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Drew
By Committee
Member # 4233
 written Friday, November 12 2004 10:33 Profile #50
quote:
Originally written by Arenax:

If we weren't backing Israel, every non-Muslim in that country would be dead.
Not true. Israel has already demonstrated its capacity to defend itself in the region. For example, it attacked Iraqi nuclear facilities at Osirak in 1981 on its own initiative.

Israel instead relies on the U.S. to legitimize its actions. I don't think, however, that a withdrawal of U.S. support would prevent Israel from doing what it feels it needs to do to defend itself.

[ Friday, November 12, 2004 10:36: Message edited by: Andrew Miller ]
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Arenax
Shock Trooper
Member # 5181
 written Friday, November 12 2004 12:18 Profile Homepage #51
During the Arab-Israeli wars, the Russians were coming pretty heavily down on Israel. The U.S. was propping them up. Even today, their IMI weaponry notwithstanding, most of their tech is either straight from the U.S. military or derivatives of U.S. work.

They supply the men, we give 'em the toys.
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Custer
Bob's Big Date
Member # 3151
 written Friday, November 12 2004 12:37 Profile Homepage #52
The problem with that is that Israel has been self-sufficient in military terms for decades, and is especially so now. Egypt and Israel have made peace, and Iraq is no longer any kind of threat; that means that both the numbers and the technology which have made Israel's external enemies dangerous are now no longer on those enemies' side.

The country can readily defeat any plausible invasion; the Soviets aren't exactly aiding the Arab bloc any more. The only real purpose served by unconditional US support is legitimizing Israel's internal policies, which is an especially shaky proposition if it's not linked to a moral condition and puts us in a lot of gunsights any which way.

[ Friday, November 12, 2004 12:38: Message edited by: Fear Uncertainty and Custer ]

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