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His Mighty Tentacle
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Originally written by VCH:

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Originally written by Slartucker:

Hmm. If you're going to make Vlish porn, . . .
From Russia with the love tentacle.

Her Majesties Secret Cervix.

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If I could make just one wish, I would want a tasty vlish.

Geneforge IV. Still no tasty vlish.
Posts: 1104 | Registered: Tuesday, February 12 2002 08:00
Law Bringer
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Go to Jeff's latest interview listed in What's New. You'll see that the chances of a entirely new game are slim to none. Unless you want another genre grafted onto an existing game engine with the same old graphics, I doubt it will happen. How many of you will put up with the Genforge clawbugs/Avernum chitrachs/new game new monster happening again?

The only way a new type will occur is if the graphics are done by someone else to his specifications so he can concentrate on the plot and game engine. Even then he probably would rather continue with what he has now.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
Electric Sheep One
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Jeff needs to make money, but to do this he needs to stay motivated working on his games. Say what you will about the existence of some repetitious elements in his games, there have been significant new elements in every one. I hypothesize that Jeff would get too bored to keep working on games if he couldn't find new enough wrinkles to add.

Jeff has been in business for 12 years, and in that time he has made games set in three different universes. One of the universes is a one-shot game, so far; the others have yielded 7 and 3 games to date. I figure he'll want to add something different in a couple of years. But of course it won't be entirely different; it will build on infrastructure established in other games.

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Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00
Warrior
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Well as much as the chances of a different universe are slim, and also the fact that Mr.Spiderweb will not take our ideas into account we can still get creative and imagine right? So let's just keep this thread to imaginative "what-if" ideas instead...

Anyways first thing for me...I like the idea of starting the game off with 1 character like in Geneforge rather than a party. This allows for a more complex story. I'd like to see some personality and character development.
Posts: 77 | Registered: Wednesday, February 1 2006 08:00
His Mighty Tentacle
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I'd like to see a Geneforge or Avernum type world entering the early industrial age. With crude guns maybe, and more machines.

I for one would be interested on Jeff's take on that sort of thing. What happens when technology really begins to take off in a world like that of Avernum or Geneforge, when suddenly Dervishes and their armor aint so hot any more, because anybody with a pistol could easily do them in. How would the Empire deal with growing problems like Democracy, and the gun, which would even give lowly peasants a voice.

How well would Shapers deal with all the changes brought about by technology. How effective and terrorising could an Agent be when guns, while crude, are so much more simple?

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If I could make just one wish, I would want a tasty vlish.

Geneforge IV. Still no tasty vlish.
Posts: 1104 | Registered: Tuesday, February 12 2002 08:00
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Wow. That article sounded rather... jaded and bitter. Eesh.

Here's the thing. Jeff has two game worlds which have been extremely successful for him. Wildly, fantastically successful, by indie game developer standards.

There are people who play both and will download anything he makes. There are also plenty of people who are just Avernum fans, or just Geneforge fans. If there's a new Avernum game every year and a half, he'll hold onto a lot more of those particular fans than if there's a new Avernum game every three years. Same thing for Geneforge.

Given that he works alone and isn't about to abandon either Mac or PC, that means that if he wants to create an entirely new game, he does it at the risk of permanently and drastically decreasing the momentum of one of the established series.

Therefore, I suspect we will probably see a new series when the fan base of either Avernum or Geneforge starts to decline. And keep in mind that the VAST MAJORITY of the fan base are not the hardcore fans, or whatever you want to call the people on the forums.

(Before anyone starts crying "Geneforge 3" on me, I'm just looking at this from a sales perspective.)

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Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Infiltrator
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Originally written by Student of Trinity:


One of the universes is a one-shot game, so far; the others have yielded 7 and 3 games to date.

If you include the BoX, it's 9 for Exile/Avernum.

And some people might argue that the the GF world is the same as the Exile one.

Crystal shades... shapers... and so on.

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Posts: 564 | Registered: Wednesday, April 14 2004 07:00
Master
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I won't mind if he continues with magic. it is the one thing I respect in both Geneforge and Avernum engines. The graphics still deeply disturb me in geneforge engine based games, but he won't make new graphics, and I know it. industry things would just not really fit him i think, and to be perfectly honest, i can't imagine a world of magic, taking place in a by war wrecked industrial zone. I liked the Avernum world, and I still like it. In my opinion he doesn't have to make something new at all. What I DO want, is to see how other continents of the Empire (like Aizo) are, especially now that Avernum won't get attacked again by the empire.

The vahnatai should start resting again in their coffins, if its up to me, and Avernum should "spread its tentacles" (with my eye on Vlish). what do you know, maybe the next Avernum game will be about the trip a brave band of adventurers makes to aizo, and Avernum 5 will be about the discovery of Aizo (for avernum, that is).

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Posts: 3029 | Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00
His Mighty Tentacle
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But industry is already creeping in to both games.

Golem factory and the new factory. Various mechanical devices. Beam projecters. Ok, a bit beyond the industrial age, but you get the idea. Technology is ramping up, and things are happening outside the control of magic. And there are groups like the Anama... Anybody else catch the little twist about the Anama being plagued by a factory? That is what their future would be if they had their way and had a world with very little magic... Factories and filth.

In the Geneforge world, there are the clockwork golems, drakkons, etc. Tinkers. Machines of all shapes and sizes. Automated factories. Labs. All these great indicators that the world is on the verge of some sort of technological revolution.

I think that is one of the things that has always appealed to me in Jeff's games. The feeling that everything is about to change.

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If I could make just one wish, I would want a tasty vlish.

Geneforge IV. Still no tasty vlish.
Posts: 1104 | Registered: Tuesday, February 12 2002 08:00
Councilor
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It's best not to have technology as we know it (guns, etc.) wipe out magic, but rather have magic and technology blend together to create something we haven't seen before.

Dikiyoba.
Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00
Master
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Yes, that's right, and these things also fit very well into Jeff's games, just not an enormous industrial society. I can't really imagine Mycroft shooting away his fireballs in a wrecked industrial zone, can you?

The aname, well, they weren't that strong, were they? I mean, did somebody actually do something to see where the roaches came from? No. they waited for you to come. In my opinion, if they wouldn't have waited for you, they could have done it themselves also.

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Posts: 3029 | Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00
His Mighty Tentacle
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Originally written by Dikiyoba:

It's best not to have technology as we know it (guns, etc.) wipe out magic, but rather have magic and technology blend together to create something we haven't seen before.

Dikiyoba.

Yes, but what of the various splinter groups that don't like magic? And what of the Empire? I mean, as a question, if you were the Empire as a collective, magic would be far more threatening to the stability of your power than technology. Magic is hard to control. Look at all the wizards sent to Exile. Magic is wild and unpredictable. Technology on the other hand, can be controlled. Somewhat.

The big problem here is, the Empire has all of this wreckage... The destroyed factories left behind after the attempt to destroy the surface. You don't think they are going to sit idly by and just ignore all of this advanced new technology do you?

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If I could make just one wish, I would want a tasty vlish.

Geneforge IV. Still no tasty vlish.
Posts: 1104 | Registered: Tuesday, February 12 2002 08:00
Law Bringer
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I think they would. Their best researchers would be sent to learn everything about it, and then in the measured opinion of some committee the results would be buried in a secret library and the ruins leveled with quickfire.

—Alorael, who has boundless faith in the Empire's desire for maintenance of the status quo.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
BANNED
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You were never the sharpest knife in the drawer were you?
you're probally right.
i was thinking a sort of general game such as either something like...... oh, age of empires style or diablo 2 style.
hopefully it will be one of those

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