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Is there a way around my editing blunder? in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #6
quote:
Originally written by Drakefyre:

If you use the editor to leave town, you can then use it to return to the start.
I don't understand what you mean. I'm not in town now. I'm in the beginning of part 2 below many waterfalls. Could you explain?

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Is there a way around my editing blunder? in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #2
quote:
Originally written by The High King's Logomach:

I believe the E2 editor allows you both to return your party to start (should work out of town) and to return the boat in Chapter 2 to the place it started. If the editor's not working then you have problems.

—Alorael, who thinks there already may be some data corruption. Ice hydras should not be invisible. Are you sure you aren't being hit by hydra breath from off screen?

It DID allow me to return the boat but will NOT permit me to return my party. I think it says I can't do so because I'm indoors or something close to that.
About what was hitting me, I thought the message kept saying Ice Hydra. Whatever it is, I could not see it for some reason and it affected every member of my party like an AOE spell.

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Is there a way around my editing blunder? in The Exile Trilogy
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Profile #0
I went into Chapter 2 prematurely. When I got down to the bottom of many waterfalls, ultimately I kept getting hit by an Ice Hydra that I could not see. ?Invis?
I wanted out of Chapter 2 realizing I went there too soon. I recalled the boat and then tried to recall my party but was told I could not do so indoors.
I went to my prior saved game and the boat was gone there too! (Game was saved about an hour earlier than the edited save)
Is there anyway I can fix this short of going to a really old save like from days ago?
SIGH
How

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #61
quote:
Originally written by ef:

One of your characters has been dumbfounded. Your fighters won't show much reaction to that, but your mage/priest loses the ability to cast higher level spells for a while. It wears off after some time.

As your priest gains levels, he will get access to a mind curing spell.

TY Ef. Is there a chart that explains these symbols?

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How786

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
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Profile #59
What does it mean when a "?" appears under the name of one of my party on the main "party stats" screen?
Only one guy has that.

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #54
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

In E2 the route to Formello is easier if you follow the road east from Fort Draco past Tor's Farm (a source of easy experience) and then go south as soon as you can. There aren't as many dangerous encounters as along the southern route. You don't have the money to buy a boat yet to avoid random encounters.

Nioca - ask for Fenwick if you want to talk to the oldest gamer on the board. At least he is from what I've seen since he's about 60.

Right now I'm in the Neph Castle fighting my way around.
BTW, what's the story with weight of things you carry and encumberance? I don't see any stats. Or, can I carry whatever I can?

[ Friday, October 27, 2006 20:33: Message edited by: How ]

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #48
quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Nioca, are you paying attention? The next time you create an age poll, be sure to break up the adult categories into very small sections. The adults want bragging rights!

Dikiyoba means no offense or disrespect, of course.

LOL.

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #46
quote:
Originally written by The Mystic:

quote:
Originally written by Zeviz:

The only other thing I can think of is that, if I remember correctly, Item Lore is checked when the item is generated. So increasing it afterwards will have no effect on the items already in your inventory. (I don't remember whether and how Item Lore affects the items that are already in the room before you kill anything.)
The only time Item Lore is checked is when a monster drops an item, and increasing it doesn't affect your inventory at all (unless you're playing the Avernum series, where it identifies your items as it increases). Item Lore has no effect on items already in the room.

quote:
Originally written by Pope John XX:

Perhaps dropping and then picking up the items would work?
It doesn't work; trust me. I tried that trick eight years ago, when I was a noob.
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

You're still 16 years younger than me.
Nice to know I'm not the oldest one here (not that it actually matters in the grand scheme of things), but so far every other birthdate I've seen in people's profiles has been at least a decade after mine. Then again, talking about one's age here is way off topic, so I'm just gong to drop it from here on out (edit: and suggest others follow suit).

Even new items I pick up are rarely IDs with a totaly party lore of 60.
I've no doubt that I am the oldest gamer here, probably by far.
(I've got 7 kids 4 of whom are doctors already.)

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #41
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

Item lore doesn't work too well in a beginning party. The worst is finding that an items value is below the identification cost. You can use save, try, remove, and reload to find out if the items are cursed.

quote:
Originally written by the Mystic:

and being kind of the "old man" around here (at least in terms of age--check my profile to see what I mean)
You're still 16 years younger than me.

Just where do I head from Draco area to find someone to ID my items?

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How786

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
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Profile #38
Interesting thoughts and suggestions. By the way, I'm speaking of common items like leathers armor, spears etc, nothing rare.
Dropping and picking up items did not work.
Most of the weapons and armor in my inventory show no value when I try to sell them to the armor or weapon dealer in Draco. I guess I'll learn more when I get further into the game.

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #33
quote:
Originally written by Zeviz:

quote:
Originally written by How:

quote:
Originally written by Thahd Lemonade:

The problem is that Item Lore is so expensive, in gold but mainly in skill points. At FOUR skill points per point of Item Lore, it's easily the game's worst value. (Well, maybe it's better than buying Health directly.) Item Lore is a relatively small convenience, for which you are willing to give up 2 points of Edged Weapons, or 1 1/3 points of Intelligence? Or most of a point in Luck or Priest Spells? Absurd.

I have sometimes edited 10 points into my singleton games, just to make monster drops less than totally useless.

I just got the registered copy. I raised everyone's Item Lore to 8 as a test and still, several items are not being identified by the party. Very bizarre. It would seem that the stat is useless if it doesn't work with a total party lore of 48. And, I'm talking about low level items still showing up with a ?

Those items are probably cursed. It usually takes much higher levels of Item Lore to identify cursed items than to identify normal, or slightly blessed ones.

No. Not cursed, trust me. I just maxxed Lore on my entire party and still some items show up with question marks.

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
Member # 7580
Profile #31
quote:
Originally written by Thahd Lemonade:

The problem is that Item Lore is so expensive, in gold but mainly in skill points. At FOUR skill points per point of Item Lore, it's easily the game's worst value. (Well, maybe it's better than buying Health directly.) Item Lore is a relatively small convenience, for which you are willing to give up 2 points of Edged Weapons, or 1 1/3 points of Intelligence? Or most of a point in Luck or Priest Spells? Absurd.

I have sometimes edited 10 points into my singleton games, just to make monster drops less than totally useless.

I just got the registered copy. I raised everyone's Item Lore to 8 as a test and still, several items are not being identified by the party. Very bizarre. It would seem that the stat is useless if it doesn't work with a total party lore of 48. And, I'm talking about low level items still showing up with a ?

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
Member # 7580
Profile #24
quote:
Originally written by The Mystic:

quote:
Originally written by ef:

edit: The Mystic was faster
I was? That's weird, because I'm not known for speed.

quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

Also, you can only sell items that have been identified.
Thanks for the reminder; I forgot all about that! I haven't played the Exile/Avernum series games for a while, and being kind of the "old man" around here (at least in terms of age--check my profile to see what I mean), sometimes my brain doesn't work right. I also have a VERY old-school RPG that I went back to for a while, where you don't necessarily need stuff identified to sell it.
quote:
Originally written by How:

I don't mean to be such a noob about these matters.
No problem, we've all been there. Unlike you, I didn't know about this forum at the time, and had to learn everything on my own. I'm just glad I got the hint books when I registered, or I'd still be somewhat lost.

Yeah..I did register and pay for the CD and hint book a few days ago. I guess it's otw. I love supporting such fine independant work! These guys deserve every penny.

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How786

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #20
Thanks for the continued useful advice guys! I don't mean to be such a noob about these matters. I've just really been puzzled.

[ Wednesday, October 25, 2006 00:48: Message edited by: How ]

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
Member # 7580
Profile #17
quote:
Originally written by SkrOH:

Are you sure you've identified them? Yes, you have to identify things as boring as ordinary arms and armor if you don't have much Item Lore.

—Alorael, who hopes you don't mind losing a few gold on every identification before making any profit whatsoever.

I believe that is the problem. I'd given several of my party of 6, 1 level of Item Lore but I guess not enuf. How many must have it for me to ID these simple items? Also, I don't remember seeing anyone in Draco who can ID things.
SIGH
A bit frustrated.........
Thanks for your help, tho.

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #15
quote:
Originally written by ef:

Some shops will only sell and not buy, some only buy the kind of stuff they sell (if they sell weapons, they'll buy weapons from you, but not armour), some buy all the stuff you have. There should be two shops keepers close to the trainer in Fort Draco who'll buy weapons and armour from you, for everything else you'll have to wait until you reach Formello.

edit: The Mystic was faster

Thanks EF. I've been there but they don't seem to want much of the basic weapons/armor that I've found and would like to sell. At least, no value shows up next to those items when I click on SELL. Am I missing something or doing something wrong?

[ Tuesday, October 24, 2006 19:23: Message edited by: How ]

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #11
quote:
Originally written by The Mystic:

quote:
Originally written by How:

That sux. I know that trainer in Draco. Tho he isn't terribly expensive,but early on it is costly. Used all my coin to train 5/6 guys.
Strange to have to pay to train when ine levels.

Ever hear of scavenging to get cash? When I need money in any Exile game, I'll take anything that I can (even by stealing) and sell it. Therefore, my coin purse runneth over, and I rarely need money.

Hear ya but I find that most of the items I get have no value at shops. Can't sell them.
<S>

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
Member # 7580
Profile #9
quote:
Originally written by ef:

How, when Alorael asked you to edit your posts, he didn't mean that you'd have to delete previous content and edit in new content all the time. He was just asking you not to doublepost. There are very young members on this board who'd probably triple- and quadruplepost without thinking much about it, if the mods didn't insist on editing.
Gotcha. Thanks.

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
Member # 7580
Profile #4
quote:
Originally written by ef:

You need a trainer to increase your skills. There's one in Fort Draco who, for a small fee, does offer that service to you. I've forgotten how E2 handles the procedure. If it is the same as in E1, ask 'train' and a menue pops up that lets you choose the character you want to buy the training for. Alternatively you can just click on 'buy' in the dialogue window.

Not every town offers training, just as not every town has a sage who identifies your stuff, or a fletcher to get new arrows, or an alchemist to stock up on potions.

edit: seems you found out on your own while I got me a coffee, but I let the post stand as it is :)

That sux. I know that trainer in Draco. Tho he isn't terribly expensive,but early on it is costly. Used all my coin to train 5/6 guys.
Strange to have to pay to train when ine levels.

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
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Profile #2
[ Sunday, October 22, 2006 23:42: Message edited by: How ]

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How to raise skills when level. in The Exile Trilogy
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Can't seem to find the menu that allows me to use my available skill points.
(E2)

[ Sunday, October 22, 2006 23:42: Message edited by: How ]

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What affects success of stealing an item? in The Exile Trilogy
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Profile #5
Web worked well. TY Thuryl.

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What affects success of stealing an item? in The Exile Trilogy
Warrior
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Profile #2
quote:
Originally written by *i:

Nobody seeing you do it.
OK. Now what will lower the chances of being seen when someone is in the room?

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What affects success of stealing an item? in The Exile Trilogy
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Profile #0
I'm trying to steal the Steel Sabre in Fort Draco.
What will increase the chances of success? (E2)

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Which game to play? in General
Warrior
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Profile #70
quote:
Originally written by Enraged Slith:

Archery is good for taking out spellcasters (pesky in long battles) and weak-armored units. Giving your character skill in poison and then poisoning your arrows works well too.
Thanks. Poison arrows must be nasty against casters. How much in archery is needed to make it useful?

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