Frail + Brittle Bones
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Shock Trooper
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written Monday, April 24 2006 03:06
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After reading jestrada5's thread in the AT forum, I thought I would try something similar with A4, just for fun. So here's my party : Ssschah Slithzerikai Blademaster Brittle Bones Frail Mmrrr Nephil Archer/Explorer Brittle Bones Frail Mycroft Human Priest Strong Will Frail Cordelia Human Mage/Thief Nimble Fingers Frail Well geez, at first I wasn't being serious, but now I am considering replaying the whole game with this party. My PCs are leveling up really fast. If I keep playing, I'm pretty sure my slith will be an ur-blademaster in no time - and he should be able to get some Parry quite early, too. So far none of the enemies I've met have been too hard - and I haven't even used the Daze spell yet. Even Blackfur was a pushover and the Fort Draco shade wasn't that tough. I had to use a bit more armor than usual for my slith, but that was all. So, um, I'm afraid I strongly disagree with Schrodinger about Frail. [ Monday, April 24, 2006 03:10: Message edited by: The Lurker ] Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00 |
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written Monday, April 24 2006 06:02
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The trouble with taking traits with XP bonuses in A4 is that around the Eastern Gallery, your levelling rate really starts to slow down and stays slow for the rest of the game -- you'll be getting negligible XP from everything after a certain level, so you'll only end up 2 or 3 levels ahead, which is less than the skill point value of the benefits you'd get from taking traits with XP penalties instead. Feel free to try and disprove conventional wisdom, though. [ Monday, April 24, 2006 06:04: Message edited by: Thuryl ] -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Monday, April 24 2006 06:06
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That's not true. I ended the game with a level 55 human with two disadvantages. Far ahead of the normal soloing rate (around 40-45). It's still not enough to make up for all the free skills, but it should be pointed out that only monster xp is lowered with level, not quest. -------------------- ??? ?????? ???? ????? Posts: 883 | Registered: Wednesday, October 19 2005 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Monday, April 24 2006 18:27
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Soloing ends with a 40-45 level? Ok..I estimate that I'm about halfway through the game now. I've not been to Patrick's Tower yet. I'm just now going into Fort Emerald in order to retrieve the crystal box for Houghton. My party members are all around the 25th level. I rather think that I'll end the game with members mostly around level 50. And none of my party members have any disadvantages. In fact, each of them has at least one advantage. I'm starting to believe that you can't really mess up..it all equals out in the end somewhere. Am I wrong? ---Zelda [ Monday, April 24, 2006 18:28: Message edited by: Zelda ] -------------------- Hey, where are we going? And what's with the handbasket? Posts: 63 | Registered: Friday, April 12 2002 07:00 |
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FAQSELF
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written Monday, April 24 2006 20:36
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quote:Sadly, yes. You'll end at ~32-35, depending on your desire for total quest completion and mind-numbing pylon killing. You actually sound a lot further along then you might think. ABE: Judging from my really quick estimate (moving halfway down my FAQ), the middle of the game is somewhere around about the Tower Colony to Camp Samuels. [ Monday, April 24, 2006 20:39: Message edited by: Schrodinger ] -------------------- A few cats short of a kitten pot pie... Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. Check out a great source for information on Avernum 2, Nethergate, and Subterra: Zeviz's page. Finally, there's my Geneforge FAQ, Geneforge 2 FAQ, and Geneforge 3 FAQ. Posts: 2831 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 07:47
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Still playing with my frail party. Carrying stuff around is starting to become a major pain, and I have to put a bit more points in my nephil's strength than usual. Combat is still quite easy (I killed Kravvit-Bok and Hrickis with no problems), and I really appreciate the fact than my slith is leveling faster than usual. Thuryl - you may be right about this, but I can use my extra skill points however I want, which is nice. And hey, my slith still gets free bonuses to pole weapons, my nephil gets bonuses to Gymnastics (he has a lot of Dexterity, too, so he's hard to hit in melee), and my mage/thief is much more powerful (both in unlocking and spellcasting) than before. EDIT : Also, I am playing on Normal difficulty. I always play on Normal. [ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 07:49: Message edited by: The Lurker ] Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 10:47
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quote:That makes sense. I tried on Torment, and even though torment is easy I found that my party got killed a lot easier than my proper party. Also, has anyone tried this with a singleton, as this may be a way to break the level block? - Archmagus Micael -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Avernum?" ~ Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). -------------------- MY FORUM! Randomosity at it's highest! :) Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Friday, June 2 2006 14:26
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Tell me how this turns out. I didn't even know anybody even noticed my post all that much. Was very surprised Posts: 17 | Registered: Friday, April 21 2006 07:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Friday, June 2 2006 16:50
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quote:Actually, that's not true. Quest XP rewards are scaled according to your level. If you look at the scripts, there are actually two numbers given: a base XP amount and a level at which the base amount is awarded. You get more or less XP depending on what your actual level is when you complete the quest. This may scale differently from enemy XP awards, but it definitely is lowered with level. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, June 2 2006 17:55
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Everything scales downward with the highest party member's level. Monsters and trap disarms provide so little experience that quest rewards are the most noticeable. At least you don't see the Geneforge message, "You are too high a level to get experience" every monster kill. Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |