Color swapping?
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Warrior
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written Sunday, April 13 2003 21:52
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An idea that might increase the flexibility of graphics is the ability to swap certain colors with other colors. I noticed that there are many user made graphics that often times seam to just be recolors of the original done by shifting the hue slightly. By adding such a feature to the engine you could use a single graphic and have it display it in several diferent colors. Another way of doing this would be to have set range of colors (usualy blue) that could be replaced with a diferent range of colors. I've seen this done in Duke Nukem 3D and Daggerfall, but I believe that both those titles only had 256 colors, I don't know how well it would work in true color. The hue adjustment idea would probably still work though, (I think they offer this in rpg maker 2k). Posts: 141 | Registered: Saturday, April 20 2002 07:00 |
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BoE Posse
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written Monday, April 14 2003 05:10
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I like the idea! But it probably won't happen. And poor Daniel Ray would be out of a job! -------------------- All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream. Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/ Visit Alexandria, the BoE Scenario Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boe/alexandriajs/ Posts: 653 | Registered: Thursday, September 27 2001 07:00 |
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(TGM)
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written Monday, April 14 2003 06:54
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Ain't the BoA.. whatever, forgot the name, full of his edits? ;) No offense Mr. Ray, but even I could do better.. :P -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 911 | Registered: Sunday, November 24 2002 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Monday, April 14 2003 07:12
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No offense taken. I'm not a good artist, so I leave the more complex work to those who are. Posts: 422 | Registered: Tuesday, October 16 2001 07:00 |
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(TGM)
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written Monday, April 14 2003 07:33
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You're Daniel Ray? Ohh.. I never knew.. Well, if you took it as an insult, I am sorry, but as you said you didn't, I'm not sorry. :P -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 911 | Registered: Sunday, November 24 2002 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Monday, April 14 2003 07:47
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He may not do much else besides pallet shifts, but they're good pallet shifts. Much better than what I can do with my lame editing programs. [ Monday, April 14, 2003 07:50: Message edited by: *Sodium Cyanide* ] -------------------- PhoenixNinjas! Ninja-Moderation! What we need is Urban Wisdom! Vote Wise Man! Posts: 1277 | Registered: Monday, June 24 2002 07:00 |
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(TGM)
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written Monday, April 14 2003 10:02
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*cough*use Paint!*cough* :D -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 911 | Registered: Sunday, November 24 2002 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Monday, April 14 2003 12:56
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MS Paint? *falls over laughing* No. That takes forever. You have to do all the color-changing manually, unless there's something I missed, or if there's been an update. I use Paint Shop Pro. It works much better than MSPaint. -------------------- My Myspace, with some of my audial and visual art The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Monday, April 14 2003 14:34
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Simple color shifts are pretty pointless to post as custom graphics, or as edits because they're so easy to do that anyone with Paintshop/Photoshop can do it with a handful of clicks. If you look at the Avernum Series, this was one of the most disappointing aspects about the graphics. The difference between a slith and a slith warrior and a slith chieftain was nothing more than a few cheap hue/saturation morphs. Yes, I am guilty of basically having done this for my Dryad, but that was just a beginning graphic for me. As soon as I do another, better version, I'll ask Drakefyre to remove and replace it... I'd better get on that. EDIT: Program Title Clarification [ Monday, April 14, 2003 17:41: Message edited by: Necris Omega ] -------------------- Razordisk Frisbee Golf Posts: 168 | Registered: Saturday, October 26 2002 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Monday, April 14 2003 17:00
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Paint? Are you crazy? You have to switch the Red/Green/Blue values for every single little pixel... Are there any freeware graphics programs that can do color shifts? -------------------- "If you held a weapon to Fwiffo's head, he would say anything you wanted him to. In fact, if you held a vegetable to Fwiffo's head, he'd say whatever you wanted him to." - Spathi high council, Star Control 2. Posts: 346 | Registered: Sunday, December 30 2001 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Monday, April 14 2003 17:09
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Yes. Actually, the program I use is effectively freeware. (Technically, you can register it, and theoretically get a better version, but there isn't much point to registering. It's painful to try doing anything other than color shifts with it, but it works well for that.) The program is called EasyPEG. I don't remember where I found it, but a search should locate it with no difficulty. Posts: 422 | Registered: Tuesday, October 16 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Monday, April 14 2003 17:27
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I found it. Ahh, now I can also pack the Louvre with color edits. *Gets trampled by an angry mob* Just kidding, just kidding... :) -------------------- "If you held a weapon to Fwiffo's head, he would say anything you wanted him to. In fact, if you held a vegetable to Fwiffo's head, he'd say whatever you wanted him to." - Spathi high council, Star Control 2. Posts: 346 | Registered: Sunday, December 30 2001 08:00 |
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BoE Posse
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written Tuesday, April 15 2003 04:50
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quote:True ONLY if you are handy with a graphics editor. For those that are not, having these graphics handy is worthwhile. The entire point of the graphics DB is to remove a barrier some might face in development of a good scenario. Color-shifted graphics MIGHT be handy in a number of scenarios, so let's make it easy to use them. The more barriers like this we can ID and remove, the more likely we are to see lots of good scenarios. This is my philosophy, and the driving reason I support these efforts. Now, having said that, we DO need more original graphics for the Louvre. C'mon, those of you who can edit graphics - give it a try! [ Tuesday, April 15, 2003 04:52: Message edited by: Void Master ] -------------------- All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream. Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/ Visit Alexandria, the BoE Scenario Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boe/alexandriajs/ Posts: 653 | Registered: Thursday, September 27 2001 07:00 |
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(TGM)
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written Tuesday, April 15 2003 07:20
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Just remember that you asked for it.. :P Nah, I can try to come up with something un-intresting.. -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 911 | Registered: Sunday, November 24 2002 08:00 |