New Playable Race?

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AuthorTopic: New Playable Race?
Apprentice
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How can Goblins not be on that list?

It would have to be goblins or vahnatai really. New races are not needed. Either could be justified if one was say found as a a baby and raised.
Posts: 30 | Registered: Friday, March 17 2006 08:00
Apprentice
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Originally written by Zeviz:
Nephils, Sliths, and Vahnatai are one of the major things that distinguishes Exile/Avernum universe from generic RPGs where you wade through hordes of goblins/orcs with the help of elves and halflings. If we start removing races from games just because some people have dirty minds, we'd pretty soon end up with games containing only stick-figure drawings of generic humans.

Like I said, they shouldn't be removed. I don't think they should have been made playable, but they're there now, and that's that.

Although my reasons for removing them weren't because of filthy furries, but because they didn't really fit in as well as a playable race should into Avernum society. A lot more people should have hated them than actually did, considering how long they had been (from the Avernites perspective) murdering and raiding humans.

Anyway, what's wrong with stick figure drawings of generic humans?
Posts: 8 | Registered: Friday, May 5 2006 07:00
Guardian
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The most underdeveloped race in nearly all RPGs and CRPGs are humans. I'd prefer new cultural groups and such rather than new races.

I wonder how a goblin PC would work? For a change of pace, how about an experience bonus and lots of disadvantages?

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I will create an Avernum game with the fully mapped out possibility of evil PCs. No more of this namby-pamby 'I'm going to pilfer this from you as I go about altruistically saving the world' stuff.
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Councilor
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Originally by Dintiradan:

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IF I EVER BECOME AN EVIL OVERLORD:
I will create an Avernum game with the fully mapped out possibility of evil PCs. No more of this namby-pamby 'I'm going to pilfer this from you as I go about altruistically saving the world' stuff.
Surely you don't have to wait until you are an Evil Overlord to do that? Or will that scenario's release be the signal that you are ready and that your most competent and evil agents should go out and put Plan O into action?

(Notice how brilliant Plan O is. It is not painfully obvious like The Top Secret Plan For Taking Over The World nor is it something ridiculously complex like Plan 684.3251, Section 4, Clause C. Furthermore, it is far enough along in the alphabet that it is not likely to be confused with any of the hero's plans, like Plan A or Plan B or Plan C would.)

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Dikiyoba likes having nephilim and slithzerakai be playable species. It adds a roleplaying perspective (purely in Dikiyoba's mind, though) that would be missed in a party of only humans. But Dikiyoba is quite satisfied with only three playable species.
Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00
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Demon's would be interesting to play.
I've always wondered what things would be like from a demon's point of view rather than "Look human's DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
As for goblins they are mainly to weak to become adventures. They would probably be killed by another tribe mate anyway.

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Guardian
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By Dikiyoba:
quote:
(Notice how brilliant Plan O is. It is not painfully obvious like The Top Secret Plan For Taking Over The World nor is it something ridiculously complex like Plan 684.3251, Section 4, Clause C. Furthermore, it is far enough along in the alphabet that it is not likely to be confused with any of the hero's plans, like Plan A or Plan B or Plan C would.)
Don't be so sure.

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Haley: Think of it as 'Plan B'.
Belkar: 'B'? Didn't we go through this already? We're on like Plan Q.

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Haley: Shhh! I'm getting an idea.
Belkar: And so, Plan R begins to take form.

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Belkar: So. Plan S, then?
- OotS
Posts: 1509 | Registered: Tuesday, January 10 2006 08:00
Agent
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Profile #32
Maybe Jeff will make an Avernum from the Vahnatai perspective where you play as the Vahnatai rather than the original three races. I know that he swore he would never allow Vahnatai PCs but remember, he also swore he would never make a 4th Avernum...
Posts: 1233 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
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quote:
Originally written by Enraged Slith:

Maybe Jeff will make an Avernum from the Vahnatai perspective where you play as the Vahnatai rather than the original three races. I know that he swore he would never allow Vahnatai PCs but remember, he also swore he would never make a 4th Avernum...
Yes and let's not forget that JV also swore that the short lived sellout cereal "Exile-Os" would stay crunchy in milk.

-Kardas, whose sweetened corn and oat adventurers got soggy :(

[ Monday, May 15, 2006 16:29: Message edited by: Mister Fox ]

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Posts: 64 | Registered: Sunday, April 3 2005 08:00
The Establishment
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Profile #34
quote:
I know that he swore he would never allow Vahnatai PCs but remember, he also swore he would never make a 4th Avernum...
I thought it was Exile IV that he said he would not make, although I could have missed the Avernum extension to that statement. At any rate, I highly doubt he will go that route any time soon.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Infiltrator
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I'm going to argue FOR stick figure race, can be any sex/combination of and as I play, I can imagine it to be any race whatsoever.

Biggest drawback I see is vulerability to fire attacks and/or erasers (JV use ink to make that stick figure please)

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Posts: 687 | Registered: Wednesday, January 19 2005 08:00
Shock Trooper
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Profile #36
Subraces are good.

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Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Guardian
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Necromancy is bad.

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Posts: 1509 | Registered: Tuesday, January 10 2006 08:00
Shaper
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Posts: 2395 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00
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Pie too.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Councilor
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Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00
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Yes, this topic is finished.

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