Making of Avernum 1 - 3
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, June 9 2004 05:13
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Would it be allowed to remake earlier Avernum games with BoA 'engine'? When you compare Avernum 1 to BoA, there are some serious improvements. I doubt it is allowed, but I'm just curious. Posts: 187 | Registered: Sunday, November 3 2002 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, June 9 2004 05:31
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You can go ahead and try, but it would take some tedious work to finish, and most people here have already played Avernum 1-3 so it really isn't going to be anything new to them. And that goes for Geneforge as well...although it would be impressive if you could fit a Geneforge environment in Avernum... -------------------- Austrian Alex Posts: 1307 | Registered: Tuesday, May 7 2002 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Wednesday, June 9 2004 07:06
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If I wanted those, I'd just play the original games. I bought BoA to play new stories. Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, June 9 2004 12:03
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quote:Really? Tell me more It's not like I'm making them.. I don't have the time or skills for it. (Yet) I was just wondering if it'd be possible some day.. :) Posts: 187 | Registered: Sunday, November 3 2002 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Wednesday, June 9 2004 18:29
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Possible, yes. Worth it? No. Oops... I'm still not here... -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, June 9 2004 21:48
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Jeff still sells copies of the Avernum series. He would have you lynched if he found out that you were giving away remakes for free. [ Wednesday, June 09, 2004 21:49: Message edited by: Thuryl ] -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, June 9 2004 22:58
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quote:Exactly, that's what I'm thinking quote:Most certainly not ;) I guess it'd be best to be used only for own pleasure [ Wednesday, June 09, 2004 23:00: Message edited by: RamBear ] Posts: 187 | Registered: Sunday, November 3 2002 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, June 10 2004 13:58
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It would violate your license on the original games, but it may not technically be a violation of BOA's license. I would however encourage people to avoid derivitive works in general. Paying homage to something in a scenario is one thing, but recreating anything not in the public domain and distributing it publicly is generally a violation of the law. Perhaps someone from the BoE community could comment on how this was handled there, as I am sure that in the time BoE has existed this issue has come up on a number of occasions. Posts: 191 | Registered: Monday, October 1 2001 07:00 |
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BoE Posse
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written Thursday, June 10 2004 15:19
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Basically, we don't have to worry about it, because no one ever finishes their Exile III remake. We have had a Resident Evil remake (Domestic Evil), and I've been told that New Life is basically Final Fantasy 7, but we don't generally worry about those. Probably it's not entirely legal, but no one really cares. In short, you can do it, but if it's a Spiderweb game you'll almost certainly not get distributed, and you won't get nearly as much respect as you would if you made an original work. Heck, if people are so short of ideas, I've got a few cool ones that I'll never find time to make. -------------------- Rate my scenarios! Areni Revenge To Live in Fear Deadly Goblins Ugantan Nightmare Isle of Boredom Posts: 1423 | Registered: Sunday, October 7 2001 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Thursday, June 10 2004 18:56
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New Life just completely rips off FF7. It's not ACTUALLY FF7. :P Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Friday, June 11 2004 01:23
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This has been discussed on the BoA forum, in this thread. As you can see, everyone who replied (except for me) hated the idea, and no one (except for Kennedy, who started the thread) thought it was possible. I still don't think it's a very bad idea, but read this thread before you consider it further. -------------------- Rufo, Vahnatai Ka, Te Pinoat Posts: 30 | Registered: Friday, April 2 2004 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Friday, June 11 2004 01:24
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It would be fun to play for people who don't have the other Avernum games themselves. But I don't have number 1 or 2, but I've won 3, so the time-frame would just make it confusing, not to mention that it is impossible to copy it absolutely perfect. Though if they're anything like Exile 1 -(I got the demo), they could do with serious remaking. If you do it, please let me know when it's ready for testing, I'll help. -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Avernum?" ~ Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). -------------------- MY FORUM! Randomosity at it's highest! :) Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, June 11 2004 05:32
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The other Avernum games are almost identical in engine to Avernum 3. And since you apparently haven't picked this up yet, remaking the Avernum series as BoA scenarios is *illegal.* -------------------- There are two kinds of game players...those who are newbies, and those who were. Posts: 322 | Registered: Monday, April 12 2004 07:00 |