comparing plots (from the demos)

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AuthorTopic: comparing plots (from the demos)
Leonor
Apprentice
Member # 4708
 written Saturday, July 30 2005 08:24 Profile #0
I'm playing the Geneforge 3 demo and enjoying it greatly. But so far it seems the game will force to join either the rebels or the shapers, or am I wrong? I thought the perspective in the first game was better, with the threee servile groups (even if I only played the demo).

Without giving away spoilers, which one from the series has a better plot and more moral options in your opinion?
Posts: 16 | Registered: Wednesday, July 14 2004 07:00
Icshi
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
 written Saturday, July 30 2005 10:42 Profile #1
The choice between only two sects, and being forced to join one or another, has its advantages and its drawbacks. Multiple sects and indecision helped enrich the plot of the first two games, while not having the luxury of sitting on the fence in the third game makes it more intense. I think overall the second game works best in terms of conflict between groups and how you influence things.
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
Phase Equilibrium
Apprentice
Member # 6161
 written Saturday, July 30 2005 17:13 Profile #2
Jeff deleted the seemingly most moral sect (the Awakened) in GF3. He showed in many ways (both in GF2 and GF3) that the dual-survival of free will and social order is no longer posible facing such power as creating life. Personally I think the rebel brings people spiritual satisfaction while making them suffer much more than under shaper rule. Pretty much like the French Revolution.

Actually, Jeff let a member of the Awakened from GF2 join the rebel and be happy with that position.
Posts: 20 | Registered: Saturday, July 30 2005 07:00
Leonor
Apprentice
Member # 4708
 written Monday, August 1 2005 02:27 Profile #3
I wonder if becoming a dad changed Jeff? Even if it was unintended, don't you think the serviles could be the perfect analogy for the children's condition?

Maybe I should play through the games in order to appreciate the whole story? I am just confused though, as all stories seem to start in the beginning of the rebellion instead of having a logic follow up, like they were different approaches?

Any chance of a trilogy discount soon? :)
Posts: 16 | Registered: Wednesday, July 14 2004 07:00
Nikki.
Shaper
Member # 3442
 written Monday, August 1 2005 07:25 Profile Homepage #4
quote:
Originally written by Leonor:

Any chance of a trilogy discount soon? :)
I think we can count on one, but not yet. The game is still fairly new, and Jeff'll want to make as much money as he can. Maybe by Christmas though...

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How do you start?
Where do you go?
Who do you need to know?
Posts: 2864 | Registered: Monday, September 8 2003 07:00
arkadilo
Warrior
Member # 5935
 written Tuesday, August 2 2005 07:47 Profile #5
quote:
Originally written by Leonor:



Without giving away spoilers, which one from the series has a better plot and more moral options in your opinion?
IMHO I'd say that the Shaper Loyalty has a better plot towards the end and offers more excitement than ther rebels. I played a loyal 3 times, and a rebel 1.
Posts: 69 | Registered: Friday, June 10 2005 07:00
Contra
Infiltrator
Member # 5785
 written Tuesday, August 2 2005 12:50 Profile #6
quote:
Originally written by Phay Tsai:

Jeff deleted the seemingly most moral sect (the Awakened) in GF3. He showed in many ways (both in GF2 and GF3) that the dual-survival of free will and social order is no longer posible facing such power as creating life. Personally I think the rebel brings people spiritual satisfaction while making them suffer much more than under shaper rule. Pretty much like the French Revolution.

Actually, Jeff let a member of the Awakened from GF2 join the rebel and be happy with that position.
That Awakened actually makes his apperance in G1. He is not alligned back then, though, but allready ancient. Would not surprise me if he shows up in G4 aswell.

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Posts: 522 | Registered: Wednesday, May 4 2005 07:00
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Tuesday, August 2 2005 14:59 Profile Homepage #7
quote:
Originally written by Leonor:

...Maybe I should play through the games in order to appreciate the whole story? I am just confused though, as all stories seem to start in the beginning of the rebellion instead of having a logic follow up, like they were different approaches?
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To understand overall storyline you have to play the games in order. You will not understand what Geneforge (the artifact) is unless you play Geneforge 1. And you will not know where drakons come from unless you play Geneforge 2.

Another reason why I'd recommend starting with Geneforge 1 is that it and Geneforge 2 have much better plot. If you are going to chose only 1 game out of the series, I'd recommend Geneforge 2, because it has largest range of meaningful options and much better plot.

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For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Contra
Infiltrator
Member # 5785
 written Tuesday, August 2 2005 22:57 Profile #8
But G1 still rocks all the other games.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
Posts: 522 | Registered: Wednesday, May 4 2005 07:00
arkadilo
Warrior
Member # 5935
 written Wednesday, August 3 2005 04:00 Profile #9
I agree that GF1 is still the best. Sequels need to build upon the first one and add new twists to keep the excitement there. The last two have the 'recycled' feel to them...
Posts: 69 | Registered: Friday, June 10 2005 07:00