them, they would be paying for that traffic. Can they control the filesize if they don't host it themselves? -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 \| Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00
Reality Corp. Agent Member # 1104	written Sunday, December 12 2004 07:56 Profile Homepage #4 quote: Originally written by The fire upon her carcanet: Can they control the filesize if they don't host it themselves? Just with the width and height, not the actual filesize. -------------------- Austrian Alex - Reality Corp. Posts: 1307 \| Registered: Tuesday, May 7 2002 07:00
Cavanoskus Warrior Member # 4414	written Sunday, December 12 2004 08:44 Profile Homepage #5 Sometimes, avatars are neat. But more often, they're horribly annoying, because they just serve as another way for board members to try to prove how much more awesomely cool they are than other board members. We have enough of a venue for arrogance already. -------------------- AIM/Yahoo IM: Cavanoskus Scary artwork and Bad Poetry The Wildlife Research Team SnakeNetMetalRadio "We, who are about to die, salute you." Posts: 86 \| Registered: Friday, May 21 2004 07:00
Arancaytar Law Bringer Member # 2984	written Sunday, December 12 2004 09:50 Profile Homepage #6 quote: Originally written by RC: quote: Originally written by The fire upon her carcanet: Can they control the filesize if they don't host it themselves? Just with the width and height, not the actual filesize. That's the problem: No matter what the width and height in the html is; the loading time is the same. So if I link to a picture that is 1000 * 1000 big and about 500 k, then it will display as a small, neat square of 6060 - but the load will still last just as long. -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752* \| Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Sunday, December 12 2004 10:33 Profile Homepage #7 RC and Aran- You're both wrong. Avatars only cost SW traffic if they choose to upload them, in which case they can merely restrict avatars to outside sources- and considering how easy it is to get a Photobucket account, this wouldn't be too tough. Also, you can limit file sizes. Maybe not on UBB, but UBB ain't the greatest choice for a board anyway. -------------------- 人たちを燃えるために俺はかれらに火を上げるから死んだ Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Wise Man Master Member # 1046	written Sunday, December 12 2004 10:36 Profile Homepage #8 i'm guessing there isn't much of a way on UBB to limit avatar sizes... remember lost_king's avatar? it was close to 800x600 (!!!!!), IIRC. -------------------- Polaris - Weather balloons, ninjas, and your big daddy Wise Man. What more could you want? Undead Theories - Don't Ask, Don't Tell Posts: 3323 \| Registered: Thursday, April 25 2002 07:00
EDWARD, HAMMER OF THE SCOTS Warrior Member # 5091	written Sunday, December 12 2004 11:27 Profile #9 I don't believe UBB supports much in terms of avatar control. This is because it sucks. Invision (which sucks in other, different ways) allows individual users to disable viewing avatars. In addition, it actually enforces maximum pixel size, instead of just using HTML scaling. Reasonably sized avatars don't burden even dialup connections. My magic avatar averages about 3KB (that's 64x64, PNG). With pages of 25 posts, making the wild assumption that that's 25 different users with 25 avatars... you're talking 75KB. To give you a sense of scale here, this medium-length post, including HTML, is more than 3.5KB. That's not including posticons, etc. This page, with only 9 posts of short length, is 56KB -- again, not including any images. Thus, at worst, avatars would increase the size of a page by 50% or so. In practice, it'd be much smaller. The main load-time issue is slow remote servers, but a good browser won't stop the page from loading while loading an image. Of course, once those avatars are downloaded, they can be cached. Thus, further posts by those users cost no additional network traffic for avatars. [ Sunday, December 12, 2004 11:34: Message edited by: The Dog And Pony Show ] Posts: 180 \| Registered: Friday, October 15 2004 07:00
Can-ned Food Apprentice Member # 5267	written Friday, December 17 2004 04:12 Profile #10 Avatars are just as bad as signatures. Posts: 10 \| Registered: Tuesday, December 7 2004 08:00
Albus Dumbledore Warrior Member # 3870	written Friday, December 17 2004 04:23 Profile Homepage #11 Hit the nail on the head. Neither is bad, as long as they're kept nice and small. -------------------- "Toleration is not the opposite of intoleration, but is the counterfeit of it. Both are despotisms. The one assumes to itself the right of withholding liberty of conscience, and the other of granting it." ---Thomas Paine Posts: 156 \| Registered: Thursday, January 8 2004 08:00
Nikki. Shaper Member # 3442	written Friday, December 17 2004 04:27 Profile Homepage #12 quote: Originally written by Can-ned Food: Avatars are just as bad as signatures. But without them how would be witty? And, more importantly, what on Earth would distinguish Alorael from the rest of us commoners? Apart from his sparkling wit, love of skribbane and sniper rifles? -------------------- "I am a living sign..." Thus endeth this post. Posts: 2864 \| Registered: Monday, September 8 2003 07:00
Or else o'erleap. Law Bringer Member # 335	written Friday, December 17 2004 11:36 Profile Homepage #13 I would still have a signature without signatures built in and the rest of you would not. A signature has to reach obscene proportions before it actually causes loading problems. It becomes an unbearable hassle and eyesore long before that point. Avatars, on the other hand, become eyesores at around the same size as they become loading sores. —Alorael, who believes that characteristics two and three are in direct opposition to characteristic one in most opinions. Posts: 14579 \| Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Can-ned Food Apprentice Member # 5267	written Friday, December 17 2004 12:29 Profile #14 I was being too mean in my post -- of course, I wanted to. I meant that, usually, both signatures and avatars are abused (especially signatures, but not really on this board) and so I view them poorly -- or is it poorly view them? ;-) I do capture quite a lot of quotes & stuff from signatures though, and I sometimes actually download avatars. -Increasing post count with a touch of quality! Posts: 10 \| Registered: Tuesday, December 7 2004 08:00
Arancaytar Law Bringer Member # 2984	written Friday, December 17 2004 13:23 Profile Homepage #15 On a semi-related note, signatures are also great for self-plugging. I thought no one ever clicked on links in a sig, but they do, actually. On the Encyclopedia, out of ten visitors about 2 come from Google, 3 come from Drakey's Demesne and 5 come from the forum... -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 \| Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00
dampeoples Shock Trooper Member # 3719	written Friday, December 17 2004 16:13 Profile Homepage #16 Yes, signatures are very excellent for the self-plug, I get a fair amount from all the boards i visit :) -------------------- Scandalous Stories, fishing,and great photos Posts: 294 \| Registered: Monday, November 24 2003 08:00
loserclassof06 Warrior Member # 3159	written Saturday, December 18 2004 01:04 Profile Homepage #17 EDIT: Sorry for the double-post, I hit stop because it wasn't loading and changed the text a bit [ Saturday, December 18, 2004 01:07: Message edited by: loserclassof06 ] Posts: 111 \| Registered: Monday, June 30 2003 07:00
loserclassof06 Warrior Member # 3159	written Saturday, December 18 2004 01:06 Profile Homepage #18 Well if nobody is really too attached too their post count or member number, they could just wipe the forums and go to phBB... phBB has options to limit both avatar dimensions and size. Posts: 111 \| Registered: Monday, June 30 2003 07:00
Rupert Agent Member # 618	written Saturday, December 18 2004 03:12 Profile Homepage #19 Actually, I'd just like to pick up on Aran's first post. The SR fora allow avatars, on the condition that they do not stretch the text box unreasonably. They average a good four times the amount of posts that these fora make in a busy season. There's nothing wrong with ava's, just as long as they are either moderated or are controlled to prevent certain... incidents. -------------------- Aut Tace Aut Loquere Meliora Silencio Posts: 1487 \| Registered: Sunday, February 10 2002 08:00
qwd BANNED Member # 3121	written Saturday, December 18 2004 07:19 Profile Homepage #20 You mean I shouldn't be able to have an avatar with Yam Sthruss in it? :( [ Saturday, December 18, 2004 07:20: Message edited by: qwd ] -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 761 \| Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
The Almighty Doer of Stuff Shaper Member # 73	written Saturday, December 18 2004 07:34 Profile #21 Or five pagefuls of horse sex merged into one image? -------------------- The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) Famous Last Words - A local pop-punk band They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 \| Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00
Arancaytar Law Bringer Member # 2984	written Saturday, December 18 2004 12:56 Profile Homepage #22 quote: Originally written by qwd: You mean I shouldn't be able to have an avatar with Yam Sthruss in it? :( Not unless fully clothed and photographed from the front. We've got children here. :rolleyes: -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 \| Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00
qwd BANNED Member # 3121	written Sunday, December 19 2004 01:45 Profile Homepage #23 [Link removed. Shall we read the CoC again?] So, in your opinion, Yam wouldn't be BAD STUFF if photographed from the front.[/URL] ^^ [Please note, this link leads to a white, blank page, with another link on it. Someone follows these two links and comes back whining? They knew what they were going to see.] [ Sunday, December 19, 2004 09:12: Message edited by: Brief ] -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 761 \| Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
Arancaytar Law Bringer Member # 2984	written Sunday, December 19 2004 08:14 Profile Homepage #24 That doesn't exactly qualify as 'fully clothed'. :P -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 \| Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00