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Thuryl
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 17:35 Profile Homepage #0
Whilst watching TV late last night, I saw an advertisement for one of those services that sends soft porn to your mobile phone for ridiculously high prices. Now, among various other attempts at enticement, this advertisement included the phrase "We never stop stripping".

I found it hilarious, because, after all, one has to stop stripping when one runs out of clothes to remove, and running out of clothes is rather the point of stripping.

And so, on with the point of this topic: what really bad advertisements have you seen lately?

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Joseph Stalin
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 17:51 Profile Homepage #1
One that is an oximoron in itself is one telling teens to abstain from sex ,but saying they need to use protection if they decide to have it.I mean in a way its telling them its all right as long as protection is used.

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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 17:56 Profile Homepage #2
Abstinence is now a basic requirement of sex education/advertisement. That said, preaching protection has been shown to give better results.

—Alorael, who is always amazed by how many words that don't actually mean anything get thrown around in advertisements. He doesn't watch TV or listen to the radio very much so he doesn't have any good examples, but they're everywhere. They're something like the linguistic introns (like, I mean, you know) but only in an ad context. Guaranteed!
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Kelandon
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 18:30 Profile Homepage #3
quote:
Originally written by The Dark Crusader:

One that is an oximoron in itself is one telling teens to abstain from sex ,but saying they need to use protection if they decide to have it.I mean in a way its telling them its all right as long as protection is used.
This is only true in a completely black-or-white world. It's entirely possible to say, "It's bad to have sex before you're ready, but it's much, much worse to have sex and get pregnant or get someone else pregnant before you're ready."

Bad advertisements... hmm... every Burger King commercial for the past two or three years. Every Gap commercial for at least twice as long.

[ Saturday, February 11, 2006 18:33: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Dikiyoba
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 18:35 Profile Homepage #4
Originally by Alorael:

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Abstinence is now a basic requirement of sex education/advertisement. That said, preaching protection has been shown to give better results.
It's always good to have a Plan B, unless of course, you work for the Food and Drug Administration. I will never understand why people oppose birth control. Oppose sex before marriage, yes. Oppose abortion, yes (but it's not black and white either). Oppose unsafe birth control, yes. But to oppose birth control all together? It makes no sense. Unfortunately, people who think like that are probably never going away, given that they tend to reproduce.

As for advertisements, I don't watch much TV either. But "new and improved" is an oldie but a goodie, as far as the irony of it is concerned.

There's a toilet paper commercial where they were attempting to demonstrate its strength and absorbancy. The whole demonstration was animated, which isn't particularily scientific or persuasive.

The Carl's Jr. commercial featuring Paris Hilton (if that's the correct name) washing a fancy car with her body for 90% of the commercial before getting to the hamburger and the slogan was really bad and not the least bit funny. Really, it was more of an anti-ad than an ad, given that it made me lose my appetite.

Dikiyoba.

Edit: Added quote.

[ Saturday, February 11, 2006 18:45: Message edited by: Dikiyoba ]
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 19:48 Profile #5
I think some of the text messaging services are child pornographers. The one says something along the lines of "call today to talk to hot women and girls today".
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Jumpin Salmon
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 19:50 Profile #6
What was the phone number?

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The Immortal
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 19:58 Profile Homepage #7
quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

I found it hilarious, because, after all, one has to stop stripping when one runs out of clothes to remove, and running out of clothes is rather the point of stripping.
Well, you could be constantly taking your clothes off while an attendant is putting them back on...

Meanwhile, my take on sex- every moment you spend debating it on the internet is a moment you're spent not doing it.

Take that as you will.

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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 20:05 Profile #8
quote:
Originally written by Prometheus:

Meanwhile, my take on sex- every moment you spend debating it on the internet is a moment you're spent not doing it.

Take that as you will.
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Desert Pl@h
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 20:10 Profile #9
quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

It's always good to have a Plan B, unless of course, you work for the Food and Drug Administration. I will never understand why people oppose birth control. Oppose sex before marriage, yes. Oppose abortion, yes (but it's not black and white either). Oppose unsafe birth control, yes. But to oppose birth control all together? It makes no sense. Unfortunately, people who think like that are probably never going away, given that they tend to reproduce.
There are those of us who oppose birth control by means of a technicality, that teknikalitee being that certain pills cause the death of an organism, whilst others simply prevent the organism from existing in the first place. I'm one of those people who doesn't like "abortion pills" but doesn't give a rip about pills that prevent fertilization. (I actually hope my wife uses them in the first few years of marriage!)

Whether or not prophylactics (I don't even know if I spelled that right, I just wanted to say it) are a no no depends on whether or not you're a Catholic, neo-Pharisee, or average Joe Protestant. I encourage what Kel said, don't have sex…ever. That is what he said, right? Or wait, no, wait til marriage and use condoms if you can't help it. I'm walking what I'm preaching here. Though I'm not wanting to talk much about my personal life…

quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:


The Carl's Jr. commercial featuring Paris Hilton (if that's the correct name) washing a fancy car with her body for 90% of the commercial before getting to the hamburger and the slogan was really bad and not the least bit funny. Really, it was more of an anti-ad than an ad, given that it made me lose my appetite.
Word, brotha.

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Synergy
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 20:40 Profile #10
Where does one begin?

How about those insulting Axe Body Spray commercials which seek to convince post-pubescent American boys that the very whiff of the scent of their product will cause any hot babe within proximity to immeditately go into heat and jump them? Any adolescent who falls for this prurient dreck deserves the inevitable disillusionment to follow.

Besides, it's a known fact that women prefer the smell of vanilla over anything else.

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The Immortal
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 20:52 Profile Homepage #11
Oh, please. If we're going to bash chauvinist advertisments, let's start with the worst:
IMAGE(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000B5S5EC.01-A1061HNO9OEDDI._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

And I don't know why anti-sex sentiment is considered "feminist". There is nothing inherently sexist about the act of intercourse. The only caveat for this is if one assumes that one cannot dispense of one's own sexism, in which case one has already proven one's sexism.

There are certainly many things wrong with the modern "promiscuity scene"- for starters, date rape, pressuring women into being exploited for sex, treating women as objects, rendering them childish and mentally impotent, et cetera. "Sex is being had" is not one of those problems.

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VCH
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 20:54 Profile Homepage #12
Axe was the official smell of my high school. Especially after gym class, the amount of Axe used always surprised me. Well it's better than smelling bad, but it did get overdone.

-The commercials do not lie-

Edit: Funny, I'm listening to Stupid Girls by Pink right know, quite appropriate really.

[ Saturday, February 11, 2006 20:58: Message edited by: VCH ]

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Kelandon
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 20:57 Profile Homepage #13
quote:
Originally written by Synergy:

How about those insulting Axe Body Spray commercials which seek to convince post-pubescent American boys that the very whiff of the scent of their product will cause any hot babe within proximity to immeditately go into heat and jump them? Any adolescent who falls for this prurient dreck deserves the inevitable disillusionment to follow.
I had a teacher in middle school who was convinced that product advertisements were solely intended to convince consumers that the products would actually create the situations envisioned in the ads. I realized later that, in this regard, he was a dolt.

quote:
Originally written by Desert Pl@h:

I'm one of those people who doesn't like "abortion pills" but doesn't give a rip about pills that prevent fertilization.
I hope you're actually talking about chemical abortion pills that you don't like, rather than emergency contraception pills.

[ Saturday, February 11, 2006 21:09: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Synergy
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 21:01 Profile #14
I think you missed my point, TM, as I essentially agree with everything you just wrote.

What annoys about Axe Body Spray commercials and their ilk is seeking to prey upon the most primal fears and desires with what amount to blatant lies—that their product has anything to do with sexual desirability or viability. The mindset of Madison Avenue is not to tell anything resembling the truth. It is to subvert conscious thinking with direct repeated targeting of the subconscious. If you see insultingly stupid images long enough associating a black cannister of Axe with sex, at some point, on some level, some people will begin to associate the two even if consciously they realize the absurdity of it.

Advertising by its very nature seeks to be subersive—exploiting human greed, fears (this one is huge), and desires to peddle cheap trinkets to anyone uncritical or Pavlovian enough to fall for it.

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Sir David
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 21:13 Profile #15
I don't watch TV much and I tend to ignore Internet advertisements, but I love anti-ads. I don't mean the kind Dikiyoba mentioned, although that's close - I'm talking about the kind of ad that says something negative about the product itself. You may think, who would ever pay money for that? But watch ads more closely, and you'll see what I mean. In a typical hour-long TV show, I'd say there are at least one or two anti-ads. It's really quite ridiculous.

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Kelandon
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 21:14 Profile Homepage #16
quote:
Originally written by Synergy:

If you see insultingly stupid images long enough associating a black cannister of Axe with sex, at some point, on some level, some people will begin to associate the two even if consciously they realize the absurdity of it.
Even if you show me Paris Hilton scantily clad and suggestively eating a Carl's Jr. burger ten thousand times, I'm not sure that I'll associate eating at Carl's Jr. with having sex with Paris Hilton. Likewise, Axe body spray is tacky, and even if you showed Angelina Jolie stripping in an Axe commercial, I would not ever think otherwise.

And I don't think that I'm unusual with regard to this.

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Synergy
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 21:19 Profile #17
So then, if most people are like you, impervious to suggestion consciously or otherwise, why do companies spend millions shoveling us advertisements?

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Kelandon
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 21:26 Profile Homepage #18
Brand name recognition, primarily. If you are entertained by a commercial (which is completely different from believing that a commercial is fact), you may even talk about it with your friends, which means that everyone knows what Axe spray is.

Look, it's working!

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Synergy
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 21:31 Profile #19
If name-brand recognition is the only significant goal of advertising, and it is the primary one undoubtedly, then why do so many commericials in some way seek to inform us of the dubious "merits" of their product, rather than merely amuse and captivate us with flashing lights and scantily-clad vixens holding up the product? Surely they aim at more than mere awareness of the existence of their product.

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Dikiyoba
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 21:35 Profile Homepage #20
There's a difference between knowing what a product is and buying that product. I'm not about to buy Axe or Tag body spray (I'm pretty sure there are two similar products that are about the same in terms of bad advetising).

Admittedly, Dikiyoba hates body sprays, cologne, perfume, lotions, etc. because they give Dikiyoba a headache. But Dikiyoba wouldn't still wouldn't go out and buy them if Dikiyoba wasn't.

Edit: Synergy, if they didn't attempt to explain what the product is useful for, no one would have any idea what it is for and wouldn't go out and buy it. There are some commercials like that, but that's a whole different form of bad advertising. It's like seeing a movie preview that says who all the actors are but nothing about the plot.

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The Immortal
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 21:42 Profile Homepage #21
Here's the golden question: Are we stupid enough to buy products just because we hear their names, or are we stupid enough to buy products because we believe their lies? Choose your color of fur; it still implies that we're all sheep.

As for whether or not people believe that deodorants will allow them to have sex with women, I think that most people are aware that it most certainly will do no such thing.

On the other hand, misandry (though still no competitor to chauvinism) actually exists. Advertisers have already proven that women can be manipulated into hating themselves in order to buy products. If men can be manipulated in the same way, who's to suffer but the poor saps who buy the product? If someone is desperate and buying a product might temporarilly dismiss those fears, the product becomes that much more apetizing.

(And if you're curious, my deodorant is currently a stick of whatever-the-brand-is I found under the sink from '99. The contents have somehow leaked out of the package and encrusted themselves over the side, but it works.)

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Synergy
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 21:56 Profile #22
Heh. Well, it's not exactly "bad" advertising, but what frequently amuses me (when not also insulting me) are all the myriad drug commercials which have proliferated in the last few years. I guess the pharmaceutical corporations expect that the public will convince their doctors they need Lunesta™ or Prozac™ or the latest erectile dysfunction elixir of life after seeing a thirty second commerical.

But what makes me laugh specifically are the hastily quoted required grocery-lists of possible bad side-effects and warnings offered cheerfully:

"Maycausebleedingfoulgasbloatingstomachacherunnyeyeshairlosstoothdecayirritabilityorimpotence.
Peopleusing(x)shouldn'tdrivesleepeatdrinkorusetheirbrains.
Longtermuseof(x)maycausepermanentblindness.
Patientswhohaveusedanyotherdrugduringtheirlifetimearewarnednottouse(x)... and so on.

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Imban
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 22:19 Profile #23
It's even more amusing when, with things like some allergy pills, they never actually mention the ailment that the medicine is supposed to address, instead just telling me that I should talk to my doctor about it. For no reason.
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Thuryl
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 written Saturday, February 11 2006 22:30 Profile Homepage #24
quote:
Originally written by Prometheus:

Here's the golden question: Are we stupid enough to buy products just because we hear their names, or are we stupid enough to buy products because we believe their lies? Choose your color of fur; it still implies that we're all sheep.
The purpose of a lot of advertising (although not all of it) isn't to make you purchase product A: it's to make you choose brand X of product A once you've already decided to purchase product A. Brand recognition is a big part of that. A particularly catchy Coke ad rarely increases overall cola sales by much; it just takes sales away from Pepsi.

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