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Infiltrator
Member # 5806
Profile Homepage #25
It is an insult, lad. Whatever you call it, "You suck" is still an insult. The question is, while Ben take it personally?

*Sighes for himself*

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So, as the great Groxy, I have come back to be served by goblins. In the "main hall" of the goblin cave was a large totem which resembled very much of... me.
Posts: 437 | Registered: Friday, May 13 2005 07:00
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #26
I am certainly not a lad :P

Ben is stealing the Alo sig for every post he makes on Jadewolf's forum, and besides that seems to be the way we interact. Nothing harsh is meant by anything I say to him, and I'm pretty sure he knows that.

[ Thursday, June 16, 2005 09:58: Message edited by: Aurelia ]

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Nena
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Shock Trooper
Member # 5585
Profile #27
Not every post.

Just most of them. :)

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Posts: 258 | Registered: Wednesday, March 9 2005 08:00
Shaper
Member # 73
Profile #28
quote:
Originally written by I'm also not Alorael:

So far JadeWolf's forum is doing okay, despite the fact that it only has about seven members that frequently participate. If you haven't at least looked at it, you should. Oh, and why was Polaris founded?
During the time of the Misc. mod elections, a bunch of conservatives (Logalot, Sir Motrax of Exile, and Enraged Slith) and Alorael became fed up with Desperance members ruling the Spidweb boards (a good number of them were moderators at the time, including Alec, Djur, Scorpius, Terror's Martyr, Saunders, and Drakefyre, IIRC). They decided to form a conspiracy to overthrow Desperance. This is despite the fact that at the time, Alorael also posted at Desperance, unless I am mistaken. My guess is he joined the conspiracy more for amusement than for anything else. Anyway, at one point, Scorpius posted a big banner on top of the Misc forums that said "ADoS IS A LAGOT, Love Scorpius & TM". The Polareans took this chance to get me to join. Sir Motrax of Exile sent me an IM and invited me to a chat room, where we decided on the name Polaris and hatched a plot. The first thing we did was get TM and Scorpius demodded for the offense. We also convinced Frahhamn to join our conspiracy, and sent him as a spy into Desperance (because the rest of us were too frightened of the place) to uncover their evil plans (of which they had none, of course). He was quickly found out and nobody really cared, except that the Despers used this failed espionage as a reason to make fun of us even more than they already were. On top of that, Frah decided he liked the place and stayed there for a while (although he eventually left). Anyway, at some point they started a message board on Invision. Eventually Polaris and Desperance forgot their differences and they get along now, for the most part.

[ Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:27: Message edited by: The Almighty Doer of Stuff ]

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The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community
The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database
Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database
BoE Webring - Self explanatory
Polaris - Free porn here
Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too)
Famous Last Words - A local pop-punk band
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Veteran*
Member # 5
Profile #29
God, one would think this is the CIA. For the record, Polaris may have pushed for a demodding of TM and Scorp, but Mariann has demodded people for less.
Posts: 455 | Registered: Tuesday, May 17 2005 07:00
Shaper
Member # 73
Profile #30
Mariann wouldn't have even looked if not for Polaris, though.

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The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community
The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database
Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database
BoE Webring - Self explanatory
Polaris - Free porn here
Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too)
Famous Last Words - A local pop-punk band
They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance
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Veteran*
Member # 5
Profile #31
Which proves what? That you can whine and tattle on other people?
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Lifecrafter
Member # 585
Profile Homepage #32
Hmm. I don't remember a lot of that, ADoS. Spies? You make it sound a lot more organized and determined than it ever was.

This has already been discussed at length here

[ Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:40: Message edited by: Logalot^2 ]

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Posts: 780 | Registered: Friday, February 1 2002 08:00
Too Sexy for my Title
Member # 5654
Profile #33
quote:
Originally written by Medicine Man:

Which proves what? That you can whine and tattle on other people?
Something tells me you are not a polaris fan.
Posts: 1035 | Registered: Friday, April 1 2005 08:00
Veteran*
Member # 5
Profile #34
Nah, I have no problem with Polaris. I'm not a Desper or uhh.. Polarian? I just thought the post that ADoS made was a tad bit ridiculous sounding.
Posts: 455 | Registered: Tuesday, May 17 2005 07:00
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #35
If I had been in town, I don't think that things would have escalated nearly as far, either.

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Shaper
Member # 73
Profile #36
For your information, MM, I didn't want to send Mariann an email. The others all did, except Alorael, who didn't care either way. I beleive it was SMoE who sent it.

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The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community
The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database
Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database
BoE Webring - Self explanatory
Polaris - Free porn here
Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too)
Famous Last Words - A local pop-punk band
They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance
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Shaper
Member # 32
Profile #37
Just let it go already ADoS. Its in the past and no one else cares.

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Lt. Sullust
Cogito Ergo Sum
Polaris
Posts: 2462 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Guardian
Member # 3521
Profile #38
He was merely explaining an event in community history to someone who was unaware and curious about the past. There's no harm in that, and there wasn't any particular bias evident in his tale. Certainly he's making no attempt to stir things up again between Polaris and Desp., if that's what you're concerned about.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Master
Member # 4614
Profile Homepage #39
Alo can't stop me from using his sig on JadeWolf's forum. However, I have said that he can have it back as soon as he joins and starts posting there. But that will never happen.

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Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #40
It's amuzing to see how every time somebody tells a story the teller considers himself to be the main moving forse behind events.

EDIT: This isn't just about ADoS. I've seen this done by plenty of people, including myself.

[ Thursday, June 16, 2005 14:10: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Law Bringer
Member # 2984
Profile Homepage #41
quote:
Originally written by The Almighty Doer of Stuff:

quote:
Originally written by I'm also not Alorael:

So far JadeWolf's forum is doing okay, despite the fact that it only has about seven members that frequently participate. If you haven't at least looked at it, you should. Oh, and why was Polaris founded?
During the time of the Misc. mod elections, a bunch of conservatives (Logalot, Sir Motrax of Exile, and Enraged Slith) and Alorael became fed up with Desperance members ruling the Spidweb boards (a good number of them were moderators at the time, including Alec, Djur, Scorpius, Terror's Martyr, Saunders, and Drakefyre, IIRC). They decided to form a conspiracy to overthrow Desperance. This is despite the fact that at the time, Alorael also posted at Desperance, unless I am mistaken. My guess is he joined the conspiracy more for amusement than for anything else. Anyway, at one point, Scorpius posted a big banner on top of the Misc forums that said "ADoS IS A LAGOT, Love Scorpius & TM". The Polareans took this chance to get me to join. Sir Motrax of Exile sent me an IM and invited me to a chat room, where we decided on the name Polaris and hatched a plot. The first thing we did was get TM and Scorpius demodded for the offense. We also convinced Frahhamn to join our conspiracy, and sent him as a spy into Desperance (because the rest of us were too frightened of the place) to uncover their evil plans (of which they had none, of course). He was quickly found out and nobody really cared, except that the Despers used this failed espionage as a reason to make fun of us even more than they already were. On top of that, Frah decided he liked the place and stayed there for a while (although he eventually left). Anyway, at some point they started a message board on Invision. Eventually Polaris and Desperance forgot their differences and they get along now, for the most part.

"most" is the key word here. :P

Ironically, in spite of the "conservative" roots you mention, Polaris is now about or nearly as far left of center as Desperance, and notably more so than Spiderweb (Political Compass put SW at -4.4, -4.3 and Polaris at -5.8, -4.9). What differences remain are superficial.

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"Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft.
"I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #42
The real story of Polaris, which differs from ADoS' account mainly in order: Scorp put up a banner calling ADoS a lagot. Disgruntled people congregated in a chatroom, which eventually resulted in the email that got Scorp and TM (go figure) demodded, caused a great deal of anger, and led to the first of three (that I can remember) Misc. mod elections.

I recall no further details, but the first board was an Ezboard and it crashed my browser, so I bowed out after doing not a whole lot. I like conspiracies.

Polaris survived for no particular reason and picked up different people along the way. It also migrated to MyIB, Invision, a different Invision, and yet another Invision with some temporary boards in between.

—Alorael, who can't do anything on JadeWolf's forums because he won't register. He can, however, make life on Spiderweb unpleasant. He won't, though, because he doesn't really care about those forums.
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Guardian
Member # 3521
Profile #43
quote:
Originally written by Why?:

Ironically, in spite of the "conservative" roots you mention, Polaris is now about or nearly as far left of center as Desperance, and notably more so than Spiderweb (Political Compass put SW at -4.4, -4.3 and Polaris at -5.8, -4.9). What differences remain are superficial.
You know, I don't think the main division between Desperance and Polaris ever really had much to do with politics. It was more about a difference in what the two camps found acceptable- the Despers were wont to indulge in off-kilter humor and rougher language, while a lot of the Polaris types were a bit uptight and sensitive where such things were concerned.

Nowadays, differences in board atmosphere still exist- Polaris still has a snooty air to it, and things at Desp. can still get somewhat vulgar. It's all a matter of the sort of environment individuals prefer. I might prefer the feel of Desperance, but I understand that it's not for everyone. Which is why both forums exist, and will continue to exist.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Agent
Member # 5814
Profile #44
What happened? From ADoS's account, I would say that this board used to have a mafya vibe. Why would you ever let something as beautiful as that end? You would be able to look down on newer members such as myself.

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Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #45
When I come here, I want a nice place to relax. When I want mafia vibe, I go to forums for playing werewolf/mafia games. I could post links to a couple of them if you want. (I am assuming that by "mafia vibe" you mean the game "mafia" in which some players are mafia members and the rest are townspeople, who try to discover who among them are mafia members before being killed by them.)

[ Thursday, June 16, 2005 21:12: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Law Bringer
Member # 2984
Profile Homepage #46
Stughalf, if ADoS says Polaris had many conservative people at the start, it makes sense. Often, conservatives have tighter sensibilities, and when it started, they did have a rough time here. Later too; look at what happened in '03 during the "US Conflict Avatar" thread.1, 2.

Oh, and despite its political stance, Polaris does have members from all over the spectrum (Drakefyre, Firedrake, David, Motrax, formerly Rowen, to name just a few from the Right), and we do have civilized discussion for the most part.

quote:
Originally written by Formerly I:

What happened? From ADoS's account, I would say that this board used to have a mafya vibe. Why would you ever let something as beautiful as that end? You would be able to look down on newer members such as myself.
Times change. We still have our respective posses, but no more gang wars. We organize roleplays now. :)

[ Thursday, June 16, 2005 23:47: Message edited by: Why? ]

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The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki!
"Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft.
"I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik
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Shaper
Member # 5450
Profile Homepage #47
Aran, the link works, but at the top of the page it has all this info in what looks like German, or maybe Sweedish. Heres what it says:

Dies ist der Zwischenspeicher von G o o g l e für http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001036 ;p=2 nach dem Stand vom 16. Apr. 2004 17:32:02 GMT.
G o o g l es Cache enthält einen Schnappschuss der Webseite, der während des Webdurchgangs aufgenommenen wurde.
Unter Umständen wurde die Seite inzwischen verändert. Klicken Sie hier, um zur aktuellen Seite ohne Hervorhebungen zu gelangen.
Diese Seite im Cache bezieht sich eventuell auf Bilder, die nicht länger zur Verfügung stehen. Klicken Sie hier, um nur den Text im Cache anzuzeigen.
Um einen Link oder ein Bookmark zu dieser Seite herzustellen, benutzen Sie bitte die folgende URL:
edited for sanity

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Polaris
Posts: 2396 | Registered: Saturday, January 29 2005 08:00
Cartographer
Member # 1851
Profile Homepage #48
^ German, defnitely not Swedish.

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Posts: 1308 | Registered: Sunday, September 8 2002 07:00
Guardian
Member # 3521
Profile #49
quote:
Originally written by Why?:

Stughalf, if ADoS says Polaris had many conservative people at the start, it makes sense. Often, conservatives have tighter sensibilities, and when it started, they did have a rough time here. Later too; look at what happened in '03 during the "US Conflict Avatar" thread.1, 2.
I'm not denying what ADoS said regarding the initial composition of Polaris, and I'm fully aware that conservatives do tend towards uptight attitudes in general. But not all conservatives are overly sensitive, while plenty of liberals have just as much of a problem with vulgarity. It's more about this particular division than politics as a whole, which is what I was arguing. Polaris certainly has quite a bit of political diversity, but I'd wager that the majority of active members there have similar attitudes where rough language and imagery are concerned. That isn't meant as an attack, just as an observation.

As for the U.S. Conflict Avatars thread, I read through that entire thing a long time ago (I didn't get my reputation for thorough community research for nothing!). It's interesting, but not really indicative of any systematic oppression of conservatives or their views. If anything, it's a show of conservative irrationality, with SMoE going ape in general and forcing a thread lock.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
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