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Favorite Creation? in Geneforge Series
Guardian
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Profile #19
Hey, that's Nalyd's Ep4 celebration picture. Hands off. :P

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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Guardian
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Profile #52
Starving the Drakons out might not be such a good strategy either; Shaping more or less gives an unlimited supply of free food. Nalyd doubts that the Drakons use farms anyways, seeing as they're probably pure carnivores. Shape a boatload of Ornks every week and you're good. If you can't Shape Ornks, pretty much anything will do. Fyoras, Thahds. . . Not as efficient, but it should do.

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.

Indeed, mortals, we envy you.
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OOC: The Vale RP - II in General
Guardian
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Profile #115
Cally seems to be rather timid, when it comes to words.

Try reading the book that is Nalyd's PDN. :P

[ Thursday, February 14, 2008 18:24: Message edited by: Khai of Khem ]

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OOC: The Vale RP - II in General
Guardian
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Profile #113
Hrrm? Oh, you correlate cussing with a high emotional state. Nalyd does not. Cussing is an everyday and perfectly calm occurrence. The onlyt reason the boards don't get as much is that it tends to lose the effect in typing.

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Getting political in General
Guardian
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Profile #102
Nalyd wouldn't mind a test to determine your voting ability.

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Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #45
The areas of Drakon concentration are fortresses, Goldy, and while a siege might starve them out, the Drakons definitely have a man-to-man advantage. They are equal or only slightly less in numbers than the other Rebels, and they can Shape as well. There are a few mighty beings on the Eastern Rebels' side that can kill Drakons, but the average foot soldier doesn't stand a chance. And the average foot soldier for the Drakons is a Drakon. Or at least another high-level creation, a War Trall or Rotghroth.

Repeated barrages of creations won't work, as Drakons can Shape as well, and all that would be accomplished would be a repeat of the Fens, with nothing but creations dying until either side makes a move.

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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Guardian
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Profile #42
You forget, the Drakons are more or less focused in a particular area. If they were spread out, with other Rebels interspersed with them, the Rebelling Rebels might win. If the Unbound are created, all is more or less lost, as they apparently spread over most, if not all of the land outside of direct Drakon control.

Mighty Lifecrafters can kill Drakons, yes. But Drakons can also kill Lifecrafters. And the Drakons have the advantage of number by far, even if the canister-mad Lifecrafters don't side with them. The Human, Drayk, and Servile Rebellion doesn't stand a chance against or without the Drakons, plain and simple.

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Indeed, mortals, we envy you.
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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Guardian
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Profile #40
Freedom does not equal democracy at all- Anarchy is freedom, while democracy is domination by the majority.

The racial labeling practiced by the Shapers is justified in this case, because there are actual inherent differences between the races. Don't mistake this as human vs. human racism, where only superficial differences apply. The Serviles, while similar, are naturally more complacent, less intelligent, etc. The Rebel Serviles are usually almost analogous to humans, but those still under Shaper servitude are a different story.

The Drakons, while at least as intelligent as humans, are naturally more violent, capricious, greedy, etcetera. Gazers are a more alien mind, and receive too little face time for us to make accurate assessments.

While Nalyd would promote a harmony for all of the intelligent creations and humans(Arguably also intelligent creations, see The G1 Secret), there is little chance for one resulting from this war. If the Shapers win, it will be harsher Shaper rule. If the Rebels win, it will be harsher Drakon dictatorship.

Having Shaping and fighting those without Shaping more or less guarantees a victory.

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.

Indeed, mortals, we envy you.
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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Guardian
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Profile #34
If everyone was equal, how would you decide who does menial labor? Or who governs? Or who is inferior? Complete equality is not a desirable thing; there must be levels and clear divisions. The Shapers, while not promoting civilian liberty, certainly aren't Orwellian in their oppression. Where did this idea of the Rebels being Democratic come from? They seem to be dictatorial or oligarchic. Great loss does not guarantee great change.

Would you like for every little being, every beast of burden and pest to be as intelligent as you? No. No you would not.

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.

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Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Guardian
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Profile #31
And how many Drakons are in the game? They're obviously the dominant force of the Rebellion, and the strongest. The Rebels wouldn't stand a chance without the Drakons, but they sacrifice the lives of innocents to do so. Likewise with the canisters; the Rebellion doesn't stand a chance without them, they allow the almost spontaneous creation of Lifecrafters, to make up for the superior numbers and slower training times of the Shapers. They gain power and survival, but at the cost of their cause. Even Greta is willing to unleash the Unbound on Terrestria, more or less the equivalent of slaughtering them all and sowing the lands with salt.

Shaper cruelty? They are not nice, certainly, but their laws expressly forbid cruelty. You speak of the genocide? The Drayks could have become a threat, so they were killed, mostly humanely and with respect. Some were allowed to survive afterwards, like the Drayks encountered on Sucia Island, at least one of whom is quite accepting of their fate.

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.

Indeed, mortals, we envy you.
Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Guardian
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Profile #29
Nalyd's ideal outcome would be a rift between the moderate Shapers and the more severe and idealistic Shapers. While the Rebels focus on the more Shaper-like Shapers, the moderates leave both sides quietly alone, building their strength to crush the victor. There are several rather severe flaws, but the basic structure is what Nalyd would prefer.

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.

Indeed, mortals, we envy you.
Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #24
quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

That's all true, except ... except ...

The appealingly reasonable moderate Shapers are a nice coat of paint on the bars of a cage. The cage won't break without violence. How many centuries of slavery does it take to outweigh a year of war?

True, but the Shapers have been showing an increasingly moderate trend.

Also, one thing that is increasingly forgotten: With a few very rare exceptions, like serviles, Servant Minds, or Drayks, the creations are little more than animals, bred specifically to serve, and enjoy it.

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.

Indeed, mortals, we envy you.
Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
The Handy Abominable Photo Thread in General
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #59
That's not the point. Read the first post.

Iffy, you have been replaced. Rejoice.

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Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
OOC: The Vale RP - II in General
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #109
Nalyd changed it so that Nalyd's post was only another mind-bending torture of Munigant's, because Jeran's post doesn't allow it to be true. Yours assumes the unedited version was true. Merh.

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Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
OOC: The Vale RP - II in General
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #107
Rereading the farewell posts, Tully's post and Nalyd's post, edited for Jeran's benefit, contradict each other. Let's see if Nalyd can dance around you two. :mad:

EDIT: On second thought, Nalyd posted first. **** you.

[ Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:30: Message edited by: Agrajag ]

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.
Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #12
Nuclear weapons wasn't the best comparison, but it wasn't the worst, either.

And nuclear weapon-imposed peace works the following way: Don't attack, because they might use them.

Not the best peacekeeping method, certainly, because eventually someone will use them.

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.

Indeed, mortals, we envy you.
Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #683
Nalyd's character in Episode 3 made him cry tears of joy :D . In Ep4, not so much, but he still "drifted" (Glee! :D ) and had bone daggers (Glee! :D ). However, like so many semi-villains, he was downplayed and beaten by a mage in melee. Pitiful. Ep3 was teh awesome. :D

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What have you been reading recently? in General
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #5
The Dune prequels, and after those, the sequels.

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.

Indeed, mortals, we envy you.
Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #7
Must. . . resist. . . urge. . . to make a debate. . .

Shapers. The Rebels are far too desperate and uncaring for civilian lives. Not to mention that their leaders are inherently violent, careening down a path to total insanity, squabbling, and in G4, bureaucratic.

The Trakovites are the kind of people that want to destroy all nuclear weapons, not realizing that that is all that keeps the peace.

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.

Indeed, mortals, we envy you.
Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
Getting political in General
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #70
The Chinese are planning something big. They've been too quiet lately.

*Shifty eyes*

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Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
OOC: The Vale RP - II in General
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #103
quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Or if there is an Ahonar, he can have a roll similar to Gharzad's in Avernum 4.
Note the lack of an edit. Feelin' a bit salty, Jeran?

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Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
OOC: The Vale RP - II in General
Guardian
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Profile #99
Blame Gold***. :P

[ Sunday, February 10, 2008 19:29: Message edited by: Agrajag ]

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.
Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #669
It's time to restart the time honored tradition, and reassert Nalyd's noobishness and undesirability as a forum member.

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

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Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows.
Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
OOC: The Vale RP - II in General
Guardian
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Profile #96
Speaking of your signature, "unsellable" is misspelled.

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Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
Favorite Creation? in Geneforge Series
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #7
Nalyd is currently having a love affair with Rodhizons. Don't worry, Vlishes, it'll wear off.

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