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BANNED
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written Friday, July 18 2003 21:13
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quote:kekekekekeke drakey makes a typo dire!!! ^_____________^ Pralgad is indeed connected to Valorim by an isthmus, but Aizo is SW of that isthmus, and Vantanas is east of Aizo. EDIT: PS, Arancaytar... The creation of the Empire is most undoubtedly documented quite well. You're a beta-tester of Bandits 2, you should know this as well. And that reminds me, have you even been playing it? [ Friday, July 18, 2003 21:14: Message edited by: Doctor Wu ] -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 01:35
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What typo? It's Pralgrad. And yes, perhaps my placement of the continents is a bit off. And TM, I hope that your creation of the empire is not loony. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 02:15
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Don't worry TM, I have been testing it. Even though I haven't sent more reports lately. :P And, how much time is spanned by this history? A few centuries or a thousand years? The reign of one emperor would probably be around half a century. Best thing is if we first make a list of emperors who have reigned since the birth of the Empire, it gives structure to the whole thing. So the list ends with: - Hawthorne III. - Prazac One more question: Is there a specific time reckoning (calendar) that the Empire or Avernum employs? Avernum would count time probably from the completion of The Castle or something. Is there any important event that the Empire measures time from? -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 03:26
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The calendar used in E3 is calculated from the movement of the capital from Aizo to Pralgrad. There was a reign of Ironfist emperors from about 200-500. This was the time of the Anama War and the intial discovery of Valorim. Around 600, the Empire started their assault against Valorim Nephilim led by Ratbane. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 03:44
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Well I know Empress Tavhnan (Sp?) was reigning during AtG, and if each Emperor/ess reigns for approx 100, I would guess after Prazac there where 5-6 other Rulers then Tavhnan (Sp?) Is that map Drakefyre linked to of Pralgad the same as the one in AtG? I've played AtG to the point and am now ready to begin mapping it at, now I have several questions. 1 since the AtG is set 400 years after the Plagues, should I assume that most of it hasn't changed in that time, and also can anyone give me a rough date when the Keep of Tinraya was destroyed, along with Footracer. And also what Province/Sector is the istmus connected to as I have a rough map of both continents, but no way to connect them. Are all the continent the same relative size? -------------------- "Omnipresent, but always late" Posts: 220 | Registered: Tuesday, July 8 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 03:48
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Vantanas and Pralgrad are smaller. The isthmus connects to Pralgrad about one section east of the center at the bottom. Look at the map I linked to. The map I have is not from AtG. I'd surmise that there were 15 emperors or empresses between Prazac and Tavhan. 100 years is too long - 20-40 is much more reasonable. Avernum 3 takes place in 833, so are there any dates in AtG? [ Saturday, July 19, 2003 03:52: Message edited by: Drakefyre ] -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 03:52
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Are AtG and the map similar though. AtG takes place in 1163 during the rule of Tavhnan, I think its Tavhnan the third though I have to check [ Saturday, July 19, 2003 03:54: Message edited by: Zharrad ] -------------------- "Omnipresent, but always late" Posts: 220 | Registered: Tuesday, July 8 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 03:54
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I'm not positive, but I would presume so. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 03:59
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AtG is actually in 1274 IE More Info, Sol III was assansinated then his brother Ironclad I took the throne. And its Emperor Tahvan IV on the Throne -------------------- "Omnipresent, but always late" Posts: 220 | Registered: Tuesday, July 8 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 04:04
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That's right, it was Ironclad, not Ironfist. That line turned out to be quite long, like the Louis line in France. The Ironclad line cleansed Pralgrad of non-humans. Sol had tried to attack them, but they weren't strong enough. The ones on Aixo were taken care of from -150 to -50. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 04:10
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Whats the date of the construction of BlackCrag Fortress, Probably during the Reign of a Hawthorne as it was not settled that long before E/A3. -------------------- "Omnipresent, but always late" Posts: 220 | Registered: Tuesday, July 8 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 04:18
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I'd put it at around 600 to 610 - it gave them a foothold for domination of Valorim. Tinraya and Footracer were probably destroyed in 832. EDIT: Rather, it may be as late as 650 as it may have taken them quite some time to clear out the Nephilim from Footracer/Monroe provinces. [ Saturday, July 19, 2003 04:20: Message edited by: Drakefyre ] -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 04:57
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To summarize: List of Emperors: Aizo was cleansed -150 to -50 b.P. - Sol I.- Sol II.- Sol III. Sol tried to attack Pralgrad, but was beaten back. Sol III. Was assassinated and his brother Ironclad took the throne- Ironclad I.- Ironclad II.Ironclads conquered/cleansed Pralgrad, discovered Valorim- Ironclad III. Cleansed Valorim???Blackcrag fortress constructed about 650 a.P. - Hawthorne I.- Hawthorne II.- Hawthorne III.- Prazac (Empress)Tinraya/Footracer destroyed 832 by beasts Avernum 3 at 833 a.P. 5/6 rulers , 400 years after plagues Assume last three were - Tahvan I.- Tahvan II.- Tahvan III.At the Gallows in 1274 during reign of Tavhnan IV.- Tahvan IV.I'm assuming that consecutively numbered emperors reigned immediately after each other, for simplicity. Is that list approximately correct? :) If so, the next step I'm going to make is putting dates to each reign. Also, I'd suggest that we make a new topic either in the BoA or the BoE section for this. The original topic of this (A list of improvements wanted for BoA) is being veered away from. :P [ Saturday, July 19, 2003 07:39: Message edited by: Arancaytar ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 07:33
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Ratbane was a clan of Nephilim, not an emperor. :P -------------------- My Myspace, with some of my audial and visual art The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 07:38
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Whoops. :D That's how info gets distorted. quote:So I assumed the Empire was led by Ratbane, not the Nephilim. I did think it was a funny name for a human though... :P Okay, I edited Ratbane out. Was it Ironclad III. then who conquered Valorim? Oh, and I'm making a new topic for this now: "Leaders of the Empire?" Please post there. ;) [ Saturday, July 19, 2003 07:54: Message edited by: Arancaytar ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 08:30
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Your timeline is massively wrong. Check my reply in the other topic. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 12:05
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Currently working on correcting the timeline with the info you gave me in the other topic. I'll post the result later. :) -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 12:45
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What was the name of the Emperor mentioned in Valley of Dying Things who ruled a century earlier? Posts: 190 | Registered: Wednesday, July 3 2002 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 15:56
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I searched for that in the Scenario Editor. Went through all the school levels looking for something remotely resembling a historical record. In the library, I found this dialogue special: quote:Funny thing is, the dragon Pythras says she's been in the school for 127 years, so her time of capture would be three years after the closure of the school. Jeff obviously seems to have made a logical mistake there. :P It would be very interesting to know when the scenario takes place. My guess would be that Stewart reigns sometime between Prazac (Exile III) and Tahvan (At the Gallows, which was released *after* VoDT). The fact that Stewart has no number to his name would indicate he's the first of this line. [ Saturday, July 19, 2003 15:57: Message edited by: Arancaytar ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 23:34
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Why would Valley of dying things be set so long after Exile/Avernum 3 this isn't the way Jeff does things. He obviously ruled before Hawthorne, just because it doesn't fit into your non-canon timeline doesn't mean you can mess with the canon timeline. Posts: 190 | Registered: Wednesday, July 3 2002 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, July 19 2003 23:51
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Please refer to the timeline in the other topic, which is more up to date, and in which emperor Stewart has indeed been fitted in before the Hawthornes, assuming VoDT to be set 10 years after Exile III, in 843 a.P. By the way, the objective of what we're doing here is to make a canon timeline, since their doesn't seem to be any complete timeline yet - so we have to add certain things, be a bit creative, while at the same time we adjust it so it fits to what has been known before. ;) -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, July 20 2003 14:37
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Emperor Steward ruled 130 years before VoDT. The closing of the school would have been part of the Empire's crackdown on mages, bringing them all under more direct control. This was before the time in which the Exile/Avernum games are set. Hawthorne III ruled during Exile/Avernum I, and Hawthorne II before him. Assuming Hawthorne I ruled before Hawthorne II, Stewart would have ruled just before the Hawthornes, or with one or two Emperors in between. Posts: 54 | Registered: Saturday, June 7 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, July 21 2003 16:15
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That's what's in the timeline already, and it's even in that part of it that we all agree on. :P -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, July 24 2003 08:52
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quote:Hi, sorry to barge in, but: *ahem* "THE LANDS OF THE EMPIRE" The Empire, blessed power over us all, controls the four known continents. Aizo [NB: not Aixo], the oldest, is the birthplace of the Empire although the ruling seat is now on the continent of Pralgad [NB: na na na boo boo!]. Vantanas is the smallest continent, but in many ways the richest, with its hot climate, fascinating fauna, and rich stores of gold and diamonds. And finally, there is the recently settled Valorim, which has a wild (though controlled) spirit. - Exile III [ Thursday, July 24, 2003 08:53: Message edited by: The Time is Nye ] -------------------- And this was very odd because It was the middle of the night - Lewis Carrol well well well aren't we resilient Oh the fun Most generalizations are, unfortunately, true. Posts: 212 | Registered: Sunday, May 25 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, July 24 2003 08:54
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What about Doston? Is that unknown? -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |