Fantastical Thoughts On RPG Game Mechanics
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, November 6 2007 23:45
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quote:I'd rather play GURPS for tactical combat. Thanks for the suggestion, though. Posts: 8 | Registered: Sunday, October 7 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 03:06
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Another idea I just came up with is a Physics engine, combined with pauses to represent rounds/turns in combat to allow many choices in the way you fight. Do you kick the Monster in the head, while trying to elbow the other guy behind you? Don't think its possible? have a look at Tori bash and HL2. Also, additionally, I wish to remind everyone what an RPG is: Role Playing Game. Half Life could be an RPG, as you are PLAYING, the ROLE, of Gordon Freeman, in a Game. There for, any game where you play as a character, is a RPG. is there a game where you DO NOT play the role of some one? Look at the mindless game Tetras. -------------------- Put your heart into all you do, even when it seems your are diving head first to your demise, for your heart knows the right path to a true victory! Posts: 67 | Registered: Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 03:14
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Crash Bandicoot games are role-playing..Super Mario games are role-playing..heck..even Katamari Damaci is role-playing..if that's what you meant by role-playing.. -------------------- Humans fight to enter insanity. You ain't evil until you hear this! Posts: 732 | Registered: Saturday, June 24 2006 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 03:27
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You are not the first person to make this point, and you will not be the last. The reason the "hurr i am PLAYING a ROLE so it must be a ROLE PLAYING GAME" definition isn't widely used is that it's a pretty vacuous definition, and of little practical value in distinguishing genres. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 03:32
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In all fairness, RPG is an absolutely terrible term to describe a game. "Fantasy Combat Simulator" or something similar would be a good deal more accurate. Posts: 70 | Registered: Sunday, December 19 2004 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 03:39
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quote:Harvest Moon.. -------------------- Humans fight to enter insanity. You ain't evil until you hear this! Posts: 732 | Registered: Saturday, June 24 2006 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 03:48
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quote:Well, this is true enough: "RPG" originally meant "D&D-inspired dungeon crawl" and is now basically just a marketing term. Your suggestion isn't really an improvement, though, since it's still misleading (what about RPGs in non-fantasy settings?) and doesn't say anything about the game mechanics (a first-person shooter is a "combat simulator" too). Djur has suggested "turn-based tactical character development games", which would probably include RPGs and most SRPGs. quote:I usually hear Harvest Moon referred to as a simulation game rather than an RPG, although admittedly "simulation" is just as meaningless a descriptor. [ Wednesday, November 07, 2007 03:49: Message edited by: Thuryl ] -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 03:59
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At least you're playing the role of a guy striving to make a life..oh wait..define role-playing again.. -------------------- Humans fight to enter insanity. You ain't evil until you hear this! Posts: 732 | Registered: Saturday, June 24 2006 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 05:10
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3rd person combat simulator That makes a good description. -------------------- You must show me respect becouse...never mind why but do respect me! All hail me, your...something. Don't contradict me or I'l...GUARDS! Posts: 263 | Registered: Sunday, September 9 2007 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 06:38
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What about Europa Universalis? Okay, that's a war simulator. But X-COM? Other tactical games? They're third persona and they simulate battles, but they're definitely not RPGs. The Dungeon Master games and many others are first person but still RPGs. Planescape: Torment is, or can be, mostly non-combat. Fallout is sci-fi, not fantasy; Earthbound is still fantastical, but it's set in a modern world (sort of) and isn't at all high fantasy. —Alorael, who has come to terms with the fact that the words "role playing game" are poor descriptors of the genre. Coming up with a better blanket term is hard, though, and everyone knows what you mean when you say RPG. It works well enough. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 07:24
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What ever.... Well, my earlier idea (shock points etc) was for a stand alone game idea based off of a engine similar to BoA. only problem is I cant program... :( I have this idea you see. I think its a great idea, and although its not the fantasy stuff that you are all familiar with, it would make a good Multiplayer or mini game. Its an Armed Defenders Tactical Combat Simulation game with a few RPG elements. Its based more around the Devastation of gun fire, and the use of cover and what ever one can use to prevent there Team from getting slaughtered as they try to under go missions. One thing is, the game is played entirely in a combat mode system similar to Avernum's combat system. The game is more oriented on sneaking up on your foe and cutting his throat or using flash bombs on a room to knock everyone out. Rather than the system of Creating characters, I have this idea, you hire randomly created and skilled characters. as you play though the game, you loose people so you have to replace them (no Load save stuff) If you loose all your men, you have to hire a new team. I really think some one should try to create the game, even as a Freeware game. -------------------- Put your heart into all you do, even when it seems your are diving head first to your demise, for your heart knows the right path to a true victory! Posts: 67 | Registered: Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 07:31
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quote:Ever played Jagged Alliance? Posts: 24 | Registered: Thursday, September 6 2007 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 09:25
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No... is it any good? Can it run on Macs and is there a Demo i can Sample? -------------------- Put your heart into all you do, even when it seems your are diving head first to your demise, for your heart knows the right path to a true victory! Posts: 67 | Registered: Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 14:15
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Well, Jagged Alliance is a classic and has all the gameplay elements that you've mentioned. No, there is no mac version, but if you have bootcamp or any software to emulate a PC with, you can easily run them on emulated Winblows. I think it's worth the hassle. I've no idea if there is a demo. If you're interested in trying it out, I'd suggest starting with Jagged Alliance 2, as the first part has DOS graphics that are a bit too much for a modern gamer to take. [ Wednesday, November 07, 2007 14:20: Message edited by: kkarski ] Posts: 24 | Registered: Thursday, September 6 2007 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 21:09
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My comp is out of date. There for, if it runs on Winblows its not worth playing, end of story... -------------------- Put your heart into all you do, even when it seems your are diving head first to your demise, for your heart knows the right path to a true victory! Posts: 67 | Registered: Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, November 7 2007 21:28
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The early installments in the series run on DOS, which means you can run it either directly or with DOSBox pretty much regardless of how old your computer is. —Alorael, who hasn't played any of the games himself. Maybe he should get around to that one day. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, November 8 2007 14:49
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quote:... quite a mouthful when you abbreviate it, but it would sound cool when backed by the "Anvil Chorus" from Il Trovatore. :D I call 'em Mapquest games. Worst name of all, most likely. Posts: 13 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2007 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, November 8 2007 22:20
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that actually sounds cool... Map Quest! An adventure game where you go on a Quest, over a **** load of maps! -------------------- Put your heart into all you do, even when it seems your are diving head first to your demise, for your heart knows the right path to a true victory! Posts: 67 | Registered: Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:00 |