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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:


Er, and Razor? Even if you dye your skin, you'd have to reshape your skull in order to pretend to be black or Asian

Yes you would you would have to do many things. But if a man can change his sex he can change his race.

As Swap your title for my said "Michael Jackson. Enough said."
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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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quote:
Originally written by Imban:

If you are born white, you are always white.

If you are born a Christian, you are not necessarily always a Christian. Personal belief vs. state of being. End of story.

Wrong, I do not have to be white I can dye my skin and act like some one form another race. (or even sex) Being white is a state of mind.
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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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quote:
Originally written by Andrea:

That's a faulty comparison. Being white is not a philosophy or religion, it is a state. It doesn't suggest any philosophy, whereas being a fundamentalist Christian does.
No it is not, A Christian is a person and is part of a group of people. A White is a person and is part of a group of people. So the comparison is fine. On an individual level a White persons "philosophy or religion" is his culture, if he was Black he would have a different culture, he would have been raised differently, he would think differently. This is no different from being a Christian or a Morman or any thing else.
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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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quote:
Originally written by wz. arsics:

Sorry, but that statement annoys me. Homosexuality is not a system of beliefs. People do not choose to be gay. Nor can you generalize and say that they are great people or not. They vary just like any other people; straight, bi, whatever. You can find any number of gay people with one set of beliefs, and as many or more with a different set. There are tolerant homosexuals, and fundamentalist christian homosexuals.

I'm not sure if I expressed what I wanted to say eloquently enough, but I hope you can get the gist of it.

I see where you are coming from, I only use the word "belief" for the sake of the argument. But, Gays are generally nice people, at least all the ones I have known were.

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Originally written by Andrea:

The point I'm making is that your God is a bloody-minded, petty god, and if he exists, I'm not having any part of the worship of such an evil entity.

Ask Matthew Shepherd what harm fundamentalism has caused. Ask the 12,000 innocents dead in Afghanistan and the thousands in Iraq. Ask the Jews of Europe -- and, for that matter, the Arabs of Palestine. Ask the innocents of the Children's Crusade and those slaughtered by the Seljuk Turks.

Fundamentalism in all religion is a scourge. An ergot of humanity.

Following that White people are a scourge that should be eradicated. Ask all the Jews that were victims of a white man named Hitler, or all the ethnic minorities that are victim of the KKK. And how about Joseph Stalin, who is responsible for the deaths of millions of his own people through famine and purges.

White People are an evil race that seek nothing but destruction, and death. They are an ergot of humanity.

Note: I am White. :rolleyes:
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quote:
Originally written by Andrea:

I have no problem with Christians. I have a problem with their religion which is, as I have stated, generally an insidious and terrible force. This is true of the other Abrahamic religions as well. Most other religions are as bad, truthfully.
That is how I feel about Gays. They are great people. (I know because I am related to a gay couple) I just do not agree with their beliefs.

A better topic IMHO would have been what do you think of Gays? Because it is obvious most religions hate it. And because it just makes it easy to use religion as an easy out. i.e. I don't like Gays because, Uhh.... Well my religion says it's bad. Lets think for our self's, hmm?

Note: I'm not saying any of y'all used religion as an easy out. I'm just saying some people do.
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I have a question for y'all you seem so tolerant of every one, but Christians. Why is that? Do you really think we are that bad?

quote:
Originally written by Sir Alexander:

Please read things more carefully, Kel said it was in Leviticus not Acts.
I sould have gona to bed and not posted. IMAGE(wink0001.gif) My bible does have that verse in it.

[ Monday, June 28, 2004 07:28: Message edited by: Razor ]
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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:


but it has that one verse about homosexuality that is kinda funky. And it's pretty clearly aimed at everyone: "For whoever commits any of these abominations, the persons who commit them shall be cut off from among their people" (18:29) and so on.

Unfortunately my bible does not have that verse in it. (I'm using a KJV) It is Acts 18:29 right?

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Originally written by Kelandon:

I s'pose one could take the viewpoint that the Bible as we have it now has been revised by human hands a few dozens times and is therefore corrupted from its original "work of God" status -- thus giving us the weirdnesses that literal interpretation entail.
Yes, that is a problem many people face that is why I encourage every one that has any questions with the bible to look it up in it original Greek or Hebrew. Obviously most people can not read Greek or Hebrew (I know I can't) but they have bibles out there that translate it word for word from Greek/Hebrew into English for the purpose of study reference. I'm trying to find an online one so I can post the link here, but so far no luck...

Hope that all came out right, and y'all could understand it, I should go to bed... It's been a loooooong day... Be back sooon.... Need res.....
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Michael Moore - Unfairenheit 9/11 in General
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Profile #5
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Originally written by *Sound Effect*:

His movie is selling out in theatres across the country.
People need something to laugh at. IMAGE(wink0000.gif)

I don't like him. (in case you could'int tell)
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How to get skill points or fine lockpicks? (VODT) in Blades of Avernum
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Originally written by were244:

Well about the kids.... I do not either. But sometimes those women are monsters! I don't kill the GIFTS or Erika either.
I never said I would'int kill the women just that I did'int like it. :P But I would never kill Erika shes cool.
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How to get skill points or fine lockpicks? (VODT) in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally written by were244:

EDIT: Well I'm glad I'm not alone when I kill the villagers, but I only do it after I beat the game. Nice to meet you Razor.
Same here, But I Don't like killing the women and kids. That makes me feel to guilty. (I'm a big softy) Nice to meet you as well.
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BoA Music? in General
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USMC cadences. (I'm a freak I know IMAGE(tongue00.gif) )
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How to get skill points or fine lockpicks? (VODT) in Blades of Avernum
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If your feeling evil you could kill the villagers in the towns for the xp.
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