Pratchettian Mathematics

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Master Jeweller
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I read a set of similar questions once, where the given sequence was along
the lines of
1, 2, 3, 4, 5
and the next number was not 6 for whatever reason. Some of them were
quite ingenious.
But of course Khoth's answer would work as well. I'm in favor of 42.

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How about this one.

1 2 3 5 8 4 3 7 1? It's cyclical by the way.

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The next is 8 ...

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As most of you probably know, the equation
X^2 + Y^2 = R
represents a circle.
Can you think of a variation of this formula that represents a square?

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It's x²+y² = r². If you write r you have to write a sqare root over the other side.

As far as I can see, it doesn't represent a circle, but the distance from the origin to the point (X,Y). Of course, this distance can mean the radius of a circle with the origin as center and (x,y) on the perimeter.

But you can use this formula also to calculate the diagonal of a rectangle with corners on the origin and (x,y).

So it isn't limited to circles.

[ Wednesday, September 24, 2003 00:53: Message edited by: Arancaytar ]

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lim{n-->inf}(x^n + y^n = z^n) does a square, I think.

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Khoth -> exactly.

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arancayter: I do not have my notes with me, but it looks like the series of the second to last place of the decimals of 3/4, 7/8,15/16,31/32.

if it isn't, that is still a pretty cool series.
lessee,
.5
.75
.875
.9375
.96875
.984375
.9921875
.99609375
.998046875

ok, so it is not. the serieses are 5; 7; 3,8;6,4,1,9; and so on.

and no, radiant, it is not a list like that.

)This post brought to you by anal-retentive mathematics.

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Khoth: "x^n+y^n=z^n" has no solutions in integers for "n" being equal to or greater than 3. IMAGE(Spiderweb Software Boards Pratchettian Mathematics (3)_files/biggrin.gif)

GET IT?!?

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wtf are you guys talking about?

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Triad Mage
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Math. Is that a novel concept?

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quote:
Originally written by Xan Kreigor:

Khoth: "x^n+y^n=z^n" has no solutions in integers for "n" being equal to or greater than 3. IMAGE(Spiderweb Software Boards Pratchettian Mathematics (3)_files/biggrin.gif)

GET IT?!?

Who said anything about integers? The idea is that you set z to be some constant whose value depends on the size of the circle (or, in this case, square) you want.
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Actually there are a few points which will always be on that line. (0,z)(z,0). Depending on which number n is, those z's could be plus or minus as well.

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The series is actually made by adding the last two elements, but taking only the cross sum of the result to keep it to one digit.

So,

2+3=5
3+5=8
5+8=13, 1+3=4
8+4=12, 1+2=3
4+3=7
3+7=1
7+1=8
1+8=9
8+9=17, 1+7=8

and so on.

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Fibonacci may not appreciate you toying with his number system IMAGE(Spiderweb Software Boards Pratchettian Mathematics (3)_files/tongue.gif)

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He's dead though, so what can he do about it?

IMAGE(Spiderweb Software Boards Pratchettian Mathematics (3)_files/tongue.gif)

The cross sum is just in order to keep it cyclical of course. Btw, if you start such a sequence with any two digits from 1,1 to 9,8, you only get four different sequences (the fifth would contain only 9,9,9,9 etc.). All of those sequences, with one exception, turn back on themselves after an equal number of elements. The exception is 3,6,9,6,6,3,6,9, etc. I haven't yet figured out why that is so... IMAGE(Spiderweb Software Boards Pratchettian Mathematics (3)_files/confused.gif)

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His Flashing eyes, his Floating hair!" S. T. Coleridge
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"It is as if everyone had lost their sense
Consigned themselves to downfall and decadence
And a wisp it is they have chosen as their beacon." Reinhard Mey.
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Quote of the Week: "I have a high opinion of myself, which makes up for my total lack of intelligence." Anon.
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edit: elfy (heh heh) it is because all numbers are special in their own special way. especialy the numbers 0,1,pi,e, and i. and two.

people from time to time mention new math, supposedly invented by a prisoner. I've always thought that they were just being ignorant. does anyone know anything about this?

)this post brought to you by the sigma function- results of a lazy tutor and a very smart student. and the number at the far end of pi.

[ Monday, September 29, 2003 09:04: Message edited by: @$$ ]

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