New Abortion Laws

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Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, April 10 2005 10:57 Profile Homepage #300 You are wrong. They have DNA or RNA. (source) -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Stormlord Windspire Warrior Member # 4131	written Sunday, April 10 2005 11:36 Profile #301 I won't waste time reading all the other posts so I'll get straight to the point. A woman who aborts at ANY stage should be shot!Even when the baby is just a clump of cells IT'S STILL A LIVING THING!and has the same rights as a normal human.If not more so! :mad: :mad: :mad: If they feel it will be unfair on them then... THATS LIFE!IT AIN'T FAIR!!!! If everyone did it their would be a LOT less humans...hmm or maybe that would make the planet more peaceful :rolleyes: A place with no humans would be one very peaceful place :rolleyes: :rolleyes: -That is the opinion of Stormlord Windspire Drayk lord and Guard of the Geneforge!!! [ Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:37: Message edited by: Stormlord Windspire ] -------------------- I like Biscuits!!!! Posts: 67 \| Registered: Sunday, March 21 2004 08:00
Overwhelming Infiltrator Member # 4637	written Sunday, April 10 2005 12:25 Profile Homepage #302 quote: Originally written by Kelandon: *Yes, it's biologically a human, but it's not humanly alive. These are two very different things.* You are biologically a human and you are humanly alive. The fetus/embryo is biologically a human and humanly alive, since it's human to be a zygote before an embryo, an embryo before a fetus, a fetus before a child, a child before an adult. Spy.there: quote: There seem to be a line of morality between "vegetative" and "conscious" being. Most of you have no problems with eating animals and consider cattle as "not conscious" life. Nobody cares to kill a cabbage or an onion, nevertheless they have a DNA, metabolism and live. A human embryo has at best the consciousness of a salad. Why should it be worthier then? Who says animals don't have conscience? Their conscience is limited and diferent from a human's conscience, but they have. So that's not what separate's a human from an animal, so can't separate an embryo from an human too. So the bottom line is: the embryo is a human being, no matter how conscious or how developed. Or should we kill people with the syndrome of Down? If you want to put in question why should we protect a human life, then you should ask why are murder, rape, theft, etc illegal. dolphin: quote: The being has pulse, it processes food and fluids, but it has no thoughts, feelings or concept of existing. It has no life in of itself. Those two sentences are contraditory. quote: There is no need to kill a partially living thing that requires minimal care and harms no other life. This doesn't contribute to your point of view either. quote: The loss of education, career, or other vital aspects of ones life may or may not be worth the being that is only somewhat living. What a selfish and cruel statement to make. It's better to kill the baby, than supporting certain ordeals. What you're saying is that assassination is ok, because the child's would bother you. You also say it's ok because in your opinion, the embryo/fetus is just "somewhat" a human being. Fortunately wise people don't agree with you, and condemn assassination. Fortunately our ethics and laws aren't based in misinformed personal opinions, like your's. -------------------- Visit the Blades of Avernum Center and the Beta Testing Center -------------- "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9 Posts: 483 \| Registered: Tuesday, June 29 2004 07:00
Dolphin Shaper Member # 5437	written Sunday, April 10 2005 12:38 Profile #303 quote: woman who aborts at ANY stage should be shot!Even when the baby is just a clump of cells IT'S STILL A LIVING THING!and has the same rights as a normal human.If not more so! If they feel it will be unfair on them then... THATS LIFE!IT AIN'T FAIR!!!! How can you justify taking one life for another? To say a woman should be shot for having an abortion makes you no better than those you have so much anger towards. Also please elaborate on why you think a clump of cells should have more rights than a fully developed human. quote: If everyone did it their would be a LOT less humans...hmm or maybe that would make the planet more peaceful A place with no humans would be one very peaceful place Quite a contradiction. First you feel that people should add more people to the world, and they should be killed if they choose not to allow those new people to be born. Than you say the world would be better with less or no humans. [ Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:40: Message edited by: Dolphin ] -------------------- Nena Posts: 2032 \| Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Imban Shake Before Using Member # 75	written Sunday, April 10 2005 12:46 Profile #304 quote: Originally written by Stormlord Windspire: I won't waste time reading all the other posts so I'll get straight to the point. A woman who aborts at ANY stage should be shot!Even when the baby is just a clump of cells IT'S STILL A LIVING THING!and has the same rights as a normal human.If not more so! :mad: :mad: :mad: If they feel it will be unfair on them then... THATS LIFE!IT AIN'T FAIR!!!! If everyone did it their would be a LOT less humans...hmm or maybe that would make the planet more peaceful :rolleyes: A place with no humans would be one very peaceful place :rolleyes: :rolleyes: -That is the opinion of Stormlord Windspire Drayk lord and Guard of the Geneforge!!! Your IQ is two standard deviations below the mean. --- Overwhelming, Kelandon, Dolphin, and all others concerned, I'm locking this thread now. It's gotten completely bogged down in definitions and useless sidetracks. Posts: 3234 \| Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00