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Acocdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are: the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

[ Thursday, March 10, 2005 07:53: Message edited by: Archmage Alex ]

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I have the faintest sence that this was done before under a month ago...any takers?

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Yes, I can read it cleary. There is something to be said about spelling and typing skills though.

[ Thursday, March 10, 2005 08:37: Message edited by: Dolphin ]

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Cambridge isn't the real source of this research, but that doesn't diminish its point.

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Actually, I'm fairly sure it was done half a year ago. Then four months ago. Then a month ago, and then two weeks ago. I'd dig up the links, but I can't be bothered now.

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same here. I looked back a bit and couldn't find it right off, but there there...although it is an intresting point. i'll admit that...

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Yes for us its easy to read but only because we have schema's for how words are put together. People learning to read for the first time or recently reading, would be totally screwed. This is similar to anticipating what word comes next in a sentence without seeing it. All pretty """Elementary""" stuff really.
Actually much of the ability to read what scrambled comes from anticipating the next logical word.

[ Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:43: Message edited by: VCH ]

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That is pretty fascintating.

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i couldnt care less about when it was discovered but that is pretty cool

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Not only am I certain that this has come up on these very boards before, I am certain that Archmage Alex posted in the discussion. Lfies fnnuy lkie taht.

—Alorael, who still finds it both entertaining and educational. It certainly explains how any communication at all manages to occur over the internet lol.
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This gets brought up periodically, and bugs me every time. Just because you can produce an example that's easy to read when the inside letters are scrambled doesn't mean it'll work all the time. Even if you produce 50 examples, it might be that there are 100 more cases where a passage would be completely illegible. A good counterexample I saw at http://typographi.com/000687.php is

"Nreuuoms pmeeononnhs peossss uiapocmltecnd etaaoilxnpn; nwttdtsniinoahg, the pdseuo-snfiiiectc spssliiimtm is not snfiiiectc and eieecndvs are oetfn mdanleiisg"*








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True. Any long and complicated words in a sentence will spoil things in the scrambled version. And yes, this is old, old news.

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When I read that it looked like a load of humble-jumble. However, smaller words like 'the' are easier to understand.

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I think it only works for words you can read easy. If there are words you have trouble reading the right way around, you'll hjave even more trouble scrambled. That's probably why it didn't work.

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For words larger than sex or seven letter it can get kind of difficult.

Edit: Oops I don't remember writing the "for" or sex. lol sorry, I'll leave it because it's to amusing to erase .

[ Thursday, March 10, 2005 22:03: Message edited by: Dolphin ]

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Quite a Freudian slip there.

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And maybe it works better in the English language or languages where you can more or less communicate with smaller words.

I'll try a sentence in Spanish and see if works:

"Aeyr fui al ctnreo creocaiml. Cropme uons ztaopas y uons peltanoas."

"Yatedrsey I wnet to the spnhoipg mlal. I buhgot smoe ptans and smoe sehos."

(but again, it's like arsenic said. No matter how many examples one may find to prove, there are probably more to disprove it. All in the eye of the beholder, I guess)

Edit: Gods it was horrible. Five words were badly spelled.

[ Friday, March 11, 2005 04:54: Message edited by: behind stingy cactus ]

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I think it works better in languages that don't have many inflections (conjugations, declensions, etc), so that word order tells you most of the necessary grammar of the word, rather than having to rely on endings. I'm trying to imagine reading Latin like this, and I don't think it would work.

Or, closer to home for some members of this community, Finnish probably wouldn't work well either.

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Can't Motrax buy his own pants, BSC?

[ Thursday, March 10, 2005 22:37: Message edited by: Thuryl ]

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It would help if you spelled the words right, BSC.

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Whatever do you mean, Drakey? It's clear that BSC went shiopping and botught pants and shoes for SMOE.

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Well, judging by the fact that I can read that without any problems and english isn't even my native languange, the research is right.

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