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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, March 15 2006 05:20
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Once, trying to intrigue one person with Avernum, I started to depict the almost undescribable beauties of this world and its inhabitants. That time I wrote a sort of a short novel, skipping details, following only the main storylines of A1-A3. I searched through this forum (and some other), trying to find any sort of a story, based on Avernum adventures. All in vain. That's why I wonder if there is somebody, interested in writing a trilogy (quadrology), based on A1-A3(4). Or writing a full and logically bound novel, depicting a continuation of Avernum story, revealing throng of interesting story facts of that planet. *Like a fact, that people and Vahnatai are not the native born creatures of Avernum and surface; or that Slitzerikai were outcasted to Avernum before first people landed on surface, but after last Vahnatai went deeper to hide* [ Friday, March 17, 2006 03:25: Message edited by: Meeshka ] -------------------- 9 masks sing in a choir: Gnome Dwarf Slith Giant Troll Troglo Human Nephil Vahnatai "If the mask under mask to SE of mask to the left of mask and to the right of me is the mask below the mask to the right of mask to the right of mask below me is the same, then who am I?" radix: +2 nicothodes: +1 salmon:+1 Posts: 203 | Registered: Tuesday, March 14 2006 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, March 15 2006 06:09
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Oddly enough, if you'd searched the BoA forum you would have found a rather mediocre attempt I finished back in November last year. It is at least related to the game world (the main characters are Vahnatai and Nephilim), but it takes place in a remote, pre-human past. As far as fan extensions to the world go, the scenario designers of Blades of Exile had some kind of consensus (that turned out to be a lot less consistent once one started asking deeper questions though...). At some point, there was an ongoing BoE-based roleplay called "The Arena" which became the origin for a lot of Ermarian lore (including the name Ermarian). Also, Drakefyre has a theory of all sentient life having been created by the Vahnatai. Finally, there's an attempt going on to combine these extensions (along with regular game canon) in a kind of Encyclopedia. Oh, and welcome. :) [ Wednesday, March 15, 2006 06:20: Message edited by: Aran ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, March 15 2006 13:58
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i think there should be something like that on this website so u can catch up with events if you just started playing i didnt find out what happend in A1 till i finished A3 and i still have no clue what happened in A2 (i am assuming that both the war and the theft of crystal souls happened in A1) i think it would of helped out a bit 2 know ahead of time then again maybe not Posts: 89 | Registered: Wednesday, March 15 2006 08:00 |
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Councilor
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written Wednesday, March 15 2006 15:14
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I think there is a condensed version of history in the full help manual. Dikiyoba. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, March 16 2006 00:15
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Thanks everyone for an answer on a question. But not mine! :) I read through Encyclopedia, Drakefyre's theory and Vahnatai vision. But what I was asking about is neither a history of Ermarian, nor a new point of view on historical facts. But a novel. 2 We are the music-makers Sorry, may be I used wrong keywords while searching. I tried to see your post in November last year, but search shows only starting from Nov 13. There I couldn't find your attempt. May be you can give mó a link? -------------------- 9 masks sing in a choir: Gnome Dwarf Slith Giant Troll Troglo Human Nephil Vahnatai "If the mask under mask to SE of mask to the left of mask and to the right of me is the mask below the mask to the right of mask to the right of mask below me is the same, then who am I?" radix: +2 nicothodes: +1 salmon:+1 Posts: 203 | Registered: Tuesday, March 14 2006 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, March 16 2006 00:56
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Aran's novel. You'll have to scroll past a lot of commentary and whatnot, though. Posts: 353 | Registered: Monday, January 9 2006 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, March 16 2006 03:15
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THNX 2 Early Bird. Reading. Introduction reminded me Silmarillion by J.R.R.T. As I'm not a fan, I couldn't read it through that time (I mean Silm). But in this case I can see, that the "holy" style is only in prologue. Till later, when I finish reading then. [ Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:01: Message edited by: Meeshka ] -------------------- 9 masks sing in a choir: Gnome Dwarf Slith Giant Troll Troglo Human Nephil Vahnatai "If the mask under mask to SE of mask to the left of mask and to the right of me is the mask below the mask to the right of mask to the right of mask below me is the same, then who am I?" radix: +2 nicothodes: +1 salmon:+1 Posts: 203 | Registered: Tuesday, March 14 2006 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, March 16 2006 08:05
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quote:. Spoilers, obviously . A1 is about the defeat of the nephil and slith threats to Avernum, the re-defeat of the demon Grah-Hoth, and the assassination of Emperor Hawthorne. A2 concerns the Empire's invasion of Avernum and the appearance vahnatai. The theft of the Crystal Souls happens just prior to A2's beginning. A3 is about the return of Avernites to the surface and the mess of monsters running amok. . No more spoilers . —Alorael, who is quite sure that every Avernum explains the important events in preceding Avernums. Most of A1 gets glossed over because it's a series of minor events with only a few major ones. A2 and A3 get plenty of attention. [ Thursday, March 16, 2006 08:06: Message edited by: The Question I Ask of Me ] Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, March 16 2006 11:59
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quote:I have about 10 facts to argue with the statement. A1 is full of interesting facts, considering major historical events. More to say, some major ideas of the true history of Ermarian are based exactly on A1. The further we go (A2, A3) the more complicated is the storyline. Therefore much more difficult to reveal the truth of ancient history. I should add that almost as valuable as A1 is A2 with reappearance of Vahnatai on the stage. -------------------- 9 masks sing in a choir: Gnome Dwarf Slith Giant Troll Troglo Human Nephil Vahnatai "If the mask under mask to SE of mask to the left of mask and to the right of me is the mask below the mask to the right of mask to the right of mask below me is the same, then who am I?" radix: +2 nicothodes: +1 salmon:+1 Posts: 203 | Registered: Tuesday, March 14 2006 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, March 16 2006 13:42
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But that's what makes A1 uneventful. You meet the sliths and nephils, fight a lot of them, explore the caves, discover this and that, find the way to the surface, and so on. It establishes the setting of Avernum and the characters in it, but most of it isn't something that can be easily restated. "When we were first down here, a huge demon tried to kill everybody. It was imprisoned, but it broke free and some adventurers banished it again. They were also the ones who led Avernum to victory over the hostile nephils and sliths, and they went on to assassinate Emperor Hawthorne with Erika's help. Then they vanished, and rumor has it that they did it by escaping to the surface." That's all you need to know about A1. —Alorael, who supposes that blurb is no shorter than A2's blurb and probably significantly longer than A3's one sentence: "Avernites returned to the surface, where they ended plagues of monsters and then defeated Rentar-Ihrno, the plagues' creator, in order to forge peace between the Empire and Avernum." Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Thursday, March 16 2006 15:43
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Well, to answer the thing about novels, I'm writing something based on Exile (Avernum) 2 in my spare time. I'm doing the second installment , because it's the only one that is really plot-based; though I've considered using the same characters in a version of third installment. I haven't posted what I have written anywhere yet because I want to kinda post it in order, and in installments, and, well, the prologue isn't done. -------------------- -Lenar Labs What's Your Destiny? Ushmushmeifa: Lenar's power is almighty and ineffable. All hail lord Noric, god of... well, something important, I'm sure. Posts: 735 | Registered: Monday, January 16 2006 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, March 16 2006 22:51
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quote:Seems like we are talking about different things. You tell me that the most plotfilled part is A2, if I'm not mistaken. And I'm trying to show the other way of importance of every part. That's how I'll try to explain (BTW a good reason to argue). Imagine, that one have studied everything, that is mentioned ONLY in A1 OR A2 OR A3. Let's take three people for example. And they all get the same task. To write a novel, which takes place in ANY period AFTER the Avernum they know, but in that novel every one ofe them should use the links to historcal facts and to reveal a couple of mysteryes of the past, may be showing the original point of view on the ancient history of Ermarian. So here's my bet: the A1 specialist will be much closer to the truth in his novel, than A2 & A3. I guess that if I knew the plot of ONLY A3, I would have such a mess in my head, having only common knowledge of any origin of this or that fact. The A2 learner has a little advantage with A1, knowing about Vahnatai. But still his knowledge of the origins will come from couple of dialogs and several short books. Anyway, to lay the end to this argue, which I didn't want to start, what I mean is to use all the parts from first to the last but not the least in this trilogy. Still, thanks to everybody, who has answered me. I didn't find any centralized group of writers, like I've seen on some other TV/PC games projects. 2 Lenar Labs : I'm eager to read your novel!!! As now I'm a bit busy with mu work and reading Crystal Song by We Are the Music-Makers, I have enough time to wait for your novel to be completed. 2 All May be it is not a bad idea to establish a resource of book creation? -------------------- 9 masks sing in a choir: Gnome Dwarf Slith Giant Troll Troglo Human Nephil Vahnatai "If the mask under mask to SE of mask to the left of mask and to the right of me is the mask below the mask to the right of mask to the right of mask below me is the same, then who am I?" radix: +2 nicothodes: +1 salmon:+1 Posts: 203 | Registered: Tuesday, March 14 2006 08:00 |
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BANNED
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written Thursday, March 16 2006 22:55
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I think it's really nice that there's quite a few people here willing to wrote books over the games they love. Keep up the good work all of you, espicialy with the Nephimim language that some people managed to make! :) Posts: 275 | Registered: Sunday, January 8 2006 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Friday, March 17 2006 02:47
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Encyclopedia Ermariana is designed as a resource for scenario designers, but it also fits as a resource for book writers. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, March 17 2006 03:18
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quote:If that points at my suggestion of a book resource, then that's not what I meant. I mean a sort of a storage of novel creations, holding all the creativity, based on Ermarian, if there will be such. And if you mean - "Here is a help from me, the information you need for your creativity! Use it and write something terrifically interesting and breathcatching like a gasp of hot air!" - then THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!! [ Friday, March 17, 2006 03:49: Message edited by: Meeshka ] -------------------- 9 masks sing in a choir: Gnome Dwarf Slith Giant Troll Troglo Human Nephil Vahnatai "If the mask under mask to SE of mask to the left of mask and to the right of me is the mask below the mask to the right of mask to the right of mask below me is the same, then who am I?" radix: +2 nicothodes: +1 salmon:+1 Posts: 203 | Registered: Tuesday, March 14 2006 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, March 17 2006 03:59
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That is what he meant, I guess, since that it what it is intended to be. ;) As for your other suggestion - there has never been a need for a centralized place for Ermarian fiction, since there isn't a whole lot of it. Scenario and graphics archives have sprung up like mushrooms around Spiderweb, but stories aren't very prevalent here. For easy web publishing without requiring too much technical skill, I suggest http://www.blogger.com . [ Friday, March 17, 2006 04:02: Message edited by: We are the music-makers ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, March 17 2006 04:20
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quote:Never late to start! :) quote:Don't think that n00b way of me ;) Still, thanks for the advice. I guess, if Ermarian fiction finds some sort of support in army of Avernum fans, I'll think over a creation of a web resource. -------------------- 9 masks sing in a choir: Gnome Dwarf Slith Giant Troll Troglo Human Nephil Vahnatai "If the mask under mask to SE of mask to the left of mask and to the right of me is the mask below the mask to the right of mask to the right of mask below me is the same, then who am I?" radix: +2 nicothodes: +1 salmon:+1 Posts: 203 | Registered: Tuesday, March 14 2006 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, March 17 2006 04:21
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Oh, and... Ermarian fiction? Sounds nice :) -------------------- 9 masks sing in a choir: Gnome Dwarf Slith Giant Troll Troglo Human Nephil Vahnatai "If the mask under mask to SE of mask to the left of mask and to the right of me is the mask below the mask to the right of mask to the right of mask below me is the same, then who am I?" radix: +2 nicothodes: +1 salmon:+1 Posts: 203 | Registered: Tuesday, March 14 2006 08:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Friday, March 17 2006 04:21
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I don't suppose anyone still has Tharma's Exile fan fiction? -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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...b10010b...
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Grr. The forums are playing up. Ignore the double post, please. [ Friday, March 17, 2006 04:22: Message edited by: Thuryl ] -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, March 17 2006 04:27
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quote:OFF: I'm REALLY sorry. I wrote it and immediately tried to delete, but there is no "Delete" button on this forum, is it? I know it's prohibited, so please, take my apologies. [ Friday, March 17, 2006 04:28: Message edited by: Meeshka ] -------------------- 9 masks sing in a choir: Gnome Dwarf Slith Giant Troll Troglo Human Nephil Vahnatai "If the mask under mask to SE of mask to the left of mask and to the right of me is the mask below the mask to the right of mask to the right of mask below me is the same, then who am I?" radix: +2 nicothodes: +1 salmon:+1 Posts: 203 | Registered: Tuesday, March 14 2006 08:00 |
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...b10010b...
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Actually, I was talking about my own, unintentional double post. You can't delete your own posts, or I'd have done so. :P But yeah, just so you know, next time edit instead of double posting. Unless the forums screw up and send a post of yours through twice, in which case, well, you're just unlucky. >_< -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, March 17 2006 05:23
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quote:Sorry. It wasn't meant to sound disparaging. It's just that I've learnt by now not to take technical skill for granted. Thuryl: Would this be the Tharma you meant? If so, then I can almost guarantee that if the fiction was ever posted on Spiderweb, it's not in the archives - nothing by #352 in there. Edit: Before I forget: I've been offering to host several members who were looking for an ad-free webspace for their Spiderweb sites (only Thralni has taken me up on that so far though). If you do set up that web resource and need a host (would be a subdomain of ermarian.net), just ask. :) [ Friday, March 17, 2006 06:02: Message edited by: We are the music-makers ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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No, Tharma never posted here works on the UBB. Maybe back in the days of Ikonboard, but I think they were all elsewhere. quote:—Alorael, who could locate only Pyrohydra, and only via a dead link. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Friday, March 17 2006 09:23
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I scanned in the story about Resurrection Balm a while ago. I still have all of the printouts. Paper copies are more useful than some people would have you believe. They're sitting right next to my ANN's from seasons III to VI. http://ryan-thompson.home.comcast.net/balm1.png http://ryan-thompson.home.comcast.net/balm2.png http://ryan-thompson.home.comcast.net/balm3.png quote:This is exactly what I mean, and you're welcome. :) [ Friday, March 17, 2006 09:25: Message edited by: Drakefyre ] -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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