Wolfowitz to rule the World Bank?
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Agent
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written Friday, March 18 2005 11:14
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This wednesday, G.W.Bush picked the neocon Wolfowitz to be the new president of the World Bank. :( and we thought, he would calm a little bit in his second reign ... -------------------- ^ö^ vegetarians are sexy. Posts: 1420 | Registered: Wednesday, October 2 2002 07:00 |
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By Committee
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written Friday, March 18 2005 11:48
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I guess you missed his whole "I have a mandate - I have political capital, and I intend to spend it" press conference shortly after the start of his second term. Probably not a great thing for the developing world, but at least he's out of DoD. Posts: 2242 | Registered: Saturday, April 10 2004 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, March 18 2005 12:59
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Oh good now Americans can kill all the remaining poor people. It really is too bad Russia isn't still the power it was. Then they could kick some American-ass. I realise that its mostly G.W.B. and previous governments that kill millions worldwide. The fact remains however, that somehow these governments get elected. Lets replace **** with <S.A.P.> it's the same deal at least to the poor countries. -------------------- I stop rubber at 160km/h, five times a week. CANUCKS RESPEK! My Style The Knight Between Posts. Posts: 2395 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00 |
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By Committee
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written Friday, March 18 2005 13:37
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Dude, cool out. The Iraq war was a bad move, but I don't know that my government is going to "kill all the remaining poor people." I'm no fan of the current administration or Paul Wolfowitz's policies in general, but my government and nation aren't that wicked, and it's debatable how much total influence Wolfowitz would ultimately have as well as how effective the bank's been in its mission anyway. Do you know how the World Bank works? Learn about it here. [ Friday, March 18, 2005 13:39: Message edited by: andrew miller ] Posts: 2242 | Registered: Saturday, April 10 2004 07:00 |
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Bob's Big Date
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written Friday, March 18 2005 14:21
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It makes perfect sense to put an ex-member of the Democratic Socialists USA on a board position in one of the biggest leeches of third-world potential ever formulated by well-meaning people. -------------------- The biggest, the baddest, and the fattest. Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, March 18 2005 14:29
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quote:Wishing harm on innocent people doesn't solve anything. I and many others tried to get Bush out of office. We are not bad people because we have a bad leader. The people who did vote for Bush were scared ignorant people. Bush works hard to appeal to the uneducated, the impoverished, and the hard core religious types. After 911 American's decisions were based on fear and on threats of wars. To condemn a nation for blindly trying to defend themselves is in it self incredibly ignorant. -------------------- Nena Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, March 18 2005 14:52
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In the forum overview, the info next to General currently truncates the thread title thus: quote:It's barely relevant, but it made me freak out for a while there. :P -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, March 19 2005 09:47
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quote:I agree wholeheartedly. The whole US-nation is more than the people who voted and the elected administration. And that is why the individuals cannot be held responsible for the policy of the government. Even if the rate of Iraqis dying is higher under the US occupation than it was under Saddam and depleted Uranium ammo and cluster bombs result in environmental damage on years to come - individual US-citizen are not guilty, imho. quote:How long is such a blind rampage to last? Plans to invade Iraq were made long before 9/11. That bad guy with a moustache on the other side of the world talked as if he had an assault rifle and W. decided he would have to go. Then comes 9/11 and you first defend yourself blindly, i.e. stir the rubble in Afghanistan. Then while you are at it you remember the guy with the moustache and go after him under the pretext of self-defense. And afterwards you claim to be promoting democracy and freedom. From the ethical perspective, this is treacherous and evil. It would be farfetched to claim extenuating circumstances but, at the national level, there is no jurisdiction, the US would not accept any World Court, anyway. The more important perspective, however, is the trust other nations have in the US and this has just plummeted through all bottoms. It will take a generation to earn that trust again - after the US changes its present unilateralist and imperialist policies. I am afraid that will not happen before the US continues its decline into faschism. The American idol of freedom is probably discredited forever. BTW, the tactics of stabilizing ones rule by scaring one's people and waging war after staging a thread is very old... It never worked in the long run, however - fortunately. [ Saturday, March 19, 2005 09:58: Message edited by: No 2 Methylphenidate ] Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Saturday, March 19 2005 10:08
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This one is very hard to call... Wolfowitz is not in the military anymore ( a very good thing) . It might be a lot different than we would expect... It could be better, but then it could be a true disaster. At least we can expect that something will be done if only band aid measures. Wolfowitz is not likely to sit on his hands. -------------------- Wasting your time and mine looking for a good laugh. Star Bright, Star Light, Oh I Wish I May, I Wish Might, Wish For One Star Tonight. Posts: 1084 | Registered: Thursday, November 7 2002 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Saturday, March 19 2005 11:08
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I don't defend anything Bush did or is doing now, nor do I support or respect those who put him in office. I can only attempt to justify their actions. My comment was not to say that all should be forgiven or forgotten. The comment was that anger such as that of VCH only causes more war. The only place we ever belonged was Afghanistan, and Bush failed in his attempts there. The only reason he went to Iraq was for Bush senior. It was also to cover up his failure, and show the voters he was their protector and a strong leader. It was a personal war, and one we had no right to. There were no “weapons of mass destruction.” True Saddam needed to be taken out of power, but that should have been the end of our presence. Americans are known for imposing their will on other nations, such as Bush going aggenst the UN and starting a war. Many people died, that includes all those American solders. Many of them were very young and didn't want to be there. Between human nature of retaining bad feelings and brainwashing rampant in America it is no wander the world continues this path. [ Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:11: Message edited by: Dolphin ] -------------------- Nena Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Saturday, March 19 2005 16:34
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Europe reacted rather sceptical, also because Wolfowitz has no experience in banking business and development. What scares me: Bush started to put his hardliners in key positions of international organizations, first John Bolton into the United Nations, now PW into the World Bank. What's next? quote:Alec, forgive me my ignorance but what are you talking about? Who is ex- democrat? If this should have been a joke ... I didn't get it =_= -------------------- ^ö^ vegetarians are sexy. Posts: 1420 | Registered: Wednesday, October 2 2002 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Saturday, March 19 2005 18:25
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It is very bizarre. Wolfowitz has no experience in banking. Bolton hates the United Nations. The positions being filled seem to be more based on ideology than qualifications. What is more strange to me is the sudden pronouncements made by Bush every time an international event occurs-- there is instant PR spin. Lebanese protest-- we support the Lebanese, etc. Every choice is a giant media event. Why? -------------------- Wasting your time and mine looking for a good laugh. Star Bright, Star Light, Oh I Wish I May, I Wish Might, Wish For One Star Tonight. Posts: 1084 | Registered: Thursday, November 7 2002 08:00 |
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Bob's Big Date
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written Saturday, March 19 2005 19:34
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Paul Wolfowitz was a former member of the Democratic Socialists USA, who were anti-Soviet, imperialist hardliners who also happened to be socialists. A group of relatively important intellectuals who influenced the Democratic Party in bizzare ways, got appointed to all sorts of cabinet positions at various points, and have now mostly scattered to the winds. Of course, Wolfowitz isn't a socialist any more, and he was hardly democratic to begin with. The US is mostly throwing its weight around, and almost everyone outside of Bush's inner circle opposed nominations like Bolton's. Even Rice, known to be reasonably hawkish and standoffish, was leery about it, and tried to keep the man out of any power. Now he's second in US-UN policymaking, next to the President. Whee. -------------------- The biggest, the baddest, and the fattest. Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, March 20 2005 13:51
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I blame the extreme devotion to political parties that is so common in the USA. If political parties weren't so big maybe people would vote according to the quality of the presidential candidate instead of according to thier political party. -------------------- Important Information about Stuff Posts: 258 | Registered: Wednesday, March 9 2005 08:00 |
