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The Hobbit in General
Wiz
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 written Monday, May 12 2008 09:16 Profile #96
quote:
Originally written by Evnissyen:

I prefer to be in control of my own emotions.
Well then, how do you stand the script and the acting which, in your own words, should be able to tell you what emotion to feel? In fact, how do you stand any form of art which conveys some emotion or the other?

I find it strange that you think you are losing control of your emotions when your hear soundtracks which can evoke emotions. I find it stranger that you don't think the same in the case of other form of artworks.

quote:
Originally written by Evnissyen:

As for music "adding something" to the film: 1. I think I already answered that question, as to my regard for the role of sound in film (which is that too many filmmakers have too little respect for it)
No, your argument that 'too many filmmakers have too little respect for it' doesn't answer that point. But that apart, you seem to think that conveying emotions is strictly the job of script and acting and as soon as a soundtrack starts doing that, it becomes manipulation and dishonest. Fine, that is your point of view. But as i said earlier, for many of us, sound and music too plays an integral part in making us feel the emotions. Hence, artists that use soundtracks to convey emotions are not dishonest, as you so blatantly put it. Rather, they just don't cater to your specific requirements.
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The Hobbit in General
Wiz
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 written Monday, May 12 2008 01:23 Profile #86
quote:
Originally written by Clavicle:


I'm trying to describe the difference between a good soundtrack and a bad soundtrack.
Yes, i get it. But its your description that i don't agree with. You seem to think that any soundtrack which enhances the emotions is bad. I think they are the among the best.

quote:
Originally written by Clavicle:

... and does not need encouragement.
Again, i disagree here. While watching a scene, would you like to know that you are supposed to feel a certain emotion or actually feel it yourself? Would you like to get involved in a movie and enjoy it completely or just stay away and calculate the emotions you are supposed to feel?

It is not always a case of soundtracks conveying what the script can't. Its often one adding to the other. If there is nothing dishonest about the script or acting conveying certain emotions, i don't see what is dishonest about the soundtrack doing the same. Sound & music is art too. And if a scene is supposed to evoke an emotion, every element of the scene has a part to play in it.

quote:
Originally written by Clavicle:


How about this: Imagine if Jeff Vogel decided to add a loud, imposing orchestral soundtrack to Avernum and/or Geneforge. How would that affect the feel of the game and the gameplay?
If done properly, it can add to the atmosphere of the game. Many of us are happy with the way it is now cause it lets us play our choice of songs while playing. However, i don't think you would want to do that while watching a movie.
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00
The Hobbit in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Saturday, May 10 2008 23:24 Profile #80
I do agree that we don't need soundtracks to tell us what to feel. However, that doesn't mean that if the script/acting is good enough to tell us what to feel, soundtracks are totally unnecessary. For some of us, soundtracks actually enhance the feeling conveyed by the script/acting. And in many cases, in a delightful manner.
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Omaha Mall Shooting in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Sunday, December 23 2007 10:28 Profile #453
quote:
Originally written by Stillness:

[QB
quote:
Originally written by Wiz:

quote:
Originally written by Stillness:

I believe homosexuality is a sin
My main problem with this point of view is that i don't believe its a choice.
Wiz, are you misquoting me? You shouldn’t do that. My view on this issue is a bit more complex than this quote you attribute to me implies.[/QB]
My argument is not against you, but against that point of view. I quoted you as it was your statement that made me state my opinion on the matter.
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Omaha Mall Shooting in General
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Member # 2473
 written Saturday, December 22 2007 09:36 Profile #447
quote:
Originally written by Stillness:

I believe homosexuality is a sin
My main problem with this point of view is that i don't believe its a choice.
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Book or Movie? in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Sunday, October 14 2007 13:56 Profile #35
Another adaptation that tuned out to be a great movie was The Green Mile. I haven't read the book though, so can't really comment on it.
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00
Well, how can I know these answers? in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Sunday, October 14 2007 13:39 Profile #6
quote:
Originally written by Projec:
[ion]


We are all Imban.
Or Aran's bots!
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00
Book or Movie? in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Saturday, October 13 2007 06:52 Profile #14
quote:
Originally written by Lt. Sullust:

In that case, the books were better than the movies...
Yes, but the movies were not mediocre!
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Man or God in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Thursday, September 13 2007 11:20 Profile #86
If the sole purpose behind the heroin addiction was the pain and torture of your loved ones, then, it could be evil. Are you saying that accidents are evil while ones with moral components are not due to the presence of the moral component?

And Titanic sinking was evil? Who committed that evil act then? God?
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00
Man or God in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Thursday, September 13 2007 09:56 Profile #84
quote:
Originally written by Stillness:


“Bad choice with destructive consequences” is pretty much the definition of evil.
By that definition, all those people who got on the titanic, all who went to work in the WTC that day, all who got on ill fated flights and disastrous train rides, all who went to scale the Everest and never came back and the countless others that made bad choices with disastrous consequences were performing acts of evil?
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00
Man or God in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Wednesday, September 12 2007 10:08 Profile #73
quote:
Originally written by Stillness:



Any “joy” you get from bad choices is counterfeit. A heroine addict (I’ve known a couple) will tell you that they’ve experienced a better feeling than you can imagine. One of the addicts I knew died because he had destroyed his body, though. In fact, he had overcome his addiction years before but it still caught up with him. So heroine gave him a good feeling, but never real joy. It brought pain and emptiness and was not sustainable.

I think this example misses the point. Alo was talking about the enjoyment derived from evil. Heroine addiction is not exactly 'evil'. It is a bad choice primarily due to it destructive consequences. So this doesn't say 'evil never gives real joy'. Rather, it says 'Anything that destroys you will not give you real joy. Eventually'
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00
noob info in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Monday, September 10 2007 22:31 Profile #89
I thought Alorael was actually Imban! But then again, so is everybody else, including all those older members.
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00
Best in-game Spiderweb Art? in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Wednesday, September 5 2007 13:10 Profile #13
quote:
Originally written by Gauldoth Half-Dead:



IBTL.

You don't want to do that.
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00
New Spiderweb product idea in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Wednesday, September 5 2007 09:21 Profile #34
Which one?
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# of games bought from jeff in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Monday, September 3 2007 13:45 Profile #30
I think the avernum series has a very good storyline. At least the first 3 parts. In fact, its the storyline that got me interested in it initially.
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00
noob info in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Monday, September 3 2007 10:18 Profile #56
quote:
Originally written by Actaeon:

Or, if you're really in doubt, and you just have to use a pronoun, check the picture topics.
They don't seem to be here anymore. Guess they'll be in Aran's archives?
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00
noob info in General
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Sunday, September 2 2007 03:01 Profile #45
I think 'She' would be more appropriate. Or am i mistaken?

And yes, she has a point. I'm pretty sure most of the posts generally regarded to be spam would be considered interesting/useful by the poster.
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00
Corrupted data in stored items in Tech Support
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Tuesday, July 10 2007 12:18 Profile #2
Not sure what you mean by 'you'll lose all the items lying around'. The items that went missing are the ones that i had stashed in different towns. For example, the ones i had collected at the entrance in Dillame.

I have pretty much completed the Fens, including killing Monarch, after my system crashed. And i use the quicksave usually. So the last saved file i have, which was not overwritten is at the beginning of the fens.

I remember the towns were i had stashed my items. Is there any way i can copy the data for items stored in those areas alone? The error message makes me think that stored items in each area are maintained separately. If not, I'll probably have to go through the fens again.
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Corrupted data in stored items in Tech Support
Wiz
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Member # 2473
 written Tuesday, July 10 2007 10:53 Profile #0
I've been experiencing some problems with my laptop recently. Once, it crashed while Geneforge 4 was running. I was able to get the game to work after i restarted my machine.

But later on, when i visited certain areas where i had some items stored, i got a 'corrupted data in stored items' error and all the stored items were removed. I had already progressed quite a bit by that time and the last saved game i have is pretty old. Is there any way i can copy the stored items from a previous save file to the current one?
Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, January 10 2003 08:00