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Well, here is the premise: What if another author had written of Exile? Maybe Shakespeare, or Steinbeck, or even Dr Seuess...

As an idea here's Mickey Spillane...

I was in my office in Formello, yes the bad part of town is where I usually hang my hat. I had been out of luck for jobs lately and hitting the bottle a little too hard. Well, I had just poured a glass of ale when she walked in. Every bad story begins with a dame, why should this one be different? She had a red dress on and had legs to make a bishop lose his vows. I offered her a drink and offered her a seat.

"My name's Velma", she said in a soothing purr. "You might know me; I'm the mayor here." I didn't know but made a note to get more involved in politics in the future.

"What can I do for you?" I asked.

She shifted in her chair and said "My necklace, someone's stolen it. Can you help?"

It could be an interesting idea, if we get creative....

Tor: Do you like green eggs and ham?
Adventurers: We do not like green eggs and ham
We do not like them with a Slith, we do not like them with the Nephil. We do not like them Tor I Am.

I'll see if anyone takes up the idea...

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
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1. Invisibility--obviously the choice that would produce the most fun!

2. The ability to destroy men's minds with faulty syllogisms! Go to M$ and use: "If pc's are computers, and macs are computers, then pc's are macs."

3. Name, hmmmm, either Louie the Logic Lemming or William Schmiegelmeyer.

[ Tuesday, June 24, 2003 04:48: Message edited by: Flavius ]

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
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RP's may not spell instant doom in themselves. There is however, one particpant in particular who could easily drive any RP, no matter how well crafted, into utter chaos in short order.

I agree however that the initial post should contain more background and some parameters to be followed. This would help a great deal. Then the trick is keeping out (veiled naming) a warm wind that causes great storms and tries to battle a stiff breeze and the subsequent god-like characters. There are others perhaps, but the one referenced is usually the beginning of the end.

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
Mac users REALLY ought to see their website right about now... in General
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Profile #7
Goodness gracious Order Mage!! It **IS** a mac. Go here: Click me Order Mage!!

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
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I thought the same; that it is some from here getting "even" in their own twisted way. The example you quoted of the possible why is appropos and there are many examples like it. I tried to get him to be more considerate as did others.

xxo: Good job with your parts on the site. I know you are trying to help him. The "ninja" posts will stop after a while. They'll get tired of it.

John

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
Grad 2003!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in General
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Profile #61
Its a hard call. Legalising some of the drugs would also cut back on some crime and, if controlled, would stabilize the pricing. Think of the boon to taxes if the feds legalised pot! Though I do not use, nor advocate its use, there are some benefits in the mix.

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
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Aggreed on the point of the ninja invasion to Zephyr's boards. I was kind of hoping he'd be successful and, well, post there instead :P

[Edit] I just took another look at FB's boards. They have gotten worse since this morning. Somebody is being quite nasty to FB which really is not cool either.

[ Monday, June 23, 2003 10:24: Message edited by: Flavius ]

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
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Thanks Ef!! That is my point exactly! I tried as did many others, to coach and prod Zephyr to reality but it did not work. There is another member on these boards who I did correspond through PM with and has shown marked improvement. He is not quite as defiant as Zephyr though and wants to be part of the community. I had watched as Zephyr just beat others into submission through spamming and further threats of spam. One participant in the RP even mentioned that they were 'forced' to allow Zephyr in. This is bad business. Anyone who has had, or works with kids, should have an idea of what happens when the tantrum works and the child gets their way after the fit--and we have seen it here.

As for the RPs, I think they would be much better if the postings were not quite as rapid. It is very difficult with rapid one line posts to actually role play anything. It is equally difficult with folks that refuse to learn the art of roleplay.

I do think though, that if a threat of punishment has been given, then at some point it should be meted out, if only for a short duration, just to show that the promised threat is real and viable.

I know much of Zephyr's shortcomings in RP are due to youth and inexperience and I can understand failings related to those factors. What irritates is the unwillingness to learn at all.

John

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
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I've not truly decided to leave; which is partly why I posted this. I've thought about it though, as you can tell. I like the games and the world behind them. I also use the forum for hints when I get stuck. I even used the forums to get input on whether I should get Exiles or Avernums. I hate seeing it just disintegrate into chaos as it seems to be doing.

I was interested at one time in trying to start a pseudo-RP thread. I say pseudo because it would be more for folks who can't sit by the computer for hours and post all day. But, I watched as the others wound their way into nonsense. Oh well....

John

[ Monday, June 23, 2003 08:17: Message edited by: Flavius ]

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
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Felwynne, have you ever met any AOL:ers? You know, I LOV3 BRITNEY SPEERS SH3 IS HOT!1!1!!1!!111 OMG - types? After meeting a few, you'd have to agree that even Zephyr is a shining beacon of intelligence in the darkness. A very dim beacon, but anyways.

To sum it all up, not everyone can be ye olde stick in the mud. You should respect the fools, and the fools should respect the stick-in-the-muds. This is hardly ever the case, but it happens
Nope. I stay away from AOLers as you've described them. As for Zephyr, his rantings are not in any way to have fun. They are petty demands of an upstart child. I've no problem with fun at all. I enjoy it as much as anyone else. Based upon your premise, indeed Zephyr may be "brighter" but that does not imbue him with any netiquette at all (or even etiquette for that matter).

As for "stick in the mud", that is not what I was advocating at all. Read some of the threads. I especially like every other post in some of the RP threads being Zephyr going on and on about playing even after he'd destroyed the legitimate fun others were having in previous threads. There are others who've splashed these boards with utter nonsense in recent days but it is difficult for me to keep up because they are referred to by other monikers instead of their displayed names. This coupled with a rapid series of profile changes makes it difficult to keep track of who is who.

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
Board Degeneration in General
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Hello Saunders!

I have read many of your posts! I like the way you attempt to encourage etiquette too!

I would think that the anonymity enjoyed in these forums leads to quite a bit of the behavior we witness. It is far easier to shout from a hidden place and cause havoc than to actually do so in front of the crowd, as it were.

I have, as I've said, noted that some members, like Order Mage, have made that attempt to fit in to the community after coaching, prompting, and some mentoring. Unfortunately, some do not respond and continually act inappropriately and when told otherwise, pitch their little fits. I imagine, one in particular, is quite the little handful for Mommy and Daddy, yet I am sure the behavior has been nurtured and created by their inaction too. These are the ones that need to be prompted, nurtured, needled occasionally, and later banned if they do not change. I know I am not the only one annoyed with these shenanigans. Perhaps, I am just more vocal at this point.

John

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
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Order Mage: I was referring to when you first started posting. You have gotten much better. I know you and I have talked (I was Felwynne) and Kyna has talked with you. I am impressed with the way you have become responsible in your posting. We all do say "dumb" things from time to time so you are not alone. The difference between you and others is you try to get better at what you do, some others don't. So, no, I would not say you should leave.

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
Yet Another Self-Indulgent Goodbye Topic in General
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I expected some sugar laden, hyperactive, ritalin bound, pre-pubescent foolishness. However, with respect to netiquette, as with everything else a child learns, if they are not taught the right from the wrong, they shall never learn it. After a few attempts at correction, then temporary banning should occur. There should be some control. No, flaming is not necessarily correction, but I have seen genuine (tried myself) attempts to correct. It should reach a point though that one should see there is no "curve" in learning and try to create one through bans or some other methods to reinforce proper ettiquette.

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
Board Degeneration in General
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In the spirit of fairness, you have attempted to improve. You have shown a willingness to learn and you have gotten better. Zephyr on the other hand (and a few others), does not seem to want to listen nor understand. I am not advocating your departure (or Zephyr's for that matter) but I am advocating a change in behavior; if that change doesn't occur then, yes, a goodbye may be in order.

Take a look at Zephyr's new boards and tell me if they are really what you want. There is an entire thread that is nothing but infantile nonsense. I would hate to see these boards turn into that. Spiderweb makes great games. A new person to spiderweb, that looks at these boards, has got to wonder about the community. The game boards are orderly, but general has become a joke lately.

John

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
Yet Another Self-Indulgent Goodbye Topic in General
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I was going to ask about that one user name. The one with the blood swirl, but I noticed he had changed it around from the c*** thing.

As a very humorous note, you should check out Zephyr's new boards. The link is in his thread about his new forum. That is where I fear we would be headed if he/others like him are allowed to continue.

Thanks Drakefyre. I know you work hard trying to police these as do others.

[Edit] Off topic, but curious...how "hard" would a transition from pc to mac be. I have always thought about it (my first computer was apple, my next an old mac then pc's) but I have lots of software...

John

[ Monday, June 23, 2003 03:23: Message edited by: Flavius ]

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
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Who exactly is SM? There are acronyms mentioned that don't really go with user names. Like FB, SM etc...

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
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Goodbye. You seem to be right about the sudden degeneration of these boards - over the past week they appear to have just become rubbish. Maybe it is only a coincidence that it coincides with SM coming back.

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I too have become disheartened with these boards. I was originally Felwynne. I was going to leave with nothing said so I deliberately messed up my password, but I signed back up as Flavius. I have not been a member long but I enjoy spidweb games, and have most of them. I enjoyed the conversation and the assistance.

And then came Order Mage, Zephyr Tempest, and the others of the "brat pack" and I watched the boards degenerate into grade-school nonsense. Despite the efforts of myself, some other mature members, and the moderators nothing gets any better. Had a been a mod these kids would have been banned weeks ago. I understand patience but c'mon now, there have been some very good people leave these boards just since I came on. I have also noticed a decline in posts from other members that posted more frequently than they do now. I think they are there, lurking, scratching their heads at the nonsense that pervades these boards.

I too have pretty much given up. I think I will stick with rgra and rgrn and some others out on Usenet for, at least, adults are there. It is also a place that Zephyr, Order, and others would never survive. While I understand they are pre-pubescent, young, and foolish there is no excuse for there behavior and no excuse for their continued existence on these boards. I believe they have violated the CoC, but then, as with any other standard, if it is not enforced why have it. Doubt what I am saying? Look at the RP threads that have been ruined. Look at the posts demanding something with the overt threat of continued spamming.

Ditch the brats (so everyone knows, I am in my late 40's and have four kids, so I am not just some kid-hating adult, just one with little patience for bratty conduct--mine paid for it when they got out of hand, discipline people, discipline) and restore the boards to normalcy. These were fun when adults could discuss RPG's and other topics. They have degenerated to childlike idiocy.

John

[ Monday, June 23, 2003 04:57: Message edited by: Flavius ]

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
Yet Another Self-Indulgent Goodbye Topic in General
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I never claimed these boards are for intellectuals. They should belong to people, though, that wish to discuss topics in some sort of orderly manner. I have seen Zephyr spam the life out of a topic if he wanted to be included (what is sad is though he does this, mods go out of their way to get him included despite the opinions of others. This only reinforces his behavior). In the Geneforge 2 threads he pretty much said he would continue posting no matter how many times topics were closed until he got answers. Gee, hold my breath, stomp my feet, and whine, whine, whine.

Perhaps the CoC is not written to exclude their behavior. I do know this though, that if enough people become fed up with their childishness, there will exist only themselves in this forum. That would indeed be sad but I can see it coming.

John

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
Yet Another Self-Indulgent Goodbye Topic in General
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quote:
Goodbye. You seem to be right about the sudden degeneration of these boards - over the past week they appear to have just become rubbish. Maybe it is only a coincidence that it coincides with SM coming back.

I too have become disheartened with these boards. I was originally Felwynne. I was going to leave with nothing said so I deliberately messed up my password, but I signed back up as Flavius. I have not been a member long but I enjoy spidweb games, and have most of them. I enjoyed the conversation and the assistance.

And then came Order Mage, Zephyr Tempest, and the others of the "brat pack" and I watched the boards degenerate into grade-school nonsense. Despite the efforts of myself, some other mature members, and the moderators nothing gets any better. Had a been a mod these kids would have been banned weeks ago. I understand patience but c'mon now, there have been some very good people leave these boards just since I came on. I have also noticed a decline in posts from other members that posted more frequently than they do now. I think they are there, lurking, scratching their heads at the nonsense that pervades these boards.

I too have pretty much given up. I think I will stick with rgra and rgrn and some others out on Usenet for, at least, adults are there. It is also a place that Zephyr, Order, and others would never survive. While I understand they are pre-pubescent, young, and foolish there is no excuse for there behavior and no excuse for their continued existence on these boards. I believe they have violated the CoC, but then, as with any other standard, if it is not enforced why have it. Doubt what I am saying? Look at the RP threads that have been ruined. Look at the posts demanding something with the overt threat of continued spamming.

Ditch the brats (so everyone knows, I am in my late 40's and have four kids, so I am not just some kid-hating adult, just one with little patience for bratty conduct--mine paid for it when they got out of hand, discipline people, discipline) and restore the boards to normalcy. These were fun when adults could discuss RPG's and other topics. They have degenerated to childlike idiocy.

John

[ Monday, June 23, 2003 02:12: Message edited by: Flavius ]

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
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Profile #39
I say let's dig up all those old Esperanto books!!

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
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This sounds more like a problem with your ISP. These boards have been fine all day as far as I can tell. What ISP are you using? Are you and your brother online at the same time trying to get into the boards? Are you on dial-up or what?
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Adding to the mix is English as spoken in America. Any relation to the Germanic roots is all but gone now. And you're right many "English" words have roots other than German. It is more like the Heinz 57 of languages.

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
Posts: 110 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00
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Hey, the teachers always said there was no ironclad rule. At least it got you close I guess. You at least had a 50-50 shot :P I was just finishing the little ditty as I'd heard it said.

Ah, English, such a fun language. Just think about trying to figure out the whole ie ei thing after being taught only phonetics...

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
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Oh.. my.. self.. in General
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I BEFORE E EXCEPT AFTER C EXCEPT WHEN THE SOUND IS A

As in neighbor and weigh.... :D

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
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Wow! This looks great. It sounds a lot like the old classic Master Of Magic in some ways. I definitely will give it a try as soon as it is available!

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The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
Larry Hardiman
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