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Am I missing something? (food items) in Blades of Avernum Editor
Triad Mage
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Profile Homepage #11
We need to say 'clear' because the calls automatically import the last defined creature.

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Am I missing something? (food items) in Blades of Avernum
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #11
We need to say 'clear' because the calls automatically import the last defined creature.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Article - Player vs. Party in Blades of Avernum Editor
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #2
You can always provide a party for use.

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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Article - Player vs. Party in Blades of Avernum
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #2
You can always provide a party for use.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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BoA Editor Cookbook in Blades of Avernum Editor
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #10
Or you could do what Jeff does and have a Word (or HTML) version and a PDF version.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
BoA Editor Cookbook in Blades of Avernum
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #10
Or you could do what Jeff does and have a Word (or HTML) version and a PDF version.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
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Am I missing something? (food items) in Blades of Avernum Editor
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #8
quote:
Originally written by Newtfeet:

Remind me why we have those "begindefineitem 450" and "import = 450" lines in there.

Edit: And crap, I double posted.

It's because we just want to edit item 4, instead of completely replacing it. Starting with begindefineitem 4; will just erase that item.

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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Am I missing something? (food items) in Blades of Avernum
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #8
quote:
Originally written by Newtfeet:

Remind me why we have those "begindefineitem 450" and "import = 450" lines in there.

Edit: And crap, I double posted.

It's because we just want to edit item 4, instead of completely replacing it. Starting with begindefineitem 4; will just erase that item.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
BoA Editor Cookbook in Blades of Avernum Editor
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #3
It's usually spelled 'dialogue'. Dialog boxes are boxes that pop up with options for you to choose.

I can write some stuff if you want, probably about moving the party between towns, creating monsters, etc.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
BoA Editor Cookbook in Blades of Avernum
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #3
It's usually spelled 'dialogue'. Dialog boxes are boxes that pop up with options for you to choose.

I can write some stuff if you want, probably about moving the party between towns, creating monsters, etc.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
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Calls that we wish existed in Blades of Avernum Editor
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #18
That's exactly what I want, and I know that it's likely that it will never happen.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Calls that we wish existed in Blades of Avernum
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #18
That's exactly what I want, and I know that it's likely that it will never happen.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
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You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse!
Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Mac or PC? in General
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #71
There are comparable Macs available for between $600-$800. The high-end for Macs and PCs both cost about the same.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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The Arena - God Will Sort The Dead
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
special items in Blades of Avernum Editor
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #9
When you get into the realm of summons, confusion, charming, etc. (and it can be items that do this, not just monsters), that call will not return the values that you intend it to. Also, when reusing the script, you'll want something that will work in all cases.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
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You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse!
Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
special items in Blades of Avernum
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #9
When you get into the realm of summons, confusion, charming, etc. (and it can be items that do this, not just monsters), that call will not return the values that you intend it to. Also, when reusing the script, you'll want something that will work in all cases.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
====
You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse!
Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Article - Why? in Blades of Avernum Editor
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #20
The only Blades of Avernum scenarios that managed to attract my attention to the end were VoDT and ASR, and I'd already played them in Blades of Exile. Playability and the ever-elusive fun factor are the main reason, but the interesting story is also a large part of why I liked the scenarios. Those scenarios are not a good example of strategic combat except for the Stalker fight, but they were fun and kept me entertained until the end, which I can't really say for a lot of Blades of Exile scenarios (again, one of my major problems with the Adventurer's Club series).

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Article - Why? in Blades of Avernum
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #20
The only Blades of Avernum scenarios that managed to attract my attention to the end were VoDT and ASR, and I'd already played them in Blades of Exile. Playability and the ever-elusive fun factor are the main reason, but the interesting story is also a large part of why I liked the scenarios. Those scenarios are not a good example of strategic combat except for the Stalker fight, but they were fun and kept me entertained until the end, which I can't really say for a lot of Blades of Exile scenarios (again, one of my major problems with the Adventurer's Club series).

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Article - Why? in Blades of Avernum Editor
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #15
My primary reason for playing a scenario is not necessarily to kill things - but it is to have a good time. That can be delivered by something like Quintessence, which combines a good story with humor and intriguing combat, or something like Echoes: Pawns, which is just watching action unfold.

Scenarios like Lamentations, Signs and Portens, and even the Election are all scenarios that exist for story and have forgotten about fun. My ratings for them are much less than scenarios of similar size with a lesser story but a greater 'fun factor'.

The main point is that a scenario needs to be fun and gripping, and it can do that with a story, with combat, or with a combination of both.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Article - Why? in Blades of Avernum
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #15
My primary reason for playing a scenario is not necessarily to kill things - but it is to have a good time. That can be delivered by something like Quintessence, which combines a good story with humor and intriguing combat, or something like Echoes: Pawns, which is just watching action unfold.

Scenarios like Lamentations, Signs and Portens, and even the Election are all scenarios that exist for story and have forgotten about fun. My ratings for them are much less than scenarios of similar size with a lesser story but a greater 'fun factor'.

The main point is that a scenario needs to be fun and gripping, and it can do that with a story, with combat, or with a combination of both.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
special items in Blades of Avernum Editor
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #7
A safer way is to increment (or decrement) an SDF every time one dies, and when the flag reaches the number of monsters (or zero), then all are dead.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
special items in Blades of Avernum
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #7
A safer way is to increment (or decrement) an SDF every time one dies, and when the flag reaches the number of monsters (or zero), then all are dead.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
====
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Website Overhaul and Reorganization in General
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #0
I'm not really sure where to put this, but this is just to inform you all that my website, Drakefyre's Demesne, has been overhauled and revamped to include Blades of Exile and Blades of Avernum sections, as well as a re-organized miscellaneous page.

Also, I should be updating more regularly now.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Vahnatai Did Do It
desperance.net - We're Everywhere
The Arena - God Will Sort The Dead
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Article - Why? in Blades of Avernum Editor
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #7
I think that what this discussion will inevitably turn into is the debate over whether scenarios can be constituted as 'art'. Does an artist paint for the money and for the public, or does the artist paint to tell a story, express his/her self, etc.?

Scenario design is fundamentally different from complete game design. You've already succeeded in making Blades of Avernum a fun game to play - and telling the stories is not really your job. Part of the appeal of BoA is the opportunity to play through a variety of stories from various designers, most of which are shorter than the average game. You've fulfilled the 'fun' requirement already, and it's up to the independent designers to add the story component.

There are Blades of Exile scenarios where plot and story get in the way of enjoyment. Several of TM's earlier scenarios and Alcritas' later scenarios (Falling Stars and Lamentations particularly for me) suffer from just that problem.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Article - Why? in Blades of Avernum
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #7
I think that what this discussion will inevitably turn into is the debate over whether scenarios can be constituted as 'art'. Does an artist paint for the money and for the public, or does the artist paint to tell a story, express his/her self, etc.?

Scenario design is fundamentally different from complete game design. You've already succeeded in making Blades of Avernum a fun game to play - and telling the stories is not really your job. Part of the appeal of BoA is the opportunity to play through a variety of stories from various designers, most of which are shorter than the average game. You've fulfilled the 'fun' requirement already, and it's up to the independent designers to add the story component.

There are Blades of Exile scenarios where plot and story get in the way of enjoyment. Several of TM's earlier scenarios and Alcritas' later scenarios (Falling Stars and Lamentations particularly for me) suffer from just that problem.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy
Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet
====
You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse!
Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Mac or PC? in General
Triad Mage
Member # 7
Profile Homepage #69
Eldibs - I don't know what Circuit City and Best Buy you go to, but all of them nearby me have Apple sections.

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"At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander
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Drakefyre's Demesne - Vahnatai Did Do It
desperance.net - We're Everywhere
The Arena - God Will Sort The Dead
====
You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse!
Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00

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