Alorael
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, August 26 2003 10:38
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Quoting the code of conduct : "Moderators can lock and delete topics as well. They should only use such powers on topics that violate the Code of Conduct. If they do perform such an action, they must either describe the topic's infraction on the Moderator Forum or actually move the topic there." Three facts : - "continue the story" is a topic wich started on 22/7/2003 - it was closed on 23/7/2003 - the last post on the moderator's board was made on 19/7/2003 Althought I think Alorael does a good job, the fact that he closed the "continue the story…" topic without sending informations to the moderator board bugs me. I agree that it was to be closed but if moderators don't follow the code I will have a hard time trying. Didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings, guess it is hypergligaemia. Thank you for reading. -------------------- /Seawinds are calling Posts: 187 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Tuesday, August 26 2003 10:51
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quote:That might be an explanation. The CoC does not state that the moderator board has to be informed immediately. Next time they meet will be early enough, don't you think so? [ Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:52: Message edited by: ef ] -------------------- Polaris Posts: 1828 | Registered: Saturday, January 11 2003 08:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Tuesday, August 26 2003 11:01
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Eh, I insisted upon that, but we don't do it.  Mod Board is typically used now for bug reports and, well, threads where we demand someone to be banned. [ Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:04: Message edited by: Imban ] Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, August 26 2003 11:11
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"Moderators are expected to uphold the Code of Conduct" "Any major transgression is to be reported on the "Moderators are not exempt from the Code of Conduct themselves. A minor infraction will result in a stern warning. A major transgression will result in probable revoking of his/her moderator status. Any two breaches of the Code of Conduct will certainly result in the removal of moderator status." "What constitutes a major transgression for a moderator: (…) -Abuse of lock, delete, and move powers Moderator Forum, so all moderators and administrators can deal with the member"" An older version of the CoC stated : "iii. If you have a problem with a moderator, please tell us about it. If we get multiple complaints, we will look into the situation and take action. " I don't have any problem with Anorael and certainly don't want to see anyone banned. This topic was to be closed so there is no real point removing moderator's status. I am just bugged. thank you for reading. -------------------- /Seawinds are calling Posts: 187 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Tuesday, August 26 2003 11:25
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Well, should you be seriously worried, consider informing Drakey that you do not agree with the way this board is led. Though really.. [ Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:27: Message edited by: ef ] -------------------- Polaris Posts: 1828 | Registered: Saturday, January 11 2003 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, August 26 2003 11:29
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Perhaps you should reread the topic So Incredibly Sad. It is nothing more than a bunch of spam. -------------------- Lt. Sullust Cogito Ergo Sum Polaris Posts: 2462 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, August 26 2003 12:18
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Perhaps you should read his post, Sullust; he perfectly agrees with it being locked, but as far as I can see he has some inner brueaucratic drive that prompts him to complain... I personally have no problem with definitely spamful threads (that was one) being locked without consultation of other mods, and I don't see it as an abuse of power. But that's just my opinion, and the CoC is of course more important.  I'm just not going to complain about something like that.-------------------- "And all should cry, Beware, Beware! His Flashing eyes, his Floating hair!" S. T. Coleridge --- "It is as if everyone had lost their sense Consigned themselves to downfall and decadence And a wisp it is they have chosen as their beacon." Reinhard Mey. --- Quote of the Week: "I have a high opinion of myself, which makes up for my total lack of intelligence." Anon. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, August 26 2003 13:15
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Basically, SIS, mods don't have to report their every action to Drakey. It's assumed they're responsible enough to decide what to do for themselves; that's why they're mods. -E- -------------------- Let them eat cake! Polaris Boards: The System is Up. Perennially. Posts: 2314 | Registered: Tuesday, January 15 2002 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, August 26 2003 13:49
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I'm somewhat amused that he actually took the effort to note the dates. It's a wonder he didn't copy the screen with boards up as further evidence. -------------------- Lt. Sullust Cogito Ergo Sum Polaris Posts: 2462 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 01:24
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Moderators on General are expected to judge for themselves which topics go too far into spamminess and lock if they deem appropriate. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Vahnatai Did Do It desperance.net - We're Everywhere The Arena - God Will Sort The Dead ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 01:25
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I don't think that he must send a messsage to drakey but rather make a post on the moderator's board, ef speaks of the next time they meet, then why a board ? I didn't made screenshots has it won't have been useful to describe the situation. I agree with the way this board is run and sure a moderator can close a topic without asking anyone but a post in the moderator's board would be good(even if it says nothing, at least we could see a new post is there ).Alorael has not made a major transgression because not reporting is listed neither as a minor nor as a major transgression but, theoricaly if a moderator close a topic every day without reporting why… we can complain to another moderator (hoping it is not a conspiracy of evil blademasters having taken Jeff hostage or being illuminated ).Being back at 125mg/dl I see this topic as come to what seems an end and that it wasn't really worth much. Thank you for reading. Drakefyre is right and so was Alorael when he judged that this topic was to be closed, but a week later he hadn't send a post to say what it was to the moderator's board. [ Wednesday, August 27, 2003 01:40: Message edited by: So Incredibly Sad ] -------------------- /Seawinds are calling Posts: 187 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 02:28
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For goodness' sakes, he didn't need to post on the mod board explaining why the topic was locked. It's as clear as the nose on your face, if not slightly clearer. Now drop it! -E- -------------------- Let them eat cake! Polaris Boards: The System is Up. Perennially. Posts: 2314 | Registered: Tuesday, January 15 2002 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 02:53
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CoC : "If they do perform such an action [lock a topic], they must either describe the topic's infraction on the Moderator Forum or actually move the topic there." So he did have to even if it was clear why it was locked. I agree that there isn't much to say now. -------------------- /Seawinds are calling Posts: 187 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 02:58
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 So you've said it. So this topic can come to a consensual close, perhaps?Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 07:28
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SIS: because it was on GENERAL! that is why. it is sort of the whipping boy for misc. Oh dear lords I just said whipping boy and misc in the same sentence. I may as well say inferno now...  -------------------- Tip of the Day: #13 Stand clear the closing door. That's treason. (THNIK)(Peculiar James, FP productions co, inc) Posts: 816 | Registered: Friday, October 5 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 07:29
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X: Not before it has been reported on the Moderator Forum!! [ Wednesday, August 27, 2003 07:30: Message edited by: Arancaytar ] -------------------- "And all should cry, Beware, Beware! His Flashing eyes, his Floating hair!" S. T. Coleridge --- "It is as if everyone had lost their sense Consigned themselves to downfall and decadence And a wisp it is they have chosen as their beacon." Reinhard Mey. --- Quote of the Week: "I have a high opinion of myself, which makes up for my total lack of intelligence." Anon. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 11:48
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I have a question about Alorael.Is he still a mod?He has his old title back. -------------------- Hello.Nice To Meet You.Call Me OM.Bye. Posts: 64 | Registered: Monday, August 11 2003 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 13:05
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Mods have their blademaster titles only in the forums they moderate. Outside of those the monikers show the custom titles. -------------------- Polaris Posts: 1828 | Registered: Saturday, January 11 2003 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 21:41
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I am still a mod. I'm a bit scarce, since I'm traveling again, but I'm still around once in a while to lock topics without explanation. I don't think any explanation has been given for locking a topic in a very long time. Despite what the CoC says, mods are chosen mostly because they are trusted to make good decisions on when to lock topics, so unless there's a problem no more needs to be said about it. —Alorael, who would say a better solution than to add to the bureaucratic mess would be to take out the requirement. If a problem arises, by all means report it to all the moderators with the alert button and the matter will be discussed on the Mod Board. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 04:59
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Personally I think that all the moderator who wishes to lock a topic should fill out a form. This must be then signed by all moderators, and then given a stamp of approval by the queen. Only then can the topic, which is by now is just burning, be locked. -------------------- Riot Shields Voodoo Economics It's just business Cattle prods And the IMF I trust I can rely on your vote Posts: 530 | Registered: Sunday, September 1 2002 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Monday, September 1 2003 08:54
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Okay So Increadibly Sad, we understand you are, well, sad, but what Alorael did is as much of a crime as picking up a penny off of the street. You have valid points it does not matter to people if moderators don't post on the moderating board thingie. They are big kids and can decide for themselves. -------------------- All your base are belong to us!!!! http://people.cornell.edu/pages/slp29/ayb.html Posts: 138 | Registered: Saturday, April 12 2003 07:00 |
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Babelicious
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written Monday, September 1 2003 09:00
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Some mods get jumped on for even the most minor transgression. -------------------- You are my precious thing Thing of speed and beauty, You are my precious thing As long as you remain beneath me -- Big Black Posts: 999 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Tuesday, September 2 2003 12:41
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After all the rules are there to be blatantly disobeyed, not bent. -------------------- Tip of the Day: #13 Stand clear the closing door. That's treason. (THNIK)(Peculiar James, FP productions co, inc) Posts: 816 | Registered: Friday, October 5 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, September 2 2003 15:04
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I have accepted the fact that these forums are a dictatorship long ago. So I really don't care anymore. I believe this topic is under spam, so can a mod please block this. -------------------- "I am young, I am twenty years old:yet I know nothing of life but despair, death, fear, and fatuous superficiality cast over an abyss of sorrow." All QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT. Posts: 51 | Registered: Thursday, August 28 2003 07:00 |