In the Sewers of Shayder...
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 11:07
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 God save us from the Anama. -------------------- "Sometimes I get all hungry! And then I catch some flies! They fly into my webs! They are really yummy guys!" -Spider Posts: 209 | Registered: Monday, July 4 2005 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 22:14
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Anama are such bastards, i wonder how many mages they killed just like this........ Posts: 62 | Registered: Sunday, August 14 2005 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Wednesday, October 12 2005 02:48
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lets imagine what had happened if the anama had never existed and the mages of old would still rule bigail. (what was the name of that mage-island with the experiments and stuff?) or if the anama would control all of valorim. or avernum. or everything. -------------------- OH MY GOD IT'S THE FUNKY ****!!! Posts: 425 | Registered: Wednesday, January 28 2004 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, October 12 2005 07:49
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The mages never ruled Bigail. They just lived on Bigail like they did in the rest of Valorim until the Anama made them most unwelcome. —Alorael, who imagines that the Empire would collapse in short order if the Anama were everywhere. No army would be able to keep the entire Empire together without magical reinforcement. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, October 12 2005 08:54
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This is just unsupported speculation. There is no evidence to suggest that this unfortunate mage was executed by the Anama - it is far more likely to have been a rival mage. Any Empire that requires magical enchantments to keep itself in power is undesirable, and we'd be better off without it. If on the other hand the Empire is fair and virtuous, then it will survive without the need for magery. -------------------- "I can't read this thread with that image. But then, that's not a complaint." -Scorpius Geneforge 4 stuff. Also, everything I know about Avernum | Avernum 2 | Avernum 3 | Avernum 4 Posts: 1104 | Registered: Monday, March 10 2003 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, October 12 2005 12:18
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There are no rival mages in Shayder, although the body could be from the bad ol' times before the Anama. Everyone has magical enchantments except the Anama, and they've got fanaticism on their side. The Empire depends on magic to keep order and to kill all the horrible beasts in the countryside, Avernum depends on magic to maintain a decent existence, everyone needs magic. Not all of it is used to set people on fire! [Edit: GC or RWG?] —Alorael, who may have to dig up and old RWG thread. Just because an Empire could conceivably survive without magery doesn't make it plausible that it would. In Ermarian, Empires have magic. [ Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:18: Message edited by: Excuses ] Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, October 12 2005 19:39
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Well, the book he held in the damp sewers was still pretty legible. He couldn't have been in there long. -------------------- "Sometimes I get all hungry! And then I catch some flies! They fly into my webs! They are really yummy guys!" -Spider Posts: 209 | Registered: Monday, July 4 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, October 13 2005 17:03
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All I can say about this topic is... "For the love of God, Montresor!" -------------------- Your training was extensive... "This... is a tree!" "...what's it for?" ...and confusing. ---Avernum 3 Intro Posts: 42 | Registered: Thursday, August 26 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, October 13 2005 22:48
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well, the anama seems rough, but at least they try to keep away from skribbane , the church of Divine Lucre is worse(I hope I got all the spelligs right) -------------------- he who puts his head inside a dragon's orifice is likely to get a lot of... Posts: 104 | Registered: Saturday, November 6 2004 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, October 14 2005 07:46
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The Church of the Divine Lucre doesn't hurt anybody (except financially). It also doesn't help anyone (except for money). It is a perfectly mercenary and amoral organization. The Anama espouses high ideals and, armed with those ideals and its zeal in carrying them out, causes harm. —Alorael, who will leave the decision of which group is morally superior as an exercise for the reader. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Friday, October 14 2005 10:00
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The Anama causes no harm, they heal and purge. -------------------- "I can't read this thread with that image. But then, that's not a complaint." -Scorpius Geneforge 4 stuff. Also, everything I know about Avernum | Avernum 2 | Avernum 3 | Avernum 4 Posts: 1104 | Registered: Monday, March 10 2003 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, October 15 2005 07:55
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Do I heare Poe? The Cask of Amontillado? I thought the same thing when I saw it. -------------------- Guaranteed to blow your mind. Frostbite: Get It While It's...... Hot? Posts: 900 | Registered: Monday, August 8 2005 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, October 16 2005 08:01
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That didn't occur to me because I only read The Cask of Amontillado recently, and I played Avernum 3 years ago. But it seems that that is indeed the reference. -------------------- quote: Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Sunday, October 16 2005 08:26
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Granted, the poor sap in Amontillado wasn't a Mage per say, but when I saw that screenshot that's the first thing that popped into my head. I could just see a guy in Anama robes, his ring glinting in the dim light, bricking up the poor, bound mage for past transgressions while the doomed man futilely cried out for mercy. Poe FTW. -------------------- Your training was extensive... "This... is a tree!" "...what's it for?" ...and confusing. ---Avernum 3 Intro Posts: 42 | Registered: Thursday, August 26 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, October 16 2005 13:13
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quote:*Giggle* Or maybe it was a rival mage. Fortunato was a member of the Masons, but the main charcter (whose name cannot be rememberd) is not. -------------------- quote: Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Sunday, October 16 2005 14:23
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I believe the "main character" or "protaganist" was called Montresor (see my "quote" above). And hey, it still fits. The dead guy was a Mason (Mage) and his murderer is not (Anama). -------------------- Your training was extensive... "This... is a tree!" "...what's it for?" ...and confusing. ---Avernum 3 Intro Posts: 42 | Registered: Thursday, August 26 2004 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Monday, October 17 2005 01:28
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Mica: quote:Then why not take the spellbook? Only the Anama would leave a precious magical relic behind in the sewers... -------------------- VIVE LA TAKERS! VIVE LA REBELLION! VIVE LA GHALDRING! Posts: 522 | Registered: Friday, November 15 2002 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Monday, October 17 2005 08:10
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The spellbook isn't precious, it's rubbish (who ever uses bolt of fire?). Edit: another possible culprit is that well-known criminal element, the Guild. [ Monday, October 17, 2005 08:12: Message edited by: Micawber ] -------------------- "I can't read this thread with that image. But then, that's not a complaint." -Scorpius Geneforge 4 stuff. Also, everything I know about Avernum | Avernum 2 | Avernum 3 | Avernum 4 Posts: 1104 | Registered: Monday, March 10 2003 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Monday, October 17 2005 10:27
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Well, my Mages with 0 points in any weapon skill were more than happy to bump the damage their Bolt of Fire did from 35 to 55... -------------------- Your training was extensive... "This... is a tree!" "...what's it for?" ...and confusing. ---Avernum 3 Intro Posts: 42 | Registered: Thursday, August 26 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Monday, October 17 2005 13:52
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You only use Bolt of Fire in the most early part of the game. After gaining about five levels, it's useless. I see no reason why 20 extra damage to one target would top 80 damage to multiple targets. -------------------- quote: Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, October 18 2005 12:58
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I still use it to mop up whatever doesn't die to my Level 3 Lightning Spray. Why blow 4-6-8-10 MP on a monster with 30 HP when can off it for 2 MP with Level 3 Bolt of Fire? And no, my Ashwood Bow with Iron Arrows with 5 Dex and 0 Bow skill isn't going to cut it. I'm just saying, Bolt of Fire still gets a fair amount of use (especially in a Magic-heavy Party like mine) even at "higher" levels. Although, I will admit that once you're Level 40+ with 130+ MP and 5 points in Magery and 10 Intelligence and 18 Mage Spells, it pretty much falls by the wayside. And more on topic, how is that the High Priest of the Anama seems like, for the most part, a fair-minded (if biased), reasonable individual, and yet his followers are intolerant, xenophobic pricks? I mean, seriously, try to talk to anyone in the Anama without Rings on, see where it gets you. And yet, you can talk to the leader of the Anama fresh off the street and he'll teach you Priest Spells until the cows come home. It's weird. -------------------- Your training was extensive... "This... is a tree!" "...what's it for?" ...and confusing. ---Avernum 3 Intro Posts: 42 | Registered: Thursday, August 26 2004 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, October 18 2005 21:07
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It's because only Ahonar granted himself permission to speak with the outside world. -------------------- "Sometimes I get all hungry! And then I catch some flies! They fly into my webs! They are really yummy guys!" -Spider Posts: 209 | Registered: Monday, July 4 2005 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, October 19 2005 09:46
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1) Re Bolt of Fire, it doesn't do anything that a decent pole weapon can't do, and better. 2) Re Anama not talking freely to anyone outside the Anama, let's remember we're talking about a crisis situation here (plague of disease-bearing cockroaches). Get some perspective. The people of Sharimik are even less friendly - at first they won't let you into their city, for pete's sake. As for Gale, as soon as the mayor claps eyes on you, you're thrown in a prison cell! Give me the Anama any day. -------------------- "I can't read this thread with that image. But then, that's not a complaint." -Scorpius Geneforge 4 stuff. Also, everything I know about Avernum | Avernum 2 | Avernum 3 | Avernum 4 Posts: 1104 | Registered: Monday, March 10 2003 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, October 19 2005 12:39
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Bolt of fire does two things that a polearm won't. It can hit enemies who aren't right next to you and it can't miss. It's also used by a different character than your pole guy, probably. —Alorael, who used Bolt of Fire occasionally until the end of the game too. It's the next best thing after Wound. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, October 19 2005 13:38
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quote:Pfft (whatever the hell that means...), let those guys die. If they don't respect you, you might as well wait for Shayder (EDITED... wrong town @.@) to die (if it can completely)... THEN save everyone on Isle of Brigial... for all I care, Anama can ................ *buzzed out to not offend people any more then his body odor has* [ Wednesday, October 19, 2005 13:45: Message edited by: Foley's Body ] -------------------- Bandit: Hey Bob, why aren't we running after them? Archer Bob: Cuz if dose n00bz run dey got no gud ****. Bandit:oh Bob: And that isn't a cave, its a dragon... Posts: 59 | Registered: Saturday, October 15 2005 07:00 |
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