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The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Wednesday, October 17 2007 17:02 Profile #94 quote: Originally written by The Almighty Do-er of Stuff: quote: 12. Does "our race has many superior qualities" refer to my particular race or the human race? "Race" can only refer to the human race or to one of its subdivisions. The proposition, in comparing one's race with other races, can therefore only be referring to the latter. Like I noted on page 1, I do not interpret the question as the author(s) predicted. Having been dragged into discussion by Zeviz, I find he has used the "it is because it is" argument without coming to terms with the fact that the question does not state that one particular race is superior over others, which is vastly different than deciding that ones own race, whatever that may be, has qualities that oneself feels are superior. I agree that the question is poorly written and ambiguous. Had it been written "I believe that my own race is superior," my answer would have been different and the discussion would have looked at another poorly written question instead, especially as most Americans (I hope) do not see their skin color as being the cultural determinant of submission or domination as was so prevalent prior to the mid-1900's. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Wednesday, October 17 2007 09:15 Profile #218 quote: Originally written by The Nondescript Man: quote: Originally written by Ballad: quote: Originally written by The Nondescript Man: I am neither Emperor Tullegolar nor Ed. Are you the Honky Tonk Man? The Walrus? The Long and Winding Road? I am mildly irritated. ELVIS!!!! -------------------- Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Argon - "I'm at a loss for words..." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
1 in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Wednesday, October 17 2007 08:29 Profile #106 Ergo, :\|\|.. and ;\|\|,. In Conclusion, <;)}}}>< Edit. Gramaticons... [ Wednesday, October 17, 2007 08:29: Message edited by: Jumpin' Salmon ] -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Tuesday, October 16 2007 18:02 Profile #88 Heh. If you look back to my "Heil me" line, it was preceded by your assertion that Nazi Germany held the position that people with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce. I have nothing more to add to that than this clarification. You racist pig! How dare you assume that "our race" refers to white or black or oriental? I naturally assumed that people of all races would be answering that question, and would feel good enough about themselves that they would see all the positive about themselves, and not have to be reduced into negative comparisons. I think it is pretty fantastic what our race can do. Try making a short list. Or a long list. It would take forever. You assume that because I feel my race has superior qualities that I either am saying other races have inferior qualities, or that I am even comparing to other races, and neither of those assumptions is true. Obey authority is completely different than accept discipline. The mental fortitude to take a dressing down without collapsing into a heap of despair is a "good thing." Knowing that a verbal reproach is not the end of the world, and realizing that a change in behavior is all that is required is a "valuable asset." Accepting discipline is crucial. You can not dissuade me, and I don't feel that it has anything to do with being authoritarian or libertarian. Re: your PS, that is something that you hadn't made clear, at least to me, until just then. I had thought you were saying the opposite in fact. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Tuesday, October 16 2007 14:38 Profile #86 quote: Originally written by Zeviz: I think you are still missing my point. Nope, I stand by my point, which is that you are interpreting the questions a lot differently than me. You are forcing them to be ultra-[stance] and ignoring the fact that, as Dintiradan pointed out, they really aren't so extreme. I'm not going to take the test again in order to sample various response-score scenarios, since I simply don't care enough. I do find it interesting though that while some people take the test extremely serious, quite a few just see it as a lark. I wonder which set of people receive scores that are more closely aligned to their deep-seated beliefs. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Tuesday, October 16 2007 13:05 Profile #83 quote: Originally written by Zeviz: We have: - "I'd always support my country, whether it was right or wrong" (3rd reich anyone?) - "our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races" (this is as explicitly racist as you can get) - "All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind." (YAY4 segregation) - "The most important thing for children to learn is to accept discipline." (Even if discipline is high on your list, few people would call it the most important. For example, religious people would consider belief in god more important than "discipline" in general.) And so on. There are similar examples of extreme conservative positions in social and religious areas, but the list is already too long. Man, either your backround lets you read too much into these questions, or mine just is completely vacant. The nationalism question is not about Nazi Germany, it is about the Bush presidency and his mantra of "you are either with me, or against me." Our race does have many superior qualities. I think it is a great race. I'm sure all races think they have superior qualities. I don't think that there is a better race overall, or that there is any sort of hierarchy. Does that make any sense to you? Umm. Not sure I completely disagree with you on the "segregation" question, but people do have a pretty strong desire to hang out with people that have similar interests. That would be the whole basis for Comicon, for example. I realize that is a fairly sparse example, but I'm pretty okay with the idea of nudists existing, but not in the same place where I do my grocery shopping. :P I agreed that the most important thing for a child to learn was to accept discipline. Not a beating, or abuse, but actual discipline. There is nothing wrong with discipline, and quite frankly not enough of it in society today. In short, I really do think your worldview has colored your perception of these word meanings, and has created an interpretation which is very skewed. Is there a chance? -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Tuesday, October 16 2007 11:26 Profile #81 quote: Originally written by Zeviz: So a mildly liberal person taking this test would agree with all "liberal" positions and reject all "conservative" ones. While a mildly conservative person would reject some of "conservative" propositions in addition to the liberal ones, ending up with a more "liberal" score. Umm. Well, I actually voted in line with Nazi Germany then. Heil me. Could you explain what you mean by the mild conservative ending up with a more liberal score? I guess (per our /clan conversation) that I've moderated somewhat in my view and don't take a strictly liberal or conservative view. Particularly on this test, it is sometimes easy to look at the questions in isolation and answer according to how you view that issue within your perfect world context. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Tuesday, October 16 2007 10:51 Profile #78 You confused both Diki and me? :confused: -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Tuesday, October 16 2007 10:05 Profile #75 quote: Originally written by Zeviz: One issue is that "liberal" propositions are less liberal than "conservative" questions are conservative. For example, the question about legalizing drugs asks only about pot, instead of legalizing all drugs. Similarly, the questions about alternative lifestyles ask only about homosexuality, instead of furries, S&M, and other things people might find more objectionable. On the conservative side, however, we have eugenics, outright racism, and other views that are strongly condemned by most of society. I feel condemned to respond to this. The reason the test questions are there is because they are relevant to society today. There is no furry legislation, or open discussions about eugenics. They may exist as one end of a spectrum, but they just.aren't.relevant. The fact that members of this community associate with the lower left quadrant is a factor of this community, not of society as a whole. I'm certain that you could ask the same set of questions in other communities and aggregate into a completely different quadrant. And new page. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Well, how can I know these answers? in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Tuesday, October 16 2007 09:39 Profile #18 quote: Originally written by A can of muffin soup.: 6. Has anyone been able to run around General with some sanity for 30min when the fluffy turtles are hungry and survived? Not an actual place, so by asking the question you demonstrate that you have nothing to fear from Inspector Peanut and colleagues. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, October 15 2007 23:12 Profile #69 I just wish Canada would solve that whole "freakishly cold winters" thing. I mean really, you've had enough time. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, October 15 2007 20:30 Profile #67 The ONLY reason that Clinton was elected was because he was a people person. He played the sax, was "cool," and was likable. That is the same reason Bush was elected, except for the sax thing. As far as doing a good job once elected, well we can easily tell the difference between the two. Actually, maybe we can't, since both got us entangled in overseas crapola, faced terrorism and never brought the culprit(s) to justice, and displeased large segments of the American and world population. For me, I want to see the dEmocrats nominate a likable person that has the foresight and intellect to keep their far-reaching agenda under wraps until after the election. I mean, I trust that some goofball won't get elected. But I know how the mind works. Getting elected President is no guarantee that you will do a good job, and a guarantee of a good Presidency won't get you elected. Edit - Leaving out essential words is bad for readers. [ Monday, October 15, 2007 20:32: Message edited by: Jumpin' Salmon ] -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, October 15 2007 17:38 Profile #61 quote: Yeah, but does he really radiate "Winner" to you? I don't think that Edwards has either (a) the experience necessary in an executive capacity (Obama has this problem as well), or (b) the charisma to pull the election off. He's just not a heavy hitter. . .. ... What part of George W Bush cries out "I can turn around your country"? The President is a puppet toy of the VP, always has been.[/ludicrous and un-documented statement] We, the people, elect people that we LIKE! I don't like Hillary or Obama. I don't want to sit down and watch a Sox game with them. Edwards seems ... dumber, and more approachable. That is the quality that gets people elected in a country where American Idol is more newsy than Mogadishu or Darfur. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Well, how can I know these answers? in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, October 15 2007 16:13 Profile #15 Check the seamy underbelly... -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, October 15 2007 16:12 Profile #58 Neither would be good choices for the dEmo party. Try Edwards again, he did well last time and is from the south. Where, oh where, is Carville when you need him? -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, October 15 2007 14:49 Profile #56 I think your misapplicating my confundarisms. Hillary is not electable to the Presidency of the USA. Aside from her relationship with a past President, her policy positions are at odds with what gets people into the White House. Nice gal, got nothing against her, met her once. But she will never (mental note to save this link) become President. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, October 15 2007 13:43 Profile #54 If the Democratic Party choses to nominate Hillary, there will be four more years of a Republican president. But that is the downfall of that party, nominating folks that aren't attractive to the moderate or liberal Republicans. The Republican Party figured it out with Bush. Nominate a guy that you can picture beating in darts, and he will be elected. Politics = :confused: + :eek: + :rolleyes: / :mad: -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Sanity pile near door in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, October 15 2007 11:02 Profile #41 + = ... Any questions? -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Book or Movie? in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, October 15 2007 10:44 Profile #46 quote: Originally written by Dikiyoba: Alas, Dikiyoba has no examples to give. I would contribute examples, but the Dikiyoba would have to punch me. Edit - For the sake of argument, assume I had to edit because I actually provided examples, and then later on (like, immediately) was forcefully reminded just how close I was getting to that proverbial edge, and removed said hypothetical examples. 'Nuf. [ Monday, October 15, 2007 10:49: Message edited by: Jumpin' Salmon ] -------------------- Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
...and again. in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, October 15 2007 10:36 Profile #14 A Canuck friend of mine tells me that the RCAC is basically a high school military indoctrination program which trains youth in the merits of good citizen ships by dangling the carrot of seemingly important levels and badges until they are so far in the depths of boring that there is no escape. Sorta like Boy Scouts, but they don't do any community service projects. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Thankgiving Census in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Saturday, October 13 2007 22:25 Profile #23 You don't have turkey and you are laughing at us??? Dang, that ain't right! -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Book or Movie? in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Saturday, October 13 2007 17:23 Profile #27 It encouraged Crichton to continue. Ick. -------------------- Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
1 in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Saturday, October 13 2007 14:55 Profile #76 I personally think that member # 7557 is being a complete idiot about this whole thing, but I would hope that people honor his/her request to not be called Nija. We have established a tradition of respecting this sort of request back when Nicothodes made the request to not be referred to as "cute." Thanks. .>,!=\|,<. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Friday, October 12 2007 22:40 Profile #46 We can't all be Maggie Thatchers. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Political Compass (Armed and Dangerous) in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Friday, October 12 2007 18:10 Profile #39 Have you even bothered to try Pakistani Cave Coca-cola? I think you are just painting with that broad stereotyping brush and have lumped a superior beverage in with that lesser stateside drink which shares the name. -------------------- Vogel - "10% off on all of [our] products for the month of October. ... this discount applies to games, CDs, bundles, and even already discounted products." Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Thralni - "a lot of people are ... too weird to be trusted" Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00

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