Leaders of the Empire?

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Law Bringer
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If you examine the timeline closely, you'll notice that the Anama moved to Bigail, and were existent before then. I didn't know of it either, and I very much think that in Avernum III Ahonar says he founded the Anama on Bigail in the first place, thus causing a logical error. We could assume that the Anama were wiped out in the Anama war, and were later refounded by Ahonar. It's not an uncommon thing for a sect, eh, minor religion. :P

And is anyone going to reply to my question about the number of Aizonian Emperors? :P

[ Thursday, July 24, 2003 04:08: Message edited by: Arancaytar ]

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Here Arancaytar, while I'm waiting for Photoshop, I did these in Photoplus, feel free to use them if they help. Just mention me though if you do use them. they only took me acouple of minutes

Vantanas Maps

[ Thursday, July 24, 2003 05:45: Message edited by: Zharrad ]

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The first is a woodcut, the second a washed out parchment, right? :)

Dunno how we could fit those different textures into one world map, however. :(

The best thing would be if we could just make the world map in one go - for that we'd need the exact position of the continents; the drawing can be crude, but it must be accurate. Anyone have/can make one? Drakey, TM, *i, anyone?

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I already have done a pencil map of all the continents except Vantanas which I scanned in and touched up. Its justs I dont any of the cities of Vantanas, so once you've done your map of vantanas send it to me, I'll redo my own version so as to stay the same on the worldmap. We would probably end with a big map of all the continents and a map of each one individualy. if you could help me in that area. It would really help.

I know the relative positions already.

Those maps took 1 min or so messing with the effects on photoplus.

Why do I get the feeling you doing Vantanas and I'm doing the rest isn't working out too good. I mean wouldn't it look slightly odd. So..

You just do your map of Vantanas, and I fine with that and I'll just do te big, really big one of the wole world. Ok

[ Thursday, July 24, 2003 06:06: Message edited by: Zharrad ]

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Good idea. I think both versions of the map would probably be cool. :)

When all the maps are done, we should make a site to put them up, yahoo or tripod or somewhere. Would make a nice addition to the BoE webring.

The rest that remains to do are the cities, and the names of mountains, rivers, lakes, forests and stuff. Now the veterans can make themselves useful. :P Put up the info!

[ Friday, July 25, 2003 02:01: Message edited by: Arancaytar ]

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I know the city names etc. of all of Valorim, Pralgad, Aizo. Its just mountains and rivers that don't have names, do they need them.

Avernum/Exile Maps Project Website

It may be bad, but this is just a quick one I made so as to put info on, while I make a better one.

[ Thursday, July 24, 2003 07:13: Message edited by: Zharrad ]

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Doston's general shape.
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Law Bringer
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"Dark areas represent mountains."

Does that refer to all colored areas on the map, or just the two gray shades marked Northerlands and Sarkegrad?

I can do that one too, Zharrad, if you want. :D

And I *still* don't know what the purple and the green stuff in Vantanas is. Tropical forest? Swamps? Countries? What is it?

[ Thursday, July 24, 2003 08:38: Message edited by: Arancaytar ]

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I've never seen that map before, I don't think it has anything to with Ermaria. I assume green is heavily forested areas, whilst the yellow is non forest areas.

Anything you want me to add to the website.

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OMG, that would mean that would mean that I drew the woods inversely :eek: .

And drawing them is so much darn work too.

Well, I'll just pretend it's the other way around.

You'll notice, however, that most of the brown areas are near and around rivers. That's a common location of forests.

And about the maps done by me - host them on your site if you want, but I have my own that I'm working on. I'm going to link to yours, and you can do the same. :)

Doston is, as far as I've heard, the fifth continent of Ermarian, but it's not mentioned in the series. Seemingly another fluctuation of reality caused by BoE scenarios inventing new stuff. Dunno about the relation of that to the rest.

[ Friday, July 25, 2003 02:00: Message edited by: Arancaytar ]

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What program are ou using to make your website.
I'm using RealDRAW coupled with a bit Frontpg. Damm, I wish I had Dreamweaver. Whats your webites name gonna be.

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I'm coding it in a text editor, with the aid of a load of html books. I'm still learning.
My sister has the demo of Dreamweaver, and says it's really cool because it saves her the work of coding. But then, she already learnt html ages ago when I was still mucking about with the trial versions of editors, so she's ahead of me. :P
And I've already thought of a cool title for a page providing info on this world:

"Encyclopaedia Ermariana"

Cool, eh?
Whoops, I actually posted html in this board. Hope I'm not breaking any rule here.
But then, I'm not spamming or anything...

EDIT: This refers to your post below Zharrad, I don't want to have every other post in this thread:

Geocities/Yahoo, same as yours. And I didn't do any more for the map, only things remaining are those mysterious funky colored areas and the cities. And some place names would also be cool. Are there any scenarios set in Vantanas that I could browse through?

Edit 2: I actually forgot to close the align tag. :rolleyes: Bad html-er.

[ Friday, July 25, 2003 02:00: Message edited by: Arancaytar ]

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I don't like coding or frontpage that much, I create my websites as a pure graphic in RealDRAW then splice it into Html, Looks great but a hell to look at if you havn't broadband or higher (256K+). I only know a bit Html, What company hosts your website.

Could you send me how far you've got on Vantanas so I can have a look,

[ Thursday, July 24, 2003 09:54: Message edited by: Zharrad ]

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There were indeed only two emperors of Aizo. Baltimore I lived a heinously long life (around , because of his being of an almost indistinguishable species native to Vantanas, capable of longer lifespans and reproduction from humans. He was a Sylvian, as all Emperors were up until Hawthorne (see E:P). Of course, most emperors of the Pralgradian Empire either attained their position at old age, or were assassinated, which is why you don't see +100 year reigns.

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Being a Pralgradian Emperor sure seems a risky job. :P

However, last time I checked the timeline, Baltimore I. reigned 45 years, which is not all that long. How long do Sylvians live? >100 years, or even >200?

So the Aizonian Empire only existed for 150-odd years. Strnage, but - okay.

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Doston is the 5th continent, but it doesn't exist until the First Cataclysm, which occurs after the collapse of the Empire.

The colored areas on that map represent Doston's political layout a short time before the Second Cataclysm.

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Yes but is it officially accepted in the community

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Not too long ago, someone (darn, I wish I could find that thread, I searched in the whole board), following a question about a world map, posted a map of Ermarian, and said "This map is highly inaccurate: It was made for the arena, which has endured two major cataclysms and a nuclear apocalypse." (See, I'm good at remembering quotes, but hopeless when it comes to names :P ).

From that, I reasoned that the cataclysm/collapse/apocalypse is confined to the arena, and that the arena and the BoE scenarios follow two different realities ("Different probabilities" if have you read "Mostly Harmless" :D ).

If it's widely accepted in here, I guess we have to enclude it in the site, Zharrad. I still suspect that this idea of cataclysm doesn't agree with my world view - but hey, I guess as a noob I have to accept what the community has come up with already. In the meantime, would someone care to elaborate how these cataclysms came to pass? :)

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You still havn't told me what company you use for your website.

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Actually I did, but I did it in an edit of my post above, so you probably did not notice:

It's geocities, just like your site. the link to the site directory is www.geocities.com/arancaytar

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That map of Vantanas done by me was just for a joke, I never intended it to be used as a definitive map of Vantanas, Anyway I'd better get back to making my website.

I've stuck a link to my website in my signiture and theres a like to yours on my site. And about the name. I just threw that together.

[ Friday, July 25, 2003 02:43: Message edited by: Zharrad ]

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Well, I can't really think of any BoE scenarios set after what would be 2000 IE.

The second cataclysm happened much later - something like 4500 IE. The current BoE Arena date would be, uh, in the 6100s.

EDIT : The first cataclysm, which I'm likely wrong about, would be the fall of the Empire followed within a hundred years by some sort of immense natural disaster that caused Doston to be created - for the record, Doston is the largest continent in the Arena plotline.

The second cataclysm, which I have the complete details on, would be due to the escalating war between the Church of the Reaper and the Church of Divine Flame which led to the destruction of the CoDF's superweapon platform, the Saturnalia II, and its collapse onto Ermarian. The resulting impact, gargantuan explosion, and dispersal of nuclear fallout wiped out a great portion of life on Ermarian and blasted civilization back into the Stone Age for 1000 years. Around 600 years have passed in the Arena since then.

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That would imply that before the second cataclysm Ermarian had the technology of space travel. I don't think much of that - but that's my opinion.

But since you say there weren't any scenarios around then, why not split the world up in the dimension that contains the arena (where its ca. 6100 IE.) and the one that contains most of the BoE scenarios (where it's something between 1500 and 2000 IE.)

Since the encyclopædia is going to be for BoE designers, I'd say we break off the history where the last scenario takes place. If people want to make scenarios adhering to the arena timeline, I'm guessing there is enough info on it, if not we could make another site for that.

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Actually, that was the reason for the Second Cataclysm - we wanted to get rid of technologies like nuclear weaponry and space travel, at least for the time being.
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Doston existed well before the first cataclysm. There are scenarios that take place on Doston (I can name at least three) before the collapse of the Empire. Of course, because Doston is not particularilly blessed (half of it is a steppe-like wasteland from its navel up) resource-wise, it was never particularilly explored beyond its lower half. Scientists like Icabod would perform experiments and some-forth on the northern parts of Doston, but that's about it.

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