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Apprentice
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I was browsing through some MMORPG sites and I came across this one which I found this "giant roach" monster who looked extremely familiar:
http://pyr8.net/rpgwo/img/screenshot/10112003-2.jpg

Yes, its shape and colors macth exile 3 the lost world's one, with exception of the gree modified back. Considering the quality of the graphic of the roach compared to the rest of the game, we can tell it was brought from somewhere else. =P

Perhaps someone should remind them of copyright law if there any applying in your gfx.
However we gotta keep in mind that some gfx they used in that game were given by someone else and they shouldnt get all the blame for it. Anyways good luck,
Yours,
Ed
Posts: 3 | Registered: Tuesday, March 16 2004 08:00
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Bob's Big Date
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1. I don't see the resemblance. At all.
2. Mr. Vogel is not Sean Howard.
3. Eleanor Roosevelt condemns you to hell for your sins.

[ Tuesday, March 16, 2004 19:36: Message edited by: And Suddenly, Custer ]

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Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00
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There's plenty of free RPG graphics on the web, which also include giant roaches, most of which will probably look alike even if drawn by different people.

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@And Suddenly, Custer:
"1. I don't see the resemblance. At all."
same shape, size, and colour with exception of the greenish modified back. Even the 3 dots in the cockroach behind are identical, and the position of the legs are identical as well. And you come to tell me there is no ressemblance?

"2. Mr. Vogel is not Sean Howard."
Ok, maybe that made sense to you, but not to me.

"3. Eleanor Roosevelt condemns you to hell for your sins."
Again!

@Radiant: what are the odds of drawing one with same size, color, position? Check that game page and check the graphics in general, isnt the roach mismatching? Probably some sold it to them pretending it was an original artwork.

Im not trying to flame or bring down this small game. Its a free web game and therefore are not directly making profit (if any at all) out of other people's work.
However, I work as an artist, myself. And it kind of bothers me to see my works being displayed as property of someone else without acknowledgements. There is something called credential and I think we should encourage people to use it.

Btw, Im NOT the one who drew Exile3 monsters lol.
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This Side Towards Enemy
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Vogel didn't draw the images and very likely doesn't own them. The shape's reasonably similar, but not so similar that it must be identical. More to the point, The Howard comment refers to the author of the terrible webcomics at squidi.net and his propensity for lawsuits. The Eleanor Roosevelt comment refers to your grievous sagotry.

I shan't be bothering to explore that image pixel by pixel, but given that they've put a colour shift on it, by the standards of the Blades community it's a semi-original graphic. I frankly don't think western civilisation is going to collapse or you're going to lose your livelihood and end up hooked on crack on the street because of that image.

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Jeff didn't draw any graphics except for the original original graphics for the first two Exiles. I don't think the graphics in his Exile games are really copyrighted because I know they've been used elsewhere and were supplied by the same art studio.

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Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Master Jeweller
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Exactly. Given that there are many free RPG graphics on the web, it is not unreasonable to assume that Jeff has used a couple of them, himself.
It is also certainly possible that somebody ripped Jeff's graphics and put them on the web somewhere as 'free RPG graphics'. Happens a lot on sites like that, I've seen entire Legend of Zelda spriterips displayed as 'free'.
Maybe you should ask the writer of rpgwo where he got the images.

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Didn't Foglio Studios, or something like that, do the graphics?

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I think most of the game graphics were done by Andrew Hunter, while the Foglio Studios did the UI.. Not sure, though.

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To tell ya the truth... I see no resemblence between that roach and the Exile 3 roach, except for mabey the direction they face.

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Posts: 469 | Registered: Thursday, November 14 2002 08:00
Infiltrator
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I don't remember how the roaches in Exile looked, but I wouldnt make a big deal about it, I have seen plenty of other stuff ripped from places.

And, why is Custer banned???

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Posts: 662 | Registered: Friday, September 13 2002 07:00
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even if it really were copied, it's only ONE graphic, so i don't think it will make a difference.

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Alec being banned? Well it might just be a title change but he has been spamming recently in different topics...

Also, the Mod board was quite busy lately, any connection?

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he probably really is banned. :/

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Speaking of the originals (yes, I'm aware that there are several topics on this already, but I'm not supposed to un-dead topics, and this isn't starting a new one, anyway), does anybody have the original E1 graphics? I've got E2, and I've done some pretty neat things with them, and they're a lot like E1, but I just want to get my hands on them and compare.

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Alec is temporarily banned for the Techgforge topic.

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Does it matter that the graphics are similar?
I mean would you sue someone for drawing a smiley face. Thats similar to one you had previously drawn?

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