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The Democrats have, as any idiot can see, kicked ass this year.

As it turns out, contrary to any popular analysis, so has the Left. Gay marriage bans have generally won very narrowly - and they seem to be facing their first defeat as legislature in Arizona: less than the sweep predicted. Marijuana laws failed, but by surprisingly narrow margins - 44% for in Nevada, as opposed to the polled 36%.

Minimum wage laws have passed in every state they have been proposed, most by preposterous margins. Montana, one of the more reactionary hick states in the country, passed a minimum wage increase by over forty points.

It might be hyperbolic, but I'm calling it right now: November 2006 will be remembered as the beginning of a new America, a stronger America, a better America. This has certainly not been a revolution - but it's certainly the biggest development in my lifetime.

Our national nightmare is over.

[ Wednesday, November 08, 2006 01:06: Message edited by: The Worst Man Ever ]
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[i]ALEC KYRAS FOR PRESIDENT IN 2024[/i]

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[ Tuesday, November 07, 2006 23:33: Message edited by: Silent Salmon ]

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We passed a minimum wage increase here but successfully blocked a same-sex marriage ban. Too bad we also screwed over the illegal immigrants. Yea I know they shouldn't be here, but whatever. It's not your state, don't start arguing about it.

19 ballot propositions. That's a record.

I can't believe that there are people who would vote against protecting animals. Only in Mesa would you see something like that.

But overall, the results are good.

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Arnie wins by a landslide. The Republicans will return.

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The governator is his own party. Anyway, I was bemused to watch the Democrats take over. I thought they would because of the low approval ratings of the Republican president and the seemingly constant scandals within their congressmen.

Did anyone watch Comedy Central's Live Midterm Midtacular? All of Stephen's interviewees were reelected!

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The governator is his own party.
And he doesn't represent conservative republicanism ala Bush. So, his vitopry is for moderates who have more in common with Democrats anyway. My original two comments, read together in a subtle sort of fashion mean exactly the opposite as Arnie's win has n/t to do with a resurgent Republican party. But you only get this when you delve into the mind of Sar.

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At least J.D. Hayworth is gone. Good riddance.

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Living in a congressional district where, as one of my friends likes to say, "you can't hit a Democrat with a sawed off shotgun," I am quite pleased by these results. My state re-elected a Democratic governor and turned a Republican senator out. Of course, my Republican representative won by a landslide, but we can't have everything. :P

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I'm somewhat disappointed in the election of Bob Menendez. NJ politics is dirty, dirty, dirty.

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Two years is a long time in the fickle arena of public opinion. I'll declare victory when the same thing happens in 2008 and not a moment before.

—Alorael, who agrees that the election was a victory for both the Dems and the left. The war's not over, though... especially in Iraq. If that's finished one way or another by next year, who will care in another year?
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quote:
Originally written by Andraste:

We passed a minimum wage increase here but successfully blocked a same-sex marriage ban. Too bad we also screwed over the illegal immigrants. Yea I know they shouldn't be here, but whatever. It's not your state, don't start arguing about it.

19 ballot propositions. That's a record.

I can't believe that there are people who would vote against protecting animals. Only in Mesa would you see something like that.

But overall, the results are good.

We also lost all meaningful land conservation measures, and have some ambiguous property-destroying measure linked to anti-eminent domain nonsense. Oh well.

At least we squashed that toad-demon Randy Graf. Congrats on Hayworth!

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Originally written by Oche:

who will care in another year?
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"Of course, the citizens of the United States are humans with a conscience. It's a reprisal vote against the war in Iraq, against the corruption" within the Bush administration, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said. "All this fills us with optimism."
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In an extraordinary joint statement, more than 200 Socialist members of the European Parliament hailed the American election results as "the beginning of the end of a six-year nightmare for the world"
So, no one will remember in the US. Elsewhere, who knows? :D

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Yea loosing on the land conservation bills really pissed me off.

I mean let's sell land to private corporations and increase urban sprawl! Go us! Yay for making a quick buck and destroying the animal preserves!

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Originally written by Drakefyre:

I'm somewhat disappointed in the election of Bob Menendez. NJ politics is dirty, dirty, dirty.
It may be dirty, dirty, dirty, but there is a difference between a corrupt politician who supports the war in Iraq and a corrupt politician who doesn't. Given the choice, I'm happy with the decisions of NJ voters.

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Originally written by Andraste:

Yea loosing on the land conservation bills really pissed me off.

I mean let's sell land to private corporations and increase urban sprawl! Go us! Yay for making a quick buck and destroying the animal preserves!

So, please explain Propositions 105 and 106. I'm a bit hazy on the subject. Also, what were the final results on them?

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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quote:
Originally written by Oche:

I'll declare victory when the same thing happens in 2008 and not a moment before.
Agreed. The Republicans could still turn it around if they made a daring leap towards the center. I think that if McCain or Giuliani ran in 2008 they would easily beat Hillary or whoever. If Condi runs... even Howard Dean would stand a chance.

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quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

quote:
Originally written by Oche:

I'll declare victory when the same thing happens in 2008 and not a moment before.
Agreed. The Republicans could still turn it around if they made a daring leap towards the center. I think that if McCain or Giuliani ran in 2008 they would easily beat Hillary or whoever. If Condi runs... even Howard Dean would stand a chance.

If McCain were to run, I, as a Democrat, would consider him a better choice than Hillary.

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Both propositions failed.

Here's a little history. The Arizona constitution set aside a lot of land as a trust. When sold, the money from the sale of this land would go for public service projects, namely education. This is a great idea, and the two propositions call for the sale of some of this land. Well, a lot of it.

Prop 106- Wants to change this. A board of trustees would be appointed to govern 694,000 acres of it. Sounds good, except that they could (and would) give these lands away for sale, but none of profit would go back to the schools. Bad deal.

Prop 105- This sets aside 500,000 acres for open space. There is no board and the land is saved for when it is needed. But this land would have to be bought and have to go through the legislature. This prop is supported by the homebuilders association.

Both these propositions are crap. I wish people could just conserve land with out wanting to sell it for their own interests.

I hope I got most of the details right.

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I also prefer to delay the celebration until 2008. A large portion of this victory was due to scandals that will be long forgotten by then.

And California voters once again prove why direct democracy is a bad idea:
If you vote to raise taxes you are a fiscal liberal.
If you vote to limit spending you are a fiscal conservative.
If you vote to limit taxes and raise spending, you are a fiscal idiot.

We somehow managed to pass every single bond, including another 20 billion for roads, while defeating every measure with word "tax" in it, including campaign finance reform (funded by 0.2% corporate tax) and support for alternative energy research (funded by taxing oil companies). If that alternative energy research was a bond, rather than tax, it would have passed with overwhelming majority, just like stem cell research bonds did a few years ago, even though bond money has to be repayed double by all taxpayers and this tax was directed just against oil companies.

EDIT: And we also passed Big Brother law (mandatory lifetime GPS tracking for all sex offenders), and just barely defeated parental notification proposition and the tricky emminent domain proposition whose nastier provisions would make zoning, environmental protection, and many other laws too expensive to enforce.

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quote:
Originally written by Zorro:

quote:
Originally written by Drakefyre:

I'm somewhat disappointed in the election of Bob Menendez. NJ politics is dirty, dirty, dirty.
It may be dirty, dirty, dirty, but there is a difference between a corrupt politician who supports the war in Iraq and a corrupt politician who doesn't. Given the choice, I'm happy with the decisions of NJ voters.

Tom Kean Jr. is generally recognized as one of the few NJ politicians with a clean record. And unlike most people in the country, the Iraq War is a minor issue with me, and certainly not one to base an entire vote around.

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quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

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Originally written by Oche:

I'll declare victory when the same thing happens in 2008 and not a moment before.
Agreed. The Republicans could still turn it around if they made a daring leap towards the center. I think that if McCain or Giuliani ran in 2008 they would easily beat Hillary or whoever. If Condi runs... even Howard Dean would stand a chance.

Obama 2008

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quote:
Originally written by Garrison:

Did anyone watch Comedy Central's Live Midterm Midtacular? All of Stephen's interviewees were reelected!
That actually really scares me...

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Originally written by Lt. Sullust:

Obama 2008
Seconded... McCain is slowly being exposed as a pandering old man, as much as it pains me to say it. And if Obama can't get nominated, I propose that the Dems run Stewart-Colbert.

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Afterall, McCain is 72. He'd be the oldest person elected to the office.

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I'm in the boat that says this doesn't necessarily signify a shift to the left. It's just that a lot of middle-of-the-road people are pissed off about Iraq.

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Originally written by Ash Lael:

I'm in the boat that says this doesn't necessarily signify a shift to the left. It's just that a lot of middle-of-the-road people are pissed off about Iraq.
Why are you in a boat?

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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