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Wouldnt an Exile/Avernum MMORPG be awesome? in General
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Sunday, October 22 2006 19:13 Profile Homepage #12
quote:
Originally written by Zeviz:

2. Turn-based format doesn't sound very good for MMO play.
That's bunk! The direct forerunners of MMORPGs were all turn-based, and I can attest that the systems worked quite well. Most famously, there was the original Neverwinter Nights on AOL, which was based on the SSI Gold Box engine. There was also the Shadow of Yserbius (and its prequel whose name I forget) done by Sierra on INN. Great games. Personally I prefered them to MUDs precisely because they were turn-based, and they didn't require that my eyes be constantly glued to the screen the whole time I played for fear of not healing a companion in time to prevent his death, or my own.

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Delicious Geneforge in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Sunday, October 22 2006 19:05 Profile Homepage #26
For the Shaper who has everything -- or at least servile taste-testers.

-- Rotdhizon Calzone

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A4 contradictions in Avernum 4
Slarty
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Member # 261
 written Sunday, October 22 2006 18:55 Profile Homepage #9
On the other hand, some of the Vahnatai mages and Crystal Souls are among the most thoughtful, reasonable characters we see in the games. Eos-Bok and Aichael-Bok, then there's Bon-Ihrno and Bohen-Ihrno, Ublis-Ihrno, Bentis-Ka, and Prossis-Bok was a magic-user as well.

What human magic-users of rank are so reasonable? Rone and Aimee, and maybe Patrick and Solberg. Mairwen. I can't think of many, yet we have encountered many more human magi!

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A4 contradictions in Avernum 4
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Sunday, October 22 2006 08:26 Profile Homepage #3
There is some contradiction in the games about age. The approximate dates that exiling began and Avernum was founded are pretty consistently adhered to, but age is not handled well in A4. It takes place about 38 years (a conservative answer!) after A1 and about 80 years after the Kingdom of Avernum was founded. Some lines in the game suggest it's even longer after A1... yet people are alive who shouldn't be, and are younger than they should be.

It's as if for much of the game's creation Jeff planned on a date only 25 years from A1...

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Episode 3: A New Game in General
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Sunday, October 22 2006 08:00 Profile Homepage #64
Whine, whine.

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Good news! in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Sunday, October 22 2006 06:14 Profile Homepage #56
Two good clarifying questions:

Is base AP still 8?
Is there still the very odd discrepancy that you can use an item and then attack, but can't attack and then use an item, because attacking ends your turn if you have less than 5 AP left afterwards?

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Delicious Geneforge in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Sunday, October 22 2006 06:05 Profile Homepage #20
A battle creation worthy of an iron chef warrior.

-- Rotghroth Challoth
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Good news! in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 22:08 Profile Homepage #50
Hmm. Cool.

I'm curious to see how that makes items more useful. The old system already let you use them in addition to a regular attack (8-3=5). I can think of various setups that preserve this advantage (like Exile's: 4-3>0) but none that increase it, unless the AP costs have changed significantly.

Edit: Or not. So if I understand DV correctly, we'll have:

Shaping/Combat - missile shaper
Shaping/Magic - standard shaper
Combat /Shaping - standard guardian
Combat /Magic - magic guardian
Magic /Combat - standard agent

The magic guardian should trump the standard guardian and, depending on how melee has been balanced and how Haste interacts with the new AP system, might trump the standard agent as well. Missile shapers also get better, especially if crystals get better, and get less annoying thanks to the new encumbrance system.

[ Saturday, October 21, 2006 22:18: Message edited by: Cake Glaahk ]

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Episode 3: A New Game in General
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 21:01 Profile Homepage #57
This script needs

1) a conga line
2) permadeath
3) Mariann, Mariann Krizsan, Mariann Krizsan, and Krizsan
4) the Genesword
5) Anaxagoras

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Delicious Geneforge in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 19:42 Profile Homepage #12
What, you people don't trust me to come up with my own menu of creation creations?

Pffft.

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Good news! in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 18:20 Profile Homepage #45
The creations have actually become more differentiated in each game. In G1, with high enough shaping skill, an Artila would not be easily distinguished from any other creature.

The biggest jump was between G1 and G2. Since we have new creations again, it's probably a safe bet the old ones were tweaked as well. Yay!

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Cheer up in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 17:17 Profile Homepage #36
I'm sending you a telepathic message as we speak, vlish. :P

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Your thoughts on Adventure Quest in General
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 15:34 Profile Homepage #19
If UBB allowed it, my PDN would have just become "Thûryl".

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Cheer up in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 14:03 Profile Homepage #34
There are two words in there, DV, that come close to TM's level of inappropriateness. Boo.

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Your thoughts on Adventure Quest in General
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 14:02 Profile Homepage #14
Sultree Salmon...

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Good news! in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 13:58 Profile Homepage #42
quote:
Originally written by YATT:

—Alorael, who must reiterate that the missing sixth class is the one he thinks he'd actually like the most and quite possibly find the most abusable. Jeff thinks it would be too weak. Now stew in your lack of information!
That's interesting. Hmm. Magic with Shaping, or Combat with Magic? Must be one of those -- though perhaps I'm still stuck in the old Geneforge paradigm.

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Your thoughts on Adventure Quest in General
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 13:44 Profile Homepage #12
Except that 'X' isn't mentally inhibited, and talks like a normal person. He doesn't have any gimmicks, aside from being an anvilophile.

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Your thoughts on Adventure Quest in General
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 12:23 Profile Homepage #9
Trollee Salmon!

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Good news! in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 12:16 Profile Homepage #39
quote:
Originally written by Transportion:

...or at least with novel and exciting engine abuse.
That's the spirit. May the way of the Red Mage lead to the Triforce!

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Your thoughts on Adventure Quest in General
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 11:53 Profile Homepage #5
So where did you get your name from, x?

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Delicious Geneforge in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 09:27 Profile Homepage #0
In honor of Geneforge 4, and to comfort Delicious Vlish in his hour of agentless need, my PDN will be cycling through candied creations until the game's release.

If it takes too long to get released, I might run out of creations to use, and have to do something drastic. So, chop chop!

-- Cake Glaahk
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Good news! in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 09:20 Profile Homepage #35
Well, the most maligned Agent trick was probably the Haste-Combat-Scoot-Firebolt-Flee-Endcombat-Repeat cycle. Given the changes that have been made to stealth, I'm guessing that's been nerfed somehow.

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Good news! in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 04:47 Profile Homepage #29
What about the problem of trying to get one of your characters to position themselves directly above an enemy? It can be extremely hard (sometimes it seems impossible) to click in the right place without having the enemy highlighted.

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Crossbows in Avernum 4
Slarty
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Member # 261
 written Saturday, October 21 2006 04:44 Profile Homepage #9
Interesting topic. Wikipedia says:

"In the later years of the crossbow it had enough kinetic energy to penetrate any chainmail and most plate armor hit squarely: some reached a draw force of nearly 350 lbf (1600 N), compared to the 60-180lbf (300-900 N) draw force for a longbow. Moreover, crossbows could be kept cocked and ready to shoot for some time with little effort, allowing crossbowmen to aim better and lessen the reaction time to fire compared to a bowman. Because archers could not keep their powerful bows pulled for long periods of time they aimed by pulling their bows a bit to put the bow in a strung stance, and they pulled the bow to the full pull length just right before they wanted to release the arrow."

"They almost completely superseded hand bows in many European armies in the twelfth century for a number of reasons. Although an expertly handled longbow had greater range, equal accuracy and faster rate of fire than an average crossbow, the value of the crossbow came in its simplicity: it could be used effectively after a week of training, while a comparable single-shot skill with a longbow could take years of practice. The invention of pushlever and ratchet drawing mechanisms enabled the use of crossbows on horseback."

And this sounds neat:

"Crossbowmen among the Flemish citizens in the army of Richard Lionheart, and others, had two servants, two crossbows and a pavise shield to protect the men. One of the servants had the task of reloading the weapons, while the second subordinate would carry and hold the pavise (the archer himself also wore protective armor). Such a three-man team could fire 8 shots per minute, compared to a single crossbowman's 3 shots per minute."

This is also cool: Cho-Ko-Nu

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Slarty
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
 written Friday, October 20 2006 19:23 Profile Homepage #20
I wonder if it involves being able to switch places with an ally, as you could do back in Exile? That would eliminate half the trouble involved with engine-assigned click-movement, and it would give the enemies new options as Randomizer said. I'm doubtful, but hey.

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