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Off With Their Heads
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Shipwrecked? Wasn't that the name of a BoA scenario that never got released? I am lost.

As far as real scenario designing advice, look in the Lyceum's Designer's Forum and Spiderweb's Scenario Workshop's Editor Articles. Specifically, this was Creator's article.

Just so people know, a person normally has to release at least one scenario for his advice to be taken seriously.

[ Wednesday, October 04, 2006 06:39: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Shaper
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Thanks Salmon. Maybe they should be referenced at the top of the page? Mods?

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Off With Their Heads
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Alternatively, put in a link to my links page, which makes it very easy to find anything.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Shaper
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Much better idea Kel.

And the Shipwrecked thing... maybe I'm thinking of two things. Wasn't there a BoE scenario that featured "wrecked" or "wreck" in it's title that takes everything from the party upon entering?

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Off With Their Heads
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Wreck of the Slug, perhaps?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Shaper
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I really ought to play BoE properly one of these days...

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Triad Mage
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Masks? On a Ship to Algiers?

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Shaper
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The scenario in question shall henceforth be known as "The One That Nikki Forgot". It took things away from the player, and isn't important in any way other than to illustrate that doing nasty things to the player isn't necessarily bad.

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Shaper
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quote:
Originally written by Ephesos:

Right, Nioca... you've missed my point. Half of this list is just "stupid things that people should've never put into scenarios in the first place". And I do mean people should break rules... if it weren't for rule-breaking, there's no way we would've had Mad Ambition work like it did (after all, shouldn't "Don't let split-up parties leave town" have been a "rule"?). We'd lose a lot of quality work if everyone played by these idiotic things you call rules.
I never said that people shouldn't break rules when it comes to scenario design. I simply said that you shouldn't stray too far from them. By all means break as many of these as you want.

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They're just freakin' guidelines, so stop being so full of yourself. I'll respect this kind of stuff once you've released something.
This argument would hold more weight if some of these suggestions weren't made by people who HAVE released scenarios.

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Breaking convention is not the same as poor design. So stop treating it like that.
I never said it was, nor did I treat it accordingly. Mad Ambition, Echoes: Renegade, Bahssikava, Exodus, and a few more I'm probably not thinking of all went outside some of the rules. They also are some of the best scenarios out there in the BoA Community.

What I want to know is why you are against this thread.

[ Wednesday, October 04, 2006 08:08: Message edited by: Nioca ]

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Shaper
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Forgive me for stepping into E's shoes here, but I think that the fact you provide "guidelines" whilst having no practical experience at all is a major bone here.

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Councilor
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And the fact that he put his one "rule" in bold and it didn't make it onto the list while almost everything else has is probably another source of contention.

Furthermore, Nikki said a similar thing later on, and Jumpin' Salmon quoted a similar thing from The Creator (again in bold), so it seems to be quite important. Put it on the list.

Dikiyoba.
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? Man, ? Amazing
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Profile #36
Huh. I try to include some bold statement in all my posts. Did I pick the right one this time?

:P

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Law Bringer
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*sigh*

You know, Dikiyoba, Nikki and Salmon kinda nailed it. I have very little else to say that can be said in a public forum.

I eagerly await the release of your scenario, so that I can gauge how well you've followed your own guidelines.

EDIT: I just had this pointed out to me... the only designer who's actually released something who posted a few rules was Bain. So your earlier argument holds no water.

[ Wednesday, October 04, 2006 18:32: Message edited by: Ephesos ]

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Agent
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Returning on-topic...

#? - Don't tyr to make big scenarios if you haven't experience or/and you almost never played Avernum and/or Exile Series.

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Shaper
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I had really hoped no one was going to revive this thread.

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Shaper
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Sorry for the double post. When I tried the first time, I got a flood warning ( :confused: ). Thinking that it didn't get through, I tried again. The results are what you see before you.

EDIT 2: To satisfy Ephesos's curiosity, my scenario currently breaks rules #2, #11, and #37.

[ Saturday, October 21, 2006 08:24: Message edited by: Ghouloca ]

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Lifecrafter
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Live and learn, Nioca. :)

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Law Bringer
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Or rather, live and let (this thread) die.

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...b10010b...
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quote:
Originally written by Ghouloca:

Sorry for the double post. When I tried the first time, I got a flood warning ( :confused: ).
That warning means that your excessive posting has angered God and he's threatening to drown the world in retaliation. Please don't do it again.

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Shaper
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If God should be mad at anyone for excessive posting, it should be the Salmon. He has posted more then I have. Of course, that may be my refusal to double-post for the sake of raising post counts.

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Councilor
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Oh, don't worry about him. He's already dammed for all eternity.

Dikiyoba.
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Shaper
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Having some pun, Dikiyoba?

[ Saturday, October 21, 2006 17:41: Message edited by: Ghouloca ]

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