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This just strikes me as wrong.

I mean, yes, I do believe in a literal 7-day creation, and yes, I am glad to see that some evangelical Christians are actually getting up with the times in terms of multimedia and experiencial presentation.
But really, what are you going to accomplish with this aside from indoctrination of children and ignorant adults? Yes, I'm sure that there will be cited scientific facts. Of course; this is sponsored by Answers in Genesis, by definition it must have facts that anyone who doesn't already agree with them will simply find irrelevant (Last I heard, AiG was still pushing the C14 issue).
But what about a standing in the scientific community? What about leading by example? A venture such as this not only throws itself in front of senseless persecution, but invites said persecution without an ounce of defense.
Without an ounce of defense.

Or at least, that's what AiG's track record shows.

Me, I'd stick with a museum that portrays what we do historically know, and then devote a handfull of halls to various theories of cosmogenesis, extinction, eras, whatever; presenting facts, arguments, and counter-arguments for each. Such is the nature of science: to observe, not to argue politics.

Hmm. I suddenly feel like a hypocrite. Oh well.

I dunno. If this is any sort of victory, I am quite sure that it is shallow and will not last.

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I wonder if it'll have Raptor Jesus.

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quote:
Originally written by Lenar:

I'd stick with a museum that portrays what we do historically know
Apparently people have different concepts of what this is.

Of all the forms of Biblical literalism, they seem to have chosen the most extreme. Isn't it more efficient, for such people defending such beliefs, to cast off science entirely and say, "We believe what we believe because it seems true to us and because we want to believe it," than to try to defend it in this way?

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Ned Flanders from The Simpsons has someplace to take his kids.

Seriously, this allows them to "prove" to others that they are right even if they have to twist the facts. It's the next step from the books.
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...co-sponsored by the Association for Scientologist Science. :P

But seriously, I don't quite get it. I mean, I'm almost compelled to visit just to figure out what the heck they're doing. For instance, I find it incredibly funny that there's a giant dinosaur on their home page, and I can't help but wonder how on earth they justify that.

Perhaps I need a better explanation of what's going on, because it's just funny as is.

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I hate to say it, but trying to base anything scientific on a religious book written by man is one of the least intelligent things people have done in history. That would be like constructing a building using Dr Seuss's buildings as an example. You can do it, but it will be hard and not work very well.

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quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

Ned Flanders from The Simpsons has someplace to take his kids.
:(
It didn't use to be that way. I still remember a time when Ned was a well-meaning, kind, not-overtly-religious man. Now he's just another preachy republican fundie. I miss the good ole days...

As for the creationist museum, if this would happen anywhere else in the world besides the U.S., I'd be surprised. Now I'm just sad.
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Originally by Ephesos:

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For instance, I find it incredibly funny that there's a giant dinosaur on their home page, and I can't help but wonder how on earth they justify that.
I imagine it's something along the lines of dinosaurs being created along with everything else, surviving the Flood, and then gradually going extinct due to climate change, human activities, and/or other causes.

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As for the creationist museum, if this would happen anywhere else in the world besides the U.S., I'd be surprised. Now I'm just sad.
One was finished not too long ago here. It's pretty close to the Royal Tyrell. I didn't read up on it when it appeared in the paper, but the picture of the teddy bear fossil was cool.

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Interestingly, Answers in Genesis used to include Australian creationists in its number. However, the group split in 2004-2005, with the Australians becoming the "Creation Ministries International" and the US group retaining the Answers in Genesis name. Why did they split? The US group did not like maintaining a webpage called, "Maintaining Creationist Integrity" where they would critique bad arguments made by creationists.

The Americans are the ones building the museum, interestingly enough, and without a "Maintaining Creationist Integrity" webpage...

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I think it's crazy, but it's not unusual craziness. At least it's family-friendly and apparently tends towards the cute and amusing rather than fire and brimstones.

—Alorael, who doubts it will help indoctrinate anyone who's not already well within the fold. If you don't believe in creationism it's probably still both entertaining and quite possibly technically impressive.
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quote:
Originally written by Ephesos:

...co-sponsored by the Association for Scientologist Science. :P
Uh... you're kidding, right? Please...

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But everyone already knows that Yu-gi-oh proved creationism was wrong

Note: Link isn't G-Rated, more like PG-13 for those who care. Or R in some places(like Utah). That should be enough to make me blameless now.

[ Tuesday, May 29, 2007 14:16: Message edited by: Bandit Keith ]

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Did you know: When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."

Did you know: After the Holocaust, Germany decided that it takes at least 57 murders before they'll even consider prosecution and guys like Ted Bundy would known as 'Weekend Warriors'

Did you know: Most facts on the internet are made up with little or no thought to decency or good sense. And that most of the people who make them die a lonely pathetic death.
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