Does anyone enjoy classic console RPGs?

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I was kinda wondering if anyone here, that enjoys computer role playing games has any passion or find any enjoyment in console style role playing games, or do you find them too cheap and cookie cutter to take them seriously?

I'm kind of talking about the classic style console RPGs like the early Dragon Warrior series, Final Fantasy 1-6, Chrono Trigger, etc...

I myself love the older console RPGs (which is what started my RPG experience) however I have grown to enjoy computer role playing games as well, which is a completely different beast all together. Kind of curious if this works both ways?
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There's nothing wrong with console RPGs. Sure, gameplay mechanics are generally simpler due to the limitations of the medium, but simplicity is not necessarily a disadvantage. My first introductions to the RPG genre were Phantasy Star and Ultima IV, which are fairly archetypal examples of console and computer RPGs respectively, so I've developed a pretty balanced view of the merits of the two.

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I really enjoyed Final Fantasy IV (the one that ends on the moon) and V (with the world having been split in two and then put back together) for the Super Nintendo. The science fictional elements of the former were really neat, while the "job" system of the latter was cool (picking whether to be a Mystic Knight or Thief, etc.). I intend on playing VI some time. I really haven't played any others, unless you count the original Zelda or the first one done for the SNES (which are more of action/adventures than RPGs) which were really great to play and re-play.

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i have never had anything that plays games other than a computer and i have never played any console like games in my life. i think they are evil

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Eh, indeed, ADoS, you have a good point, there. The Shining series, if you've got the emulators for them, are very fun. Well, other than Shining in the Darkness, unless you love to go really retro...

If you find your way into possessing a GBA emulator, I also reccommend Fire Emblem. Plus, if you get bored of RPG's, with a nice Genesis emulator, there are several platformers, such as James Pond and Sonic. Though for anyone thinking about trying out the Sonic Advance series for GBA emulator, I'd advise sticking with the originals, on the Genesis...

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I've never owned a console in my life.

However, i love my ZSnes =P

FF3 was my favourite, closely followed by Chrono Trigger, then Secret of Mana 1 and 2.

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Phantasy Star is what introduced me to consle RPGs. I can't think of any higher quality and more addicting consle RPGs.

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quote:
Originally written by kuc:

I've never owned a console in my life.

However, i love my ZSnes =P

FF3 was my favourite, closely followed by Chrono Trigger, then Secret of Mana 1 and 2.

What he said. In fact, the only thing I have ever owned that had a non-LCD screen is a PC.

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FF6 was a lot of fun until the end when it got too easy... Kefka is also one of my favourite villains :D

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The only console I've ever owned was an Atari 2600. Needless to say, there wasn't much in the way of an RPG available for it.

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Unless you count Adventure, which was pretty fun -- how many other games are there in which you get to fight man-eating ducks with a spear?

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I used to have something like fifty games for the Atari before my mom unwisely junked the console and all of the games. Hell, it might be worth something if I still had it today. However, I don't think I've ever played the game you're describing. My favorites, or at least the ones I can remember, were "Keystone Koopers," "Demon Attack," "Fast Eddy," and "Q-Bert."

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Well, the ducks weren't actually ducks, just dragons depicted as well as Atari was able to. Which, as you may gather, wasn't very well.

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I don't mind console games, but I much prefer computer RPGs and RTS games.

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Atari's Indiana Jones was also pretty fun back in the day, though quite tricky. I don't think it could top Pitfall though.
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"Wonder Boy in Monster World" and "Beyond Oasis" are interesting games too. Does anyone know what the Charmstones in Wonder Boy are supposed to do? I've never figured it out.

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I've played Q-Bert and Pitfall. I think they were different versions though, because I don't think either would run on Atari the way I like to played them. Pitfall: the Mayan Adventure is a good one. Anyone played that?

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quote:
Originally written by Icshi:

I really enjoyed Final Fantasy IV (the one that ends on the moon) and V (with the world having been split in two and then put back together) for the Super Nintendo. The science fictional elements of the former were really neat, while the "job" system of the latter was cool (picking whether to be a Mystic Knight or Thief, etc.). I intend on playing VI some time. I really haven't played any others, unless you count the original Zelda or the first one done for the SNES (which are more of action/adventures than RPGs) which were really great to play and re-play.
I forgot to mention that one of my favorite things about Final Fantasy IV and V was the music. Great music, that. I'd often just sit there, running SNES9X in music box mode.

Although I played these games with an emulator on my Mac, I first saw them being played by my eldest brother. We both had the flu for several days, and I'd just lie on the floor in his room watching him play them. It was weird how much fun that was. Probably one reason why I enjoy these two so much is this happy memory that goes with them.

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I have it on CD, for PC ben. It was good crappy old style. There was this one setting (or cheat, i cant remember) which would go back to the UBER old version, it was almost scary how few pixels were involved. :)

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Well, the ducks weren't actually ducks, just dragons depicted as well as Atari was able to. Which, as you may gather, wasn't very well.
I do, and you're quite right. Is "Adventure" the game in which you attempt to steal treasure out of a Dragon's lair without waking him, then escape out of a bridge which is randomly hit with fireballs? That's about the only Atari game involving dragons that comes to mind.

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Uh, I don't recall there being any fireballs. The object of the game was to retrieve a treasure (apparently a chalice or something, although it could just as easily have been a headless statue given the graphical quality).

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Good heavens. I'm amazed at how few people know about Adventure. When I was a kid, that was the standard Atari game, the 2600 equivalent of Super Mario Brothers. The other game mentioned—involving treasure, bridges, and dragons—was a different game altogether called Dragonfire.

I recently played Adventure for the first time in over ten years and still found it quite fun, though surprisingly shallow. "I'd spend hours playing this?"

I was surprised that I still remembered the secret joystick tricks to get the little player block moving around on the title screen, as well as a few other quirky tricks, such as deliberately being swallowed by a dragon right before the bat swoops down and picks both of you up, giving you a guided aerial tour of the whole kingdom (seen through the dragon's thin stomach lining, I guess).

EDIT: To return to the whole duck motif, yes the dragons in Adventure most decidedly look like ducks. Big flapping bills, two legs, and a big circular body. Altogether reminiscent of that bird-cage creature in Disney's cartoon Alice in Wonderland.

I once downloaded a hacked ROM of Adventure that had been "improved" to make the game more difficult and to make the dragons a little more... um... draconian.

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quote:
Originally written by Icshi:

The other game mentioned—involving treasure, bridges, and dragons—was a different game altogether called Dragonfire.
That's right, that's what the one I played was called. The dragons in that one actually looked quite good, as I recall. At least they were brilliantly colored.

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