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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, July 10 2003 17:42
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Hey - just make a fanfic. -------------------- And this was very odd because It was the middle of the night - Lewis Carrol well well well aren't we resilient Oh the fun Most generalizations are, unfortunately, true. Posts: 212 | Registered: Sunday, May 25 2003 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, July 10 2003 18:56
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I really hope he reconsiders his stance on NPC's. Posts: 19 | Registered: Saturday, July 5 2003 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, July 10 2003 19:27
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Nye wrote: quote:Ugh, don’t give anyone ideas, Nye. I can just imagine the Frrrrrr / Cheeseball slash now… :eek: Posts: 37 | Registered: Monday, June 9 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Friday, July 11 2003 01:07
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History's great and all, but heck, a whole lot of it's boring.(although the history of Exile/Avernum wouldn't be, I'm sure, but the Empire, God thats like, horrible, especialy what they did, why the heck would anyone want any more horrible facts about how they treated people?) -------------------- Help me out, click Here Join it and get me some cash, and have fun! Posts: 151 | Registered: Sunday, June 22 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Friday, July 11 2003 03:57
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quote:Right now, his stance is that we can make them. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, July 11 2003 04:24
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quote:Hmmm....but that's the point. Because there's no written history of Ermarian by Jeff/anyone else, how do we know what the Empire used to be like? Perhaps at one stage it was a golden kingdom of fluffy bunnies and abundant riches for all. Or perhaps it was always a despotic, explotative empire up to the time of Hawthorne (Prazac was a bit better, I think you'll agree). Without history we don't know. And finally, remember: those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Edit: Also, as has been said on the American Conflict Avatars (or whatever it's called) board, empires and countries go through good times and bad times. I suspect that the Ermarian Empire would be the same. [ Friday, July 11, 2003 04:26: Message edited by: Scipio ] -------------------- Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." - Soviet infantry manual, 1930's Posts: 267 | Registered: Wednesday, November 27 2002 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Friday, July 11 2003 07:35
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Reply from Jeff on the book: It is one of those things I would love to do. The problem is time. Between the multiple games I'm working on, other projects, and raising a toddler, I just don't have time for a lot of things it would be really cool to do. Sorry! - Jeff Vogel Spiderweb Software, Inc. so that's a NO... damn... -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Friday, July 11 2003 07:52
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The Empire as we know it originated on Aizo. The humans developed a civilization, cities, and more. There they fought against the giants, nephilim, and troglodytes and wiped them out. They developed boats and sailed in search of other continents. They discovered Pralgad and Vantanas. Vantanas was just a jungle to them, but Pralgad was much more hospitable. The Empire made war with the tribes on Pralgad and took them over. Pralgad offered a better environment for crops and was much less mountainous, so they settled there and moved the capital to Pralgad. Eventually they returned to Vantanas and began to clear some of the forest. They discovered its rich mineral deposits and spices and rich trading companies sprang up. Around this time, the Anama faith was embroiled in a bitter conflict with the Empire, and they were slaughtered. The remaining Anama fled, eventually ending up on the Isle of Bigail. South of Pralgad was Valorim, a land ruled by the vicious Ratbane clan of Nephilim. The Empire constructed Blackcrag Fortress at the southern end of the isthmus connected Pralgad and Valorim and began to mount attacks. After about 50-75 years, the Nephilim were overwhelmed and the cities of Gale and Lorelei were established. At this point, Hawthorne I was the Emperor. His court mages discovered the system of caves beneath the surface, and he sent an expedition. The expedition was led by Thralni, and some of the other members were Scrioth, Karzoth, and Korthax. This expedition was slaughtered, "to a man and a woman." After Hawthorne I's death his son, Hawthorne II, came to power. He began to send down violent and dangerous criminals of the foulest sort, instead of executing them. At this point, there was a power struggle among the mages, and Garzahd and his cronies won and appointed him the advisor to Hawthorne II. Hawthorne II sent these mages down to Exile, including Erika, Rone, Solberg, Aimee, and Patrick. When Hawthorne II died and Hawthorne III came to power, Garzahd remained his advisor. Hawthorne III saw the portal to Exile as the answers to all of society's troubles. All the misfits, antisocials, petty lawbreakers, and more were sent down to Exile. And this proved to be his undoing. Exile's History: After the first few people were sent down, they established a city and began to fight the demons and sliths that threatened them. When the mages were sent down, they were able to help stage an assault on Grah-Hoth, and they captured him in a bottle and stored him in Akhronath, with the lich-ified Prince Hrothar, who had fallen in the battle, to watch over him. When Micah was sent down, he worked closely with the archmages to establish a society. They created glowing mushrooms, built more cities, learned to fight, and they took over the caves. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Friday, July 11 2003 09:28
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Yes yes yes... but the point was to get more indepth information on some of the lesser known events, such as the First Visitation. There's plenty more, that was just an example. Such characters that we don't know anything about (Karzoth, Thralni) could come alive, will vibrant detail. That was the point. But it's not happening. So we should stop talking about it... -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, July 11 2003 10:17
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quote:Have you, by any chance, read The Story About the Baby (now in its toddler stages), by Jeff Vogel? Have you read about his ideas for children's books? -------------------- And this was very odd because It was the middle of the night - Lewis Carrol well well well aren't we resilient Oh the fun Most generalizations are, unfortunately, true. Posts: 212 | Registered: Sunday, May 25 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, July 12 2003 04:26
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Where might I obtain these entertaining works of literature? -------------------- Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." - Soviet infantry manual, 1930's Posts: 267 | Registered: Wednesday, November 27 2002 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, July 12 2003 07:52
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www.ironycentral.com -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, July 12 2003 10:10
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A lot of THAT history was the good kind, but through some I still felt like I was in a History class... He forgot to metion the first Exile/Avernum wars w/ the Empire, and other more interesting events... -------------------- Help me out, click Here Join it and get me some cash, and have fun! Posts: 151 | Registered: Sunday, June 22 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, July 12 2003 10:24
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I only went up to the first chaining of Grah-Hoth. After that, everything's in the exile games. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, July 15 2003 11:25
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If you want to go more indepth in Exile/Avernum history, maybe you should try writing in some of the details yourself. BOE/BOA is the perfect medium. And a First Visitation scenario might be cool. Has anyone done one? Posts: 54 | Registered: Saturday, June 7 2003 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Tuesday, July 15 2003 16:29
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YES... well... not yet. I'm making it! I already have the plans on paper. No one else use that idea or I'll... do something... Actually, I started making one for BOE (back in the BOE days) but never finished it. I never will, obviously, so I'll just use the stuff I made for that for BOA. FalcataG helped me with it, but then he left and I never saw him again. A sad story really... [ Tuesday, July 15, 2003 16:39: Message edited by: [E.E.P.] Karzoth ] -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, July 16 2003 00:20
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Aw :( . I was hoping on doing the 1st Visitation one day - but you're probably far ahead of me with your plans. Doesn't matter though, I can still make a scenario featuring the Vahnatai and their flight underground. :D For example, the adventurers are some of the creations the Vahnatai have just made, and they have to decide whether to join the Golems (Rebels) or the other species (helping the Vahnatai). Sort of like Geneforge from another perspective, namely that of the serviles. ;) I just have to make it so it isn't too much like the rebellion-cliché, like 'A small Rebellion' and other scenarios where you either join or fight them. [ Wednesday, July 16, 2003 00:21: Message edited by: Arancaytar ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Wednesday, July 16 2003 01:38
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Two scenarios about the First Visitation is not a bad thing. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Wednesday, July 16 2003 04:29
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How about three..? *an EVOL grin* :P -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 761 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, July 17 2003 08:36
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I'd kind of like to do a scenario about the first years of the Empire....i.e. how it rose to power and conquered Aizo. What do people think? -------------------- Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." - Soviet infantry manual, 1930's Posts: 267 | Registered: Wednesday, November 27 2002 08:00 |
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BANNED
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written Thursday, July 17 2003 09:27
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I'd like to argue Drakey's point about "humans" developing civilization on their own. What gets me is that Pralgad and Aizo spoke the same language (or close thereof) and had the same customs. It's almost as if they got their cultures from the same source. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, July 17 2003 09:27
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EDIT: TM posted right before me, this post refers to Scipio's. Cool, but from what perspective? I think the most interesting would be to have the PCs be native inhabitants of Aizo (Nephilim most likely, maybe primitive humans, dunno), or some other continent the Empire conquers. You could let the PCs be soldiers of the Empire, but it would most likely be a boring 'cleanse the land of non-human infestations' story. [ Thursday, July 17, 2003 09:29: Message edited by: Arancaytar ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, July 17 2003 10:27
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Well I want to steer away from 'boring'. I also want to steer away from 'cliched', so I suppose the native inhabitants perspective is the only real possibility. -------------------- Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." - Soviet infantry manual, 1930's Posts: 267 | Registered: Wednesday, November 27 2002 08:00 |
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Loyal Underling
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written Thursday, July 17 2003 11:48
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The native inhabitants of Aizo include giants, troglodytes, nephilim, and other tribes of humans. -------------------- [i]Great Potato[/i] "Unless by the force of eloquence they mean the force of truth; for if such is their meaning, I admit that I am eloquent." -- Socrates Posts: 126 | Registered: Thursday, September 27 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, July 17 2003 12:27
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While it would be great, I think Drakey's right....we're getting carried away a bit. Jeff is a busy man, what with Spiderweb and Irony Central and a child and God knows what else... -------------------- Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." - Soviet infantry manual, 1930's Posts: 267 | Registered: Wednesday, November 27 2002 08:00 |