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Article - Rollick in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Excellent and unbiased article. Congrats.

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Article - Rollick in Blades of Avernum
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Excellent and unbiased article. Congrats.

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Archmage Ascension progress in Blades of Avernum Editor
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You could always have a bunch of artificial level boosters.

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Archmage Ascension progress in Blades of Avernum
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You could always have a bunch of artificial level boosters.

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Article - bjlhct2 On Scenario Design pt 1: Linearity in Blades of Avernum
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Ultimately the choice is left to the designer and the player on linearity. Both can be successful if carried out well.

I totally disagree with the sentiment that linear scenarios are a product of youthfulness. I know as I have gotten older and more experienced, my stories have tended toward more character development which can only be effectively carried out in a somewhat linear environment.

There are definitely parts of the community that like a strong story based scenario with a linear structure. Often the two go hand in hand because a too sparse scenario cannot develop a coherent plot well enough to sustain the storyline.

Personally, I like writing scenarios with a stronger storyline and a linear flow as it makes me more excited to complete such scenarios. Often, however, I will put in distractions from the main plotline to give the player a little choice in the matter.

As far as the article, it probably should be modified to reflect the overall tastes of the community. What is the best type of scenario? The answer is there is none just as there is no best genre of music or literature. Some people feel scenarios should be traditional RPGs, others feel they should achieve more of a literary aspect. There is no right or wrong answer in this debate. All we can do is respect each others feelings on this matter.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
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Time is a relative thing. To you, a couple months may be an eternity, to others it may be but a moment.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
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Time is a relative thing. To you, a couple months may be an eternity, to others it may be but a moment.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge 2
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Time is a relative thing. To you, a couple months may be an eternity, to others it may be but a moment.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Illegal distribution on the BoAC in Blades of Avernum
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I am glad to see a fair resolution to the issue. Overwhelmings rights to post links and edit his profile are restored. Sorry I didn't get to it a little earlier, but my weekends are busy.

A few points of clarification on my part:

1) There are many times being a Board Admin I am forced to make judgment calls. Since it is impossible to create an all inclusive governing set of rules for these boards, I am often forced to make decisions that go beyond the scope of the CoC.

2) The issue at heart here was posting links from the official forums to illegally posted material. It has been routine to not allow links to such material and I have removed or edited them in the past. Unfortunately, in this case, I had to edit a signature, which I do not like to do.

3) I determined that most likely the material in question was illegally posted and took the route I felt to be right in removing the link from Overwhelming's signature. This would also ensure that a compromise is reached in a timely manner.

4) As far as Jeff doing this sort of community message board stuff, it would be nice, but he hardly has the time for it. Regrettably, the responsibility of running the boards and ensuring the content is legitimate falls to the moderator and admin staff.

Anyway, that is all I have to say. Let's put this all behind us.

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im nuts in Tech Support
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Um, yeah, I'd move this, but there really is no point.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Illegal distribution on the BoAC in Blades of Avernum
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Posting to illegal material is against the Code of Conduct for these boards. He can make all the sites he wants, but cannot advertise here.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
senarios in Blades of Avernum Editor
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pointless

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
senarios in Blades of Avernum
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pointless

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Illegal distribution on the BoAC in Blades of Avernum
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Profile #38
I remain unconvinced that you are legally in the right. In fact, everyone I talk to says otherwise. Here are the two conditions:

1) I need to hear from someone unbiased that what you are doing is legal.

AND

2) Full texts of the PMs, so I can understand all motivations of the parties involved, are posted publically.

This way I can make an informed judgment. Your actions must be both legal and not mean spirited.

Also, I was not comparing you to the American Nazi party, using it as an example. Identify the difference.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Illegal distribution on the BoAC in Blades of Avernum
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I requested ALL information be displayed publically. What I need are unedited full texts of PMs received and sent. You have not yet answered all parts of the inquiry so I cannot make a fair judgment. Until the request is met, since you called me on making decisions without the full story, I will not even consider any petition for restoration of full membership privledges.

The point for me is a common decency one. You may or may not be guilty of a crime, per se, we could ask the legal guru Alcritas about it, but nonetheless, that is not the point.

This is an issue the Code of Conduct was not designed to resolve, but still, many of us feel that what you are doing should not be supported by the Spiderweb boards. The rights of its customers who use their products should be protected as well. Their scenarios are partial property of Spiderweb Software and the author and hence SW has the total right to keep and distribute them at will. You do not have such permissions as far as I am aware.

On my end, I am trying to protect the rights of Spiderweb Software customers from having their works redistributed without their consent. The best way to accomplish this in a timely manner, in my mind, is a temporary freeze on linking to your site until the issue is completely resolved.

I admit as a designer, I am sympathetic to other designers. Creating a scenario takes a lot of work that non-designers really cannot appreciate fully. Our scenarios can be like children to us as they are vessels of our ideas, sweat, time, and hard work. I can understand the desire of designers to restrict flow of their scenarios to unofficial vendors such as yourself. Personally, I believe it is a designers right. On the extreme, I would not want the American Nazi Party, a group I highly disagree with, to distribute my scenario. I will, however, ask for clarification on this issue.

I have offered a very easy way out of this for you that everyone finds acceptable. I will restate it now: remove the actual content and replace it with link directly to the items in question. This will ensure that the BoAC provides its service of getting players to information while preserving the rights of designers to have intellectual control over their creative works.

I want this issue to be resolved as soon as possible and have everything be restored. I urge you to accept the compromise as it will save a lot of headaches.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Illegal distribution on the BoAC in Blades of Avernum
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Profile #26
Overwhelming -- Do you think it would be possible to simply place links directly to the content rather than the content itself on the BoAC?

I believe this will be an acceptable compromise.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Illegal distribution on the BoAC in Blades of Avernum
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I will state for the record that I trust Kelandon. He is a good member of the community, I've known him through the community, respect him, and trust him. If he brings up accusations, I have no reason to doubt him unless I see otherwise. You have not, still, provided me evidence to doubt his claims.

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Originally written by Overwhelming:


2. The reasons he claimed were not the ones described in his post. If he had given me that motive, I would probably take it off. The reasons he gave me were insultive and envious. Somewhat childish, I should say.

3. The only truth in the post: I refused. For many reasons I didn't and I don't bother to explain why. He knows.

[4c.] But it's for the other reasons you don't know. ;) But i'll take them off if asked again in this thread, by the author.

[5]I've asked permission to host all files in the BoAC site to the respectives authors, including Kelandon.

6. There are other false claims that I won't address, because I won't bother about it.

7. You should know both side's stories and reasons before making your judgement.

What were the reasons in [2]? Get them out in the open please. Your response in [3] is just plain arrogant and conceited. "I know, but I'm not telling, but how dare you make a decision without knowing all the facts!?"

That's great you quote things and are using the letter of the law to defend your mean spirited and malicious behavior. You continue with your pompous comments in [4c] by being even more insulting with a little smiley. Your mock about "I'm not telling you" is VERY rude and disrespectful.

Your claim in [5]. I don't know you, I don't trust you. Where is your e-mail/other electronic communication evidence to the contrary?

To [6], same as above: Quit being secretive and tell us. As far as [7], I would, but you seem to be more eager to make a lot of noise and hope I do not notice there is no substantial information to support your claims in your post.

Until I see evidence to the contrary, my ruling stands. Comply with the request. It is a very simple thing that any reasonable and kind person with a crumb of decency would do.

[ Sunday, February 13, 2005 16:02: Message edited by: *i ]

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Complete the Wallset Project in Blades of Avernum
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Luz, I take it I have permission to enter your wallsets in the competition?

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Complete the Wallset Rules (Tentative) in Blades of Avernum
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I take it there are no challenges to the rules. If none are posted within the next day or so, I will formally announce the contest.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Illegal distribution on the BoAC in Blades of Avernum
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Kel -- If you are interested in pursuing action, let me know by PM or AIM. If so, copy down the links, tell me, and I will have them deleted.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
BoA Wishlist- What Happened? in Blades of Avernum
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He is busy with GF3 now. We should definitely remind him once it is released for Windows.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Illegal distribution on the BoAC in Blades of Avernum
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Overwhelming: please comply with Kelandon's request. Until you do, no advertising of the Blades of Avernum center (links, endorsements, or otherwise) will be permitted on these boards. If you do post a link to illegal material (e.g. the Blades of Avernum Center), your account will be suspended until said material is removed.

Also, I will restore rights to edit your profile once the illegal material has been removed. Just reply or PM me personally.

[ Tuesday, February 08, 2005 14:18: Message edited by: *i ]

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Avernum 4 wish list. in General
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This topic is old...let it die.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
History of the community in General
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I'm not sure how much the community can do to get new people to create scenarios with BoA. The learning curve is quite steep and we can help people with that. However, designing scenarios is an effort of sheer determination. There is not much we can do for that until testing.

There were many scenarios that were released in BoE that were old style and not all that great, but they were of adequate quality and earned relative praise. Of course the standards go up with subsequent scenarios, but as long as they meet the minimum bar of requirement, we are pretty receptive. I do not hesitate to tell people what they are doing right, nor do I hesitate to tell them what they are doing wrong.

Undead Valley, when described as a cheap kill Rentar-Ihrno flick full of overpowered loot definitely drew criticism. Had it not been for the "kill Rentar-Ihrno" part, I would not have had much in the way of major criticism for it. Something like that is quite crude and the community should discourage that aspect.

Unfortunately, the community leadership is partly made up by professionals with other lives to live. We try to give the resources we can, but we are limited as to what charitable causes we can give. So to better help us focus our energies, I pose a question:

What action should the community take to assist in bring in new designers?

Saying not to be critical is not an acceptable response to this. Criticism is a central role in which good pieces of work are produced. What is a concrete action, not inaction, that can be taken?

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Complete the Wallset Project in Blades of Avernum
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Mab is a she actually, but yeah, they are beautiful.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00

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