Using archery in E3
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, July 20 2006 05:41
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I know, archery sucks in E3, but i still love to use it. One of my characters is an archer, and i would love to get some tips from you people on how do make the best use of him. Posions? Any potions good? What items? Any spells helpful? And buying arrows any better than iron ones is out of question (how comes they are so expensive?). Thanks in advance. Posts: 43 | Registered: Monday, January 31 2005 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Thursday, July 20 2006 07:21
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Well the infinite arrow is cool, you can find it in junk shops occasionally. An infinite arrow and Archer's Bow are both very light, so it leaves your archer with plenty of weight to carry armor and other stuff. Magic arrows are a bit expensive at first, but by the middle of the game you'll reach the gold limit and have plenty to blow on magic items. But for the most powerful bow you'll need the Fury Crossbow (its an artifact, so you know its gonna be a pain to get it.) Still, even with the fury crossbow and magic bolts I found archery to be too weak. I like using poisons on both melee and archer characters. Very few monsters are resistant to it, and killer poisons pack quite a punch. I almost cried when I realized there would be no poisons in Avernum :) -------------------- Guaranteed to blow your mind. Frostbite: Get It While It's...... Hot? Posts: 900 | Registered: Monday, August 8 2005 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Thursday, July 20 2006 10:54
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With my main archer Mathuzar, he was equipped with 40 Killer Poisons I bought from Randall's Item Shop (hint: use Shift + D to refresh items in shop), the Fury Crossbow, a handfull of magic bolts, and an Assasin's Knife for backup. The damage wasn't very good, but he was helpful with levels like the Giant Caves due to the lava blocking me off from giants, making my melee characters useless. -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, July 20 2006 12:09
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I do have the Archer's bow and Infinite arrow. i allso have a few magic arrows. Are there any spells that can boost the hit chance and/or damage of archery? (like strength to fighters). Is randell the shopkeeper in the Tower of magi, or the one in lorlei? Cause i'm now doing the tower of magi quest. Posts: 43 | Registered: Monday, January 31 2005 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Thursday, July 20 2006 12:15
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Randell is in the Tower. Btw, Strength increases bow attacks as well as melee attacks. Using Strength, Bless, Haste, and other boosts should make your archer more powerful. -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, July 20 2006 18:28
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Archers are useful where you can't get into melee. Think of it as a free attack while the monsters run up to die. In the end in R-I's fortress it helped with parties in corridors where only the first character could melee. Mass haste, major blessing, and any other buff spells will increase your attack damage and number of attacks. Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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Loyal Underling
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written Friday, July 21 2006 03:08
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I like poison and exploding arrows. I don't remember if there are lightning arrows too, or if they're javelins, but those would be good as well. EDIT: Although personally I would just abandon archery and go for tossing razordisks instead. [ Friday, July 21, 2006 03:09: Message edited by: the Great Potato ] -------------------- [i]Great Potato[/i] "Unless by the force of eloquence they mean the force of truth; for if such is their meaning, I admit that I am eloquent." -- Socrates Posts: 126 | Registered: Thursday, September 27 2001 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Friday, July 21 2006 08:20
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Using Arrows of Life against undead is very helpful. The Great Potato, using razordisks is fun with the fun swooshing noise, but they are harder to find and far more expensive. Also, you can find enchanted bows/crossbows and arrows/bolts but razordisks don't come in many varities. :-P -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, July 21 2006 13:42
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The Great Potato is Drakey. —Alorael, who equipped all his archers with returning ammunition and rarely used any of his bows. The time spent shooting is better spent charging so as to start applying two-bladed fury. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Friday, July 21 2006 14:51
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Ah. Using arrows on non-ranged boss monsters with weaker parties is helpful while it is charging forward. -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, July 21 2006 21:22
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I've always found that, along with your party archer, capturing the Empire Archers soul (the one in the slime caves) is quite handy. -------------------- I'll put a Spring in your step. :ph34r: Posts: 2396 | Registered: Saturday, January 29 2005 08:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Friday, July 21 2006 22:33
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Empire Archers cheat. >_< -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Master
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written Saturday, July 22 2006 09:59
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I usually start an archer on my party, but he always eventually evolves into a secondary mage (e.g. Slow Group man) as arrows evolve from marginally useful to useless. -------------------- -ben4808 Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Saturday, July 22 2006 16:30
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quote:Very true. During the Tower of Magi fight against the Mung Demons and Haakai I summoned five Empire Archers to shoot down the stray Imps and act as meatshields. :D -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, July 26 2006 12:38
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I always wonder how Empire Archers can never run out of arrows. I always fall short in the middle of an important battle. -------------------- You acquire an item: Radio Free Foil Posts: 1169 | Registered: Monday, September 23 2002 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, July 26 2006 14:27
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Monsters have unlimited arrows. Cheaters. -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Master
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written Thursday, July 27 2006 11:37
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I think I may have stumbled on their secret. Interesting... -------------------- -ben4808 Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Thursday, July 27 2006 14:15
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Nah, the Returning Arrow may be never-ending, but I can't seem to damage any of those higher-level monsters with it. The damage just isn't strong enough. -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, July 27 2006 16:57
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You need to be blessed when shooting at higher level monsters. It also helps to save special arrows for them. Only Empire Archers really are damaging with bows. Don't rely upon them except when you don't have anything else. Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Friday, October 6 2006 17:29
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quote:They aren't that hard to find. You can get them in Ghikra, for one thing. I can't remember where else though. -------------------- When you think you can't get any lower in life and hit rock bottom, God hands you a shovel. Why should I say somthin intelligent when idiots like you make me look intelligent in the first place. Posts: 615 | Registered: Friday, May 3 2002 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, October 6 2006 19:17
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Let sleeping zombies lie. —Alorael, who can only add that he cannot approve of Throwing on principle Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, October 6 2006 21:34
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Exile thrown weapons use less action points than bows so in haste you get an extra shot off each round. Still bows are easier to use with the greater variety of arrows. [ Friday, October 06, 2006 21:34: Message edited by: Randomizer ] Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Wednesday, October 18 2006 10:06
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Back when I did a lot of archery, I'd use infinite arrows and any accuracy-enhancing items; train up on strength, dexterity, and archery; and use a lot of blessing items & spells. Nowadays, I just train everyone with strength, intelligence, and both mage and priest spell skills, and carry a lot of items that replenish spell points (though this is probably off topic, so I won't go into details). Edit: One thing I do like in the Exile series, however, is that no matter what your ammo, you can target invisible monsters. :D :D :D This is not true of the Avernum series. [ Saturday, October 21, 2006 04:00: Message edited by: The Mystic ] -------------------- Either I'm crazy, or everybody else is nuts. And I know I'm not crazy because the little man who lives on my shoulder told me so. If people don't think there's something wrong with you, there's something wrong with you. Posts: 558 | Registered: Friday, September 15 2006 07:00 |
