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Shaper
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Would it be possible to take part in a siege, marshalling defences and such? This would be cool, and fits in well with a scenario I'm brewing up.

If this is possible, will it be possible to control them, or even give them advice?

[ Monday, February 09, 2004 02:48: Message edited by: SupaNik ]

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Well, you could always have them as a character with a custom graphic... an NPC.

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Triad Mage
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quote:
Originally written by SupaNik:

Would it be possible to take part in a siege, marshalling defences and such? This would be cool, and fits in well with a scenario I'm brewing up.

If this is possible, will it be possible to control them, or even give them advice?

It is certainly possible. There would be many ways to do it, but none are simple and built in.

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Guardian
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Well yes, some ARE simple. But built-in, no.

A siege is the main part (practically the whole part) of the third installment to a planned trilogy of mine. And depending on which side you took to begin with, will decide which side of the wall you are fighting from.

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Shaper
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Good. I am also planning a series of scenarios, but mine will be a quadrilogy, I'm hoping! Does that mean reinforcements will also be possible, i.e. signalling for them, and then holding off the enemy until they arrive?

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Shock Trooper
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i dont know anything about code... but by the sounds of it, these sceanrios sound good. Kepp up the good....planning people!!! :P

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Posts: 358 | Registered: Monday, October 27 2003 08:00
Guardian
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Reinforcements could be done easily in a number of ways. You could say that at a certain point, they automatically come. Or you could supply the user with a horn or such, and when it is used, they show up.

I would use this method, but the entire point of the scenario is that the defenders get crushed, regardless of what side the user is on.

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Shaper
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So then, would it be possible to have a timer? For example, having to defend for a set number of rounds before help arrives?

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Lifecrafter
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quote:
Originally written by [E.E.P.:
Karzoth]
I would use this method, but the entire point of the scenario is that the defenders get crushed, regardless of what side the user is on.
Heck, that's the kind that makes me angry. It gives me a feeling of helplessness, like in Falling Stars. No matter what you do, or how far you go, you lose in the end. (Okay, even Falling stars isn't a total loss, but you "lose" all the same, excluding Thebes.)

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This Side Towards Enemy
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Plah, you control up to 6 people. Some scenarios have you dealing with the best part of a continent or the fate of a whole world. It's surely not that unreasonable for the designer to decide that some things happen regardless? For myself, I prefer the style where you can only modify outcomes, not completely reserve them.

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Guardian
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To an earlier question, yes you can have timers.

And DesertPlah, the idea isn't to annoy. Without giving the story away hopefully, the user has to choose a side, and their choice determines which side they are on. The PLAYER doesn't ultimatly lose, just their cause. I'm still working it out, but the user will probably escape the horrible battle to regroup with their "team". I understand your judgement, but it most likely won't be that way. Or perhaps this whole project is a little too ambitious...?

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DO NOT begin a series with your first scenario. Trust me on this.

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Guardian
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It's not my first...

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Shaper
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He was talking to SupaNik, fool.
By the way, check your messages, Nik. Go into your profile, scroll down, and click the name of the message you want to read.

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BoE Posse
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ADoS, I was talking to both, fool.

E.E.P. - Have you actually released any scenarios? I have played most, and don't recall any by yourself. Though the whole moniker thing could account for that.

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I realize that I only control the less than / equal to6 people, but sometimes, like in Falling Stars, I get so worked up that I'm turning the tide, winning the battle, when WHAM! My cause is defeated.

It's almost like arguing against Alec. :P

EDIT: And I realize that playing the losing side is still worth it, simply for the experience and realization of what it's like to lose.

[ Wednesday, February 11, 2004 18:31: Message edited by: Desert Plah ]

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In Nature's family all are brothers.
Puff and blow and wheeze and hiss;
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I'm still free to come and go.
You can never frighten me,
One who never fears is FREE!"
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Shock Trooper
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My scenario is going to start off with you waking up while your town is under seige by some sort of monster and the items you would need to get would be lined up on a table that you would have to go through. This is possible right.

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Shaper
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I already made a scenario for BoE, but never published it.

And thanks for the maessage Almighty.

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Triad Mage
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Chaosfox - yes.

Also, the Creator is right. Also, you may want to publish scenarios in your series out of sequential order and in 'finishable' order. ;)

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Guardian
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I have released about 7 BoE scenarios, almost all under different monikers, as you've guessed. I don't remember them all (monikers) so it's useless to ask.

If you want to try some of my scenarios, look for:
Day of the Dead
Hollow
Men at Dawn
Rest in Pieces
and The Indolin Wars

The rest is crap, because it was my first. If you do, somehow, manage to find any of these, I suggest Men at Dawn and Hollow (Rest in Pieces being the worst, as the cheesy name indicates). I'd consider those my best, and have considered porting them to BoA, altough that would probably push me to madness. Well, further into madness.

Luckily, I have a good history for finishing most of what I start. And considering BoA should be slighty easier to pull of better stunts, we'll all be able to finish more.

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...the entire "BoA will let us do stunts" attitude isn't resounding with me. It took me quite a while to get characters and scenarios to do what I want. Anyway, I looked on Alex for these, and couldn't find any of them. I trust you're not overtly lying, but could you at least release them somewhere- a website, or similar? It's odd that someone could approach having done half as many scenarios as I and yet still remain anonymous to, well, everybody.

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Guardian
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Sure thing. I admit to not being very active (if at all) in the BOE community. I'll find them and upload onto my site around Monday. And you are right, you have little reason to trust me, you have no idea who I am. I'm not even positive anyone uploaded my stuff onto a site that exists today. I'll try to dig them up and let you all try them.

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Desert Plah - the Falling Stars ending is quite predictable. It an Alcritas scenario, after all. Can't have a happy ending. :P

Unreleased scenarios count for nothing.

E.E.P. - Consider me amazed that you have that many scenarios hidden away. I'll give them a try.

Drake - I disagree. If you're going to start a series, you better not have trouble finishing scenarios.

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Shaper
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I am still sure about the whole quadrilogy thing, but am unwilling to publish my first scenario due to it's absolute appalingness.

But now I'm saving myself for BoA. Maybe, in time, I'll release it to an unsuspecting world!

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Triad Mage
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I was never planning on creating a series. I've always been much more focused on the one scenario, and what keeps me going with it is doing smaller scenarios that are related to it. Or trying to.

BoA does allow for better 'stunts', and we can do them easier.

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