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Shaper
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written Tuesday, May 15 2007 12:23
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Tintin! Beloved Tintin! Man I loved those Belgian comic books as a kid. -S- -------------------- A4 Item Locations A4 Singleton G4 Items List G4 Forging List The Insidious Infiltrator Posts: 2009 | Registered: Monday, September 12 2005 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Tuesday, May 15 2007 17:25
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http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/hits2_flash/index_noaccess.html http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/technologies/spinoffs_index.html http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/ http://www.nasasolutions.com/at_home.html http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/Spinoff2006/contents.html http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/Spinoff2005/contents.html http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/Spinoff2004/contents.html http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/spinoff2003/contents.html http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/spinoff2002/contents.html http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/spinoff2001/contents.html http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/spinoff2000/contents.htm http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/spinoff1999/contents.htm http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/spinoff1998/contents.htm http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/spinoff1997/contents.html http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/spinoff1996/contents.html are some sites that have NASA spin offs pretty much sources the list includes but is in now way limited too: Scratch resistant glasses joyststicks blow molded technolgy (tenis shoes) satellite tv cellphone technolgy infrared earthermometers cordless drills vacs invisible braces edible toothpaste liquid crystal polymers car design software temper foam water filtration/sterilazation technolgy radiant house insulatuor coclear implant- hearing aid grooved roadways/runways lifeshears rescue cutting shears useing leds for wound healing digital image processing for internal ordans cold laser technolgy for heart surgery solar power fire fighter breathing apparatus advanced structural design (bridges, buildings, cars, trains.ect) water sewage treatment weather satellite storm prediction satellite navigation and communication NASA/NASCAR -cool suit -foam padded collars -------------------- A rock has weight whether you admit it or not Posts: 479 | Registered: Wednesday, July 12 2006 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Tuesday, May 15 2007 18:25
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And Tang! Don't forget Tang! Well, I guess it wasn't invented for space flight, but space flight popularized it. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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? Man, ? Amazing
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written Tuesday, May 15 2007 18:57
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quote:Imagine them landing the shuttle using a wii controller. :) -------------------- quote: Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00 |
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The Establishment
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written Tuesday, May 15 2007 19:59
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Space is the ultimate destiny of the human race if it wishes to survive. It is inevitable in a planet of limited resources and in a solar system populated by asteroids. Becoming a species capable of living off planet is vital to long term survival. As for the ecnomic issues, that is not completely true. The one potential future resource that can be found on the moon is helium-3, a fusion energy fuel. Because of its low mass and the presence of an atmosphere, only very small quantities of the isotope can be found on Earth. If helium-3 fusion can be made practical with similar operational costs as nuclear fission, the economic advantages would be much more than offset by the costs of space travel due to its high energy density. -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 14:26
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So much for terraforming Mars, I doubt that it's actually possible. Where are you going to obtain massive amounts of Oxygen and Nitrogen to create a breathable atmosphere? Since faster-than-light travel has been rendered impossible by the law of physics, strip mining these gasses off other celestial bodies is out of question. Bacteria that evolutionists claim transformed the Earth's atmosphere are out of question, as they wouldn't survive on Mars. Even if these things were plausible, how would your fund the terraforming project. Say humans really did manage to terraform Mars: 1. As Kelandon said, the acceleration due to gravity is less than half of Earth's, most likely resulting in a plethora of health problems. 2. According to Wikipedia, the maximum temperature on Mars is 268K (which is 37 degrees Fahrenheit and 5 degrees Celsius). We'd need a lot of Russians and Scandinavians. 3. How many people would be willing to colonize Mars? Terraforming a planet with a proportionally similar atmosphere to Earth's may be possible. But unlike terraforming in EV Nova, it would probably take a very long time. -------------------- WWJD? Posts: 1384 | Registered: Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 15:28
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quote:This sentence implies that it was possible before those laws were invented and messed things up. :P -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Canned
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 16:49
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I wonder what it is like on the moon... -------------------- I can transform into almost anything, though not sanity. Muffins n' Hell. Note that revisions of the first part is down the list. Posts: 1799 | Registered: Sunday, February 4 2007 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 17:44
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Perhaps we can take up a collection to help you find out. I believe a giant rubberband could be had for under twenty dollars. Anyone? Anyone? -S- -------------------- A4 Item Locations A4 Singleton G4 Items List G4 Forging List The Insidious Infiltrator Posts: 2009 | Registered: Monday, September 12 2005 07:00 |
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Canned
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 17:55
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I meant actually exploring it! -------------------- I can transform into almost anything, though not sanity. Muffins n' Hell. Note that revisions of the first part is down the list. Posts: 1799 | Registered: Sunday, February 4 2007 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 18:01
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What you do when we get you there will be your business. -S- -------------------- A4 Item Locations A4 Singleton G4 Items List G4 Forging List The Insidious Infiltrator Posts: 2009 | Registered: Monday, September 12 2005 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 18:28
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Terrafoming mars would be out of the question. Faster then light travel with what know of physics is currently impossible due to inertia. Caltech is researching the very nature of inertia and if we are really lucky we might find away to minuplate inertia. The second possiblity is to warp space so the distnace we need to travel is shorter. However the only things to day cabale of warping space like thats are Black holes. The only way would could replicate a black whole is with an atom smasher and those BHs eveaporte in the fraction of a second and have the grational pull of an astreiod. -------------------- A rock has weight whether you admit it or not Posts: 479 | Registered: Wednesday, July 12 2006 07:00 |
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? Man, ? Amazing
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 19:09
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This discussion prompts me to recommend the movie "Idiocracy" to all participants and voyeurs. -------------------- quote: Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 19:14
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I just say that a lot of my previous post is hope and speculation -------------------- A rock has weight whether you admit it or not Posts: 479 | Registered: Wednesday, July 12 2006 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 19:32
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And, um, vague, misleading, or wrong. I don't think GR effects (warping space-time) will really help us travel large distances, because the amount of mass we'd need to make that happen would be, well, astronomical. But hey, the local part of the galaxy has enough neat stuff to keep us busy for a while. We could actually send a mission to Alpha Centauri someday. Heck, with SR effects on our side, we might be able to send a mission from Earth to Sirius someday. Not soon, but someday. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Canned
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 22:59
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You think that if an object is large enough it can bend time and space around it making possible to travel great distances with little time. That's what i herd tell me if i am wrong. So what about something replacing matter like dark matter. It doesn't have any size it's heavy and distort time. So why not use it . The only problem is were are going to find it? We can make some but not enough. Got a better idea? Terraforming mars? Crazy apes. Dose any body knows about the string therory? Well imagine that the string that we are theoraticly made of tune to one special type of environment and way of vibrating. Th vibration are distorted because of change. So what about a massive change? Like going on mars? Then the strings would vibrate in a different maner. So if the strings change of vibration we adapt to that change. So suggesting that our body dose not adapt what would happen then? We get sick then. It's my theory. I can be wrong. And no space is not the ultimate destiny of mankind : extinction is. [ Wednesday, May 16, 2007 23:33: Message edited by: upon mars ] -------------------- You can jump off a bridge, fire a gun in your mouth, drink poison,or going in to the tiger's pit but you will still end up dead it's a mater of time and how . Posts: 312 | Registered: Sunday, November 26 2006 08:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 23:14
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The kind of bending of space (and more to the point, time) that you get from massive objects is not helpful in travelling. To make wormholes and warp drives, you need negative energy density. The good news is that, as far as we can now see, general relativity does permit wormholes and warp drives; it just requires exotic matter to bend spacetime in the right ways. The bad news is that we currently don't see how the right kind of matter can really exist. Negative energy density can in principle occur through quantum effects (specifically, the Casimir effect), but the calculations that show this use quite idealized models, and making them more realistic seems to reduce or even eliminate the negative energy. The general relativistic warp drive was invented by a theoretician named Alcubierre. If you google 'Alcubierre metric' you find a number of pages that look reasonable enough. Note that he didn't invent anything about how to make such a device; he just showed that in principle, with the right kind of matter, GR admits FTL 'travel', by scrunching and unscrunching space instead of moving through it normally. -------------------- We're not doing cool. We're doing pretty. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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Canned
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written Wednesday, May 16 2007 23:37
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Then it might be near to the impossible for mankind to explore deep space? Then what? We stay here and eat chips? I wonder why mankind wants to go in space.... Are we trying to recover something deep down inside our selves? [ Tuesday, May 22, 2007 07:30: Message edited by: upon mars ] -------------------- You can jump off a bridge, fire a gun in your mouth, drink poison,or going in to the tiger's pit but you will still end up dead it's a mater of time and how . Posts: 312 | Registered: Sunday, November 26 2006 08:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Thursday, May 17 2007 03:38
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I am reminded once again that comprehensibility is a virtue, and so is reading the blasted thread. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Thursday, May 17 2007 05:47
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Oh, just let the philosophical be waxed. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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La Canaliste
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written Thursday, May 17 2007 06:11
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quote:See, this is why we can't leave legislation to physicists. -------------------- I am a mater of time and how . Deep down, you know you should have voted for Alcritas! Posts: 387 | Registered: Tuesday, March 1 2005 08:00 |
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By Committee
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written Thursday, May 17 2007 08:23
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Or, perhaps more relevantly, physics to legislators. Posts: 2242 | Registered: Saturday, April 10 2004 07:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Thursday, May 17 2007 22:58
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Though in the USA a certain amount of research funding gets directed by earmarked congressional appropriations instead of peer review. You know, tacked onto a bill to limit the amount of cyanide allowed in chicken feed will be an amendment to give the University of Broken Stump a hundred million dollars for a particle accelerator. And meanwhile Fermilab is holding bake sales. Well, something like that. It is kind of dumb. -------------------- We're not doing cool. We're doing pretty. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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La Canaliste
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written Friday, May 18 2007 08:16
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Now if you baked chickens fed with cyanide for your bake sale, and then sold them to your Representatives, maybe you too could get nifty clauses tacked onto bills? But what do Brits understand about democracy? -------------------- I am a mater of time and how . Deep down, you know you should have voted for Alcritas! Posts: 387 | Registered: Tuesday, March 1 2005 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, May 18 2007 10:55
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quote:You have won at Signature. -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |