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Now that Eldibs brought up ac-dc I'll say this.Metallica is an older band then ac-dc ,but they say they we're influenced by ac-dc.Anyone else find this strange?

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AC/DC is older than Metallica. AC/DC was formed in 1973, while Metallica started in 1981.

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Really? I never knew that.Still to me they sound nothing alike.Ac-dc is more rock while Metallica is metal as least to me.

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Brian Johnson-era AC/DC (from Back in Black on) sounds a lot like Metallica to me, and that began just before Metallica was founded.

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I think its just my mind I'm a Metallica fan ,but not AC-DC so I think my mind is sub-consciously telling me that they can't me they sound alike.

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I like country music and my favorite songwriters are Conway Twitty and Alan Jackson.
My favoite songs now are Redneck Yacht Club by Craig Morgan, Boondocks by Little Big Town, and Good News, Bad News by George Strait and LeeAnn Womack.
My top 5 favorite country acts are as follows:
1. George Strait
2. Conway Twitty
3. Alan Jackson
4. Reba McIntyre
5. Rebecca Lynn Howard.

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Personally, I think that Bon Scott is better than Brian Johnson. That said, a lot of the songs post-Bon Scott are good.

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I like them both equally. They both do different things with their voice well. If you were to have Brian Johnson sing "High Voltage", it would sound wrong. Likewise, if Bon Scott were to sing "Mistress for Christmas", it would sound wrong.

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Well, me and a mate always have an argument: He says that Bon Scott and Brian Johnson sound different, I say they sound similar. Not the same, but similar. What are your thoughts on this, Eldibs?

Oh, and Brian Johnson singing High Voltage is good.

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It is very odd to hear Brian Johnson singing Bon Scott-era songs, which I've only heard occasionally (on live recordings).

I think they sound fairly different. Not as different as, say, Axl Rose and Layne Staley (can you imagine if Alice in Chains tried to cover a GNR song?), but different.

I also think that the band changed styles a little when they changed lead singers, too. The guitars on Back in Black are heavier, darker, and more modern than the guitars on Highway to Hell. They're both good albums, but they don't sound alike to me.

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About this hole AC/DC - Metallica thing... you can get inspired by a band without making the exact same music, or music that sounds like it. But you can also get inspired about stage performance, album-art, and that sort of things. But they have some simular sounds from time to time.

About AC/DC; Bon Scott is no more. That's why they had to find a new singer, Brian Johnson. But Thunderstruck and Back In Black are from that era, and those are good songs. Of course it's sad Scott died, but complaining about Brian Johnson isn't fair. You wouldn't like it if they had stopped back then. ;)

Same for Metallica after the death of Cliff Burton, which is a sad story. They made some really good music after that, including their most popular album, The Black Album, or selftitled. And after Jason Newsted left, they made some good music as well, with Frantic as one of my favorites.

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I also think that the band changed styles a little when they changed lead singers, too. The guitars on Back in Black are heavier, darker, and more modern than the guitars on Highway to Hell. They're both good albums, but they don't sound alike to me.
To me, Back in Black sounded heavier than the other post-Bon Scott era albums as well. The Razors Edge was definitely higher pitched than Back in Black.

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He says that Bon Scott and Brian Johnson sound different, I say they sound similar. Not the same, but similar. What are your thoughts on this, Eldibs?
They do sound similar, but different. Brian Johnson has a deeper voice, and has more "croak" in his voice. Also, as time has passed, he seems to have gained more "croak." Regardless, AC/DC has always had a unique singing voice. The only band I've heard come close to this voice is Nazareth, in the song "Hair of the Dog," who's chorus is expletive (look up the lyrics), and which almost always gets mistaken for an AC/DC song.

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You wouldn't like it if they had stopped back then
I wouldn't like it if they stopped ever.

By the way, AC/DC is working on a new album that's supposed to come out some time this year. How's that for longevity in a band?

[ Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:33: Message edited by: Eldibs ]

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Originally written by Lady Davida:

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Originally written by SupaNik:

Various Other Bands/Artists I Like:
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* Elliott Smith

Have you heard Ben Folds' Late? It's a great song inspired, apparently, by a great musician.

No I haven't... I'll level with ya, I'm pretty new to Elliott - I was browsing HMV when I saw Either Or. I fainlty remembered Elliott did some of the stuff for the soundtrack to Good Will Hunting, so I bought it.

Then I borrowed some tracks from friends. So I have no idea what or who he influenced...

"Morning After" and "The Biggest Lie" are my favourite Elliott Smith songs.

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Originally written by Eldibs:

The only band I've heard come close to this voice is Nazareth, in the song "Hair of the Dog,"
That's funny — I'd never made that connection before. That does sound a lot like Brian Johnson singing.

The first version of that song that I ever heard was the Guns N' Roses version, though, so I had no chance of mistaking it for an AC/DC song.

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I agree with Eldibs about Scott's and Johnson's voices. Their lyrical styles are also similar, yet different. From what I gather, the biggest difference, in terms of their music and personas, is that Scott had a much stronger "bad boy" image. The liner notes for the Back In Black album say that Scott basically gave his approval of Johnson when he saw him in a concert, actually. I don't understand why some people think Johnson ruined AC/DC. Johnson wrote Back In Black, which I hear from some friends I have who are in bands is fun to play, and Let Me Put My Love Into You, which is my favorite AC/DC song.

In terms of "longevity", though, The Rolling Stones recently released a new album. I hear it flopped.

My favorite classical composer is Franz Schubert, by far. He wrote some very good melodies. So far, I've heard Die Forelle, the Trout Quintet, the Arpeggione Sonata, the unfinished 8th Symphony, and Music of Moments. I loved every single movement. I enjoyed Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata and 5th Symphony as well, but not as much as those Schubert works I mentioned. Perhaps just Romantic music in general, but those are the only two I know are classified as Romantic. Schubert definitely though.

On the other hand, I hate J.S. Bach. He's terrible. It sounds like random notes strung together. No rhythm or melody at all. Gut-wrenching to listen to. I don't understand why he's so popular. Probably for the same reason people eat truffles (the fungus that supposedly tastes like dirt): so they can say they have a "distinguished taste". Distinguished tastes suck. I listen to everything but Baroque and salsa, pretty much. I even listen to grindcore.

As for non-classical composers, I don't have a particular favorite. TMBG, The Beatles, and Pete Townshend of The Who are pretty high up there, I guess.

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Originally written by The Almighty Doer of Stuff: ...is that Scott had a much stronger "bad boy" image.
Which is, imho, justified by how Scott died.

EDIT: Fixed quote.

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...in terms of their music and personas, is that Scott had a much stronger "bad boy" image.
I agree. Scott had more of a "bad boy" image, while Johnson had a more direct "bad@$$ criminal" style. However, both of them were definitely perverted. I mean, "Fire Your Guns" wasn't exactly about artillery, and "The Jack" wasn't about a friendly game of poker. But then again, "Big Balls" wasn't about male genetelia.

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In terms of "longevity", though, The Rolling Stones recently released a new album. I hear it flopped.
Aerosmith and Def Leppard have both come out with new albums as well. I have no idea how well they sold. Def Leppard is supposed to be working on another album, due out this year.

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Which is, imho, justified by how Scott died.
Just for those who don't know how Bon Scott died, here is a link.

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Yes, I decided against a link.

Oh, and INXS have a new album. But they are awesome, so that makes up for it.

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Originally written by Eldibs:

But then again, "Big Balls" wasn't about male genetelia.
Well, ostensibly. It's pretty heavy on the double entendres.

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quote:
Originally written by Eldibs:

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In terms of "longevity", though, The Rolling Stones recently released a new album. I hear it flopped.
Aerosmith and Def Leppard have both come out with new albums as well. I have no idea how well they sold. Def Leppard is supposed to be working on another album, due out this year.[/QB]
Guns 'N Roses, well Axl Rose has been saying for at least 4 years or so, that there will be a new studio album of Guns 'N Roses, Chinese Demoncraty or something like that. I don't think it will ever come, cause the good musicians, the real power of guns n roses is gone, they're all in Velvet Revolver now. Not that i would mind if it never comes out... ;)

And the new Stones Album is pretty good, i read a lot of good reviews about it, and what i heard, it's pretty good. But that can be a matter of taste, at least they sold a heck of a lot of them.

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I even listen to grindcore.
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Yes, finally someone who listens to grindcore, I've been looking for someone like you for ages.

Favorite genres: Progressive Metal, Power Metal.
Favorite Bands: Dream Theater (progressive), Nightwish (operatic power) (although the singer got the boot so that's probably gonna change soon).
Favorite Albums: either Images And Words or Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence by Dream Theater, Oceanborn by Nightwish.
Favorite Songs: Pull Me Under (I&W), About To Crash (6DoIT) by DT, Nightquest by NW.

Additional bands that I enjoy (in no particular order):
Opeth (Progressive Death Metal)
Echosilence (Progressive Metal)
Dimmu Borgir (Symphonic Black Metal)
Kadenzza (Avantgarde Symphonic Black Metal)
Children Of Bodom (Extreme Power Metal)

Also, for those of you who say they listen to metal then state bands such as Slipknot or Korn, you are contradicting yourself. The only connection they have with metal is the genre name "Nu Metal" which is just another form of alternative. Even Alternative Metal is in some ways metal, Nu Metal is not. :mad:

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Also, for those of you who say they listen to metal then state bands such as Slipknot or Korn, you are contradicting yourself. The only connection they have with metal is the genre name "Nu Metal" which is just another form of alternative. Even Alternative Metal is in some ways metal, Nu Metal is not. :mad: [/QB]
I hate the term Nu Metal. It inncludes Slipknot, KoRn, Linkin Park, System of a Down, Type O Negative and those bands have nothing, or very little in common. I don't know what label they should get, but giving everything new the term Nu Metal, it's just wrong. And some bands can't really be discribed as metal, like Linkin Park, but Slipknot is metal, but not ordinary metal. It has eliments of all sorts of metal, which makes it hard to put in a box. But everyone's free to call it how they like, Nu Metal, Metal, Alternative, rubbish ;) i still believe it's good music.

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Hmmm, never knew that there were so many sorts of metal. although I mostly listen to classical music, when one of my friends has some metal on his Ipod or something, i tend to listen sometimes, and its not bad at all. its loud, yes, but does loud mean bad? I don't think so.

Nu metal, does that mean every band which is slightly different from normal metal?

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Originally written by Thralni, chicken god prophet:

... Nu metal, does that mean every band which is slightly different from normal metal?
Nu metal mostly means all the bands that can't be placed under one specific type of metal. There are, i believe about 20 different sorts of metal, things from pop-metal *gags*, things like Bon Jovi, to Death Metal, like Morbid Angel. And mostly new band which oviasly make metal, can't be put in one specific box. That's why they made a giant heap for all those bands, and called it Nu Metal. But it's a shame, cause there are bands in that catagory you can hardly compare... It's a bit stupid, the term Nu Metal, but i can't think of an alternative.

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