Tell me if you like programming. . .
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, November 24 2004 16:50
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quote:Is Objective-C cross-platform? Never messed with it or even looked it up--I just know Khothie likes it. Posts: 262 | Registered: Thursday, November 11 2004 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, November 24 2004 17:09
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I have "programmed" (hehe) with C++ and Java. I even passed a basic programming course as a Computer Science student in my university, once. But I can't really program. (Though that was a Java language programming course, not Basic :) ) Besides, the high and increasing unemployment among programmers in this country doesn't motivate me to learn. And the fact that I have an OS9 Mac. Now I study other things such as Sociology at the same university. BoA is interesting, though [ Wednesday, November 24, 2004 17:12: Message edited by: Milu ] Posts: 259 | Registered: Saturday, June 1 2002 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Wednesday, November 24 2004 17:22
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I want to try programming, but its all confusing. Can anyone give me tips on where to start??? :confused: -------------------- You can take my Windows XP when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 394 | Registered: Saturday, November 20 2004 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, November 24 2004 18:06
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Read some of the posts before this page. There are some suggested readings/tutorials. Posts: 264 | Registered: Wednesday, June 16 2004 07:00 |
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Post Navel Trauma ^_^
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written Thursday, November 25 2004 09:54
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Obj-C as done on Macs is not really cross-platform, although a fair bit would probably work on NeXT, and GNUStep may be useful. You can do things in Obj-C that automatically take advantage of OS functions like spellchecking and so forth much easier than in any other langage, although RB is probably easier to use in general. Cocoa uses a slightly different method for linking functions to buttons in a GUI than the Basic-like things I've seen. Instead of the button calling its onClick or whatever when you press it, you have a controller object that generally handles all the UI elements in the window. It takes a little getting used to, but it encourages some more interface/logic separation. [ Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:09: Message edited by: Some Idiot Will Call Me SIWCMS ] -------------------- Barcoorah: I even did it to a big dorset ram. desperance.net - Don't follow this link Posts: 1798 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, November 25 2004 12:34
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REALBasic is coss platform (Mac, Windows, and Linux) There is also a converter for turning VB into RB. Windows RB Stuff: Here1 Mac RB Stuff: Here2 There you will find a useful RB tutorial and example files. Here is a book about programming for OS X: Here3 This is the list of programming languages that I used in the poll, plus all of the ones that I couldn't fit (there are links to the individual languages on the page): Here4 Does this help? [ Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:37: Message edited by: Tbg10101 ] -------------------- Hi. Why is the universe so BIG? Why am I human? How come hot dogs come in packages of 10 and buns 8? This will all be solved in time young padawan. Your quest for the ultimate Aztec manuer is coming to a climax. May the force be with you!!! ······························································ This is where I want you to click! Rate me! Ha Ha Check out my GF 1, 2 and 3 Helper! Ceck out some cool Mac OS X Apps that were made by me here! 10101 Software - You can take my iMac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the wireless mouse! Posts: 179 | Registered: Tuesday, November 18 2003 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, November 25 2004 13:29
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The main problem with RB is that it's saddled with a big, nasty, statically-linked runtime. Posts: 180 | Registered: Friday, October 15 2004 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, November 25 2004 13:42
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quote:Pretty much. If you can get over that, it's awfully slick. Its built-in game controls average 10fps faster than my C++ DirectX engine (granted, this computer sucks greatly), too. It's not at all bad, at least for PC users. Posts: 262 | Registered: Thursday, November 11 2004 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, November 25 2004 13:48
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It seems RB has some OO features, but I can't tell. Does it do duck typing? Polymorphism? In addition, how are its structures? Does it have a 'foreach' style iterative loop? Does it have iterators or generators, for that matter? Closures? Does it do generics? Posts: 180 | Registered: Friday, October 15 2004 07:00 |
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Master
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written Thursday, November 25 2004 16:17
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quote:Heh, just do a Google search and type whatever language you want to learn and then "tutorial." It worked for me. -------------------- -ben4808 For those who love to spam: CSM Forums RIFQ Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Thursday, November 25 2004 16:55
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quote:I'm not sure what a lot of those things mean, but I know it doesn't have polymorphism; every object's class is declared statically. -------------------- 5.0.1.0.0.0.0.1.0... Posts: 508 | Registered: Thursday, May 29 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, November 25 2004 17:58
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OO without polymorphism is like sex without testicles. Sure it's possible, but why bother? Posts: 180 | Registered: Friday, October 15 2004 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, November 25 2004 18:00
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quote:No polymorphism, but you can base classes off other classes (slightly more overhead, which kinda sucks, but it's mostly academic). It has a FOREACH iterative loop. I'm not sure what you mean by generators, closures, or generics (and I'm sure that if I Google them, which I prob'ly will if I see this thread tomorrow, I'm gonna smack myself in the forehead for not knowing). I'd recommend you fiddle with it a bit. It's worth at least a look. Posts: 262 | Registered: Thursday, November 11 2004 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Friday, November 26 2004 08:26
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Does anyone here make plugis for RB? I need them. Sure I have over 2000 but I want more! -------------------- Hi. Why is the universe so BIG? Why am I human? How come hot dogs come in packages of 10 and buns 8? This will all be solved in time young padawan. Your quest for the ultimate Aztec manuer is coming to a climax. May the force be with you!!! ······························································ This is where I want you to click! Rate me! Ha Ha Check out my GF 1, 2 and 3 Helper! Ceck out some cool Mac OS X Apps that were made by me here! 10101 Software - You can take my iMac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the wireless mouse! Posts: 179 | Registered: Tuesday, November 18 2003 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, November 27 2004 03:24
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I learnt to program in BBC BASIC when i was 11. Go me! I'm doing a Java programming module as part of my university course, so i can program in Java to some extent. -------------------- formally Brenitt-Ihrno I'm a very irregular poster, don't mind me. Join me, people NFC FOREVER!!! Posts: 81 | Registered: Wednesday, February 12 2003 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, November 27 2004 04:32
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quote:1) REALbasic 6 is supposed to have polymorphism. 2) There is a sort of polymorphism included, but it's a little annoying to do. You create the class, and then make functions/subs/variables using the EXTENDS keyword, which adds the function/sub/variable to a specified instance of a class. Posts: 262 | Registered: Thursday, November 11 2004 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, November 27 2004 13:05
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BBC BASIC? Never heard of it. :( Does it have anything to do with the Brittish Broadcasting Corparation? :confused: -------------------- Hi. Why is the universe so BIG? Why am I human? How come hot dogs come in packages of 10 and buns 8? This will all be solved in time young padawan. Your quest for the ultimate Aztec manuer is coming to a climax. May the force be with you!!! ······························································ This is where I want you to click! Rate me! Ha Ha Check out my GF 1, 2 and 3 Helper! Ceck out some cool Mac OS X Apps that were made by me here! 10101 Software - You can take my iMac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the wireless mouse! Posts: 179 | Registered: Tuesday, November 18 2003 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, November 27 2004 13:06
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Does anyone know UBB Code? That's what this forum is . . . Sorry I diddn't put it on the poll. :( [ Saturday, November 27, 2004 13:08: Message edited by: Tbg10101 ] -------------------- Hi. Why is the universe so BIG? Why am I human? How come hot dogs come in packages of 10 and buns 8? This will all be solved in time young padawan. Your quest for the ultimate Aztec manuer is coming to a climax. May the force be with you!!! ······························································ This is where I want you to click! Rate me! Ha Ha Check out my GF 1, 2 and 3 Helper! Ceck out some cool Mac OS X Apps that were made by me here! 10101 Software - You can take my iMac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the wireless mouse! Posts: 179 | Registered: Tuesday, November 18 2003 08:00 |
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Bob's Big Date
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written Saturday, November 27 2004 13:38
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Dude, just because it says 'code' doesn't mean you can 'program' in it. By necessity, a programming language handles booleans; a formatting language doesn't, and UBBcode is a formatting language. Half of the languages on this poll are defunct, and quite a few important ones are missing. I'm curious as to what you're high on. -------------------- The biggest, the baddest, and the fattest. Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, November 27 2004 14:16
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quote:I want some of it. Posts: 262 | Registered: Thursday, November 11 2004 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, December 8 2004 15:39
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Sniff ... Sniff Hra! *HickUP* Itsh vrey spimple too tell. . . Ha Ha . . . wat I er hgih on he he ... *#%$&* ... Ok not really but anyway ... Sorry :( -------------------- Hi. Why is the universe so BIG? Why am I human? How come hot dogs come in packages of 10 and buns 8? This will all be solved in time young padawan. Your quest for the ultimate Aztec manuer is coming to a climax. May the force be with you!!! ······························································ This is where I want you to click! Rate me! Ha Ha Check out my GF 1, 2 and 3 Helper! Ceck out some cool Mac OS X Apps that were made by me here! 10101 Software - You can take my iMac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the wireless mouse! Posts: 179 | Registered: Tuesday, November 18 2003 08:00 |