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SYNERGY LIST: GF4?Where To Find Stuff And What It Does in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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You can also purchase a Reaper Baton if you are pro-Shaper in the Servile town whose name escapes me in the Grayghost Mountains. There is also some cake available from the merchant in the Western Rise.

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Servile Tech. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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You need some mechanics skill in addition to the Techs for your skill to be high enough. Basically, each one boosts your effective mechanics skill. When you click on a mine, if yours + your servile techs is high enough, you will disarm it.

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Well, finally! in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Welcome back. I think you will find the game well worth the wait (granted, the release is not too slow, it's only 1 year after A4 was released).

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Jonathan Pollard's 22nd year of incarceration in General
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What it comes down to is that he, acting on his own, does not have the right or authority to make those decisions. He may feel Israel had a right to know, but others who viewed those documents may have disagreed -- again, we don't know, none of us have actually seen the documents in question. Additionally, he was an Israeli spy and could hardly be considered an objective arbiter on the matter. Quite plainly, this was not his determination to make and is a crime, period.

On face the punishment may seem harsh looking at the precidents. Personally, I feel those precidents were a bit too lenient. Granted many of the details behind these cases remain classified due to the nature of the crime so it's very difficult to give a fully objective analysis.

Alorael: Unfortunately, we do not know the full scope of the harm done. The general policy regarding classified information is "no comment". Often in these matters a lot more happens than what can be told. I guess that's the problem with us arguing this whole issue: none of us really know the full truth because we cannot know the full truth because we don't need to know the full truth.

[ Thursday, November 23, 2006 19:58: Message edited by: *i ]

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Shaper Camp in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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At this point if you have not been to the camp, it's a bit too late to go back. Do the missions for Alwan here and in the region to the north and the Shapers will take you in.

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Southforge Item Stealing in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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More specifically, follow him around a bit and find a storeroom where he spends part of his time. Hide in the corner of the room away from his stash and he'll reveal it to you.

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Happy Thanksgiving Day in General
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There's always the named celebration and then there's the actual first occurrence before the tradition. Either way, it's a trivial detail.

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Jonathan Pollard's 22nd year of incarceration in General
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Eh, whatever. It's irrelevant either way. I'd say as long as it's reasonable it's okay. In this case, the two posts were short enough that they could have been combined with no confusion. Generally the edit feature is preferred rather than spreading out to numbers of smaller posts.

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Happy Thanksgiving Day in General
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Must be a revisionist historian. :P

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Shaper Camp in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Throughout the game, you are considered a spy for the Shapers. As such, the large number of soldiers will not know you are indeed working for them. However, a few key people will help you.

Go into the camp just a little bit to where it says that if you go further you will be seen. Turn back and as you leave the leader of the Shaper camp will appear to speak with you.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Jonathan Pollard's 22nd year of incarceration in General
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Also, I was under the impression that it was understood that when responding to two seperate posts, especially in a debate, double posting is allowed. Obviously this doesn't apply to some, like Tully or I. You know, the kind that disagrees with your point of view.
No, you use the same post and just clearly separate the two arguments. Whenever I see a double post (I know I miss some) I try to remind people to use the edit feature. Yours was not abusive, that's why I was quite polite in asking you not to do it.

[ Thursday, November 23, 2006 09:21: Message edited by: *i ]

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Jonathan Pollard's 22nd year of incarceration in General
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Except that the documents that he took legally belonged to Israel. Whether or not there was anything really, really bad in there, it was not America's to withhold. Stealing something you own from a thief is hardly a life sentance crime. In fact, I'd be extremely surprised if someone that did that got any more than a few months.
You really do have an oversimplified view of the matter. Pollard was likely doing a lot more than you claim. As to exactly what, it's unlikely we will ever know.

If you read the open literature on the matter, you can see that he likely gave other things to Israel (despite his claims to the contrary) that they did not need to have. This information was likely sold by Israel to other nations causing serious harm to the United States defense and intelligence capabilities.

Point is, he was a spy. Even if he felt that Israel should have these documents, that is not his decision alone to make. As for questions of legality, I think this is a lot more complicated than that. The US is required to share information regarding Israel's defense so long as it is not contrary to US security interests. A sovereign country always has the right to protect its own security regardless of other agreements.

Also: please do not double post.

[ Thursday, November 23, 2006 08:12: Message edited by: *i ]

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Jonathan Pollard's 22nd year of incarceration in General
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Passing on classified information to any other country is an extremely serious offense, the statement makes it sound like stealing bubble gum. It does not matter what he "felt" was right, that is not his decision to make. Neither one of us knows what was actually in the documents passed, for all we know there could have been a lot of things that were really, really bad included in there.

As a part of inaccuracy, many (if not all) of the people mentioned that were convicted were not tried nor convicted of treason, but with espionage.

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Haakaa p??lle! in General
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As far as I'm concerned, the CoC is there to provide a general list of guidelines. I could revise it to make it a bit more "applicable" to take into account the things that have happened since it was written. However, to be honest, I have far better things to do.

So long as we have a good, cohesive community where people feel welcome and have fun on these boards, I'm content with leaving things be. If their are specific complaints where people are not sharing this, it's not good for business and must be dealt with. Keep in mind at the end of the day, the decisions get made on a "what's good for business" basis. It's impossible to please everyone or police everything, but for now the community is pretty healthy.

Inevitably with a new game, we'll get a bunch of idiots. Most of them will leave on their own accord. Those that don't will either shape up or be shipped out.

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In need of a Ban in General
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Anyways, I have the bot well in hand. No need to remind me, I check the list of newly registered members every day or so. This topic has outlived its purpose.

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Don't Forget... in Blades of Avernum Editor
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...to register your scenario for the contest. The deadline is the end of the month.

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In need of a Ban in General
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I would delete accounts, but generally do not trust UBB enough to do it.

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In need of a Ban in General
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Actually the ever vigilant *i has already banned this character long before this post has been made. Don't worry, this bot shows up about once every other day on average and I'm on it.

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Contest Judging Registration in Blades of Avernum
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I would say scenarios, definitely. When everything is in, I'll look at things and decide how to break up judging. I may have judges do some in each category if necessary.

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Contest Judging Registration in Blades of Avernum
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It's about that time. If you want to judge, please reply to this e-mail. Include your name and whether you have access to Blades of Exile, Blades of Avernum, or both.

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