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The Best Bad Guy in The Avernum Trilogy
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Wednesday, September 15 2004 12:36 Profile #3
Of course there will be a reason for the bad guy. BTW I am not sure if I was too clear earlier, but what I mean is what is the best boss? Of course throughout a scenario you will run into various types of enemies and bad guys. I'm wondering what is the best final fight? Not the entire fight, that can be worked out, just the boss.

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum Editor
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Wednesday, September 15 2004 12:33 Profile #47
I figured out the entire bubble crap, which was annoying, but eventually logical. My scenario is currently 7x7 outdoors. So far it seems to be about 2-4 towns per section (including dungeons and the small little villages that take 5 min). In my scenario there will be three different sects (like geneforge). And thats all you get for now.

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Wednesday, September 15 2004 12:33 Profile #47
I figured out the entire bubble crap, which was annoying, but eventually logical. My scenario is currently 7x7 outdoors. So far it seems to be about 2-4 towns per section (including dungeons and the small little villages that take 5 min). In my scenario there will be three different sects (like geneforge). And thats all you get for now.

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
The Best Bad Guy in The Avernum Trilogy
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 21:16 Profile #0
OK. I have a question for everyone. The more responses I get, the better I can develop my Blades of Avernum scenario. I left a bit open to see what you guys like. So what do you think is the best bad guy? I have a list, or you can name one that you think would be cool.

A. Dragon
B. Vahnatai
C. Insanely Powerfull and Intelligent Cow
D. Human
E. The Person Who Is Your Leader In The Game
F. Demon
G. Slitherazakai
H. Nephilim
I. Nepharim (basically the same anyway)
J. Magical Creations (slimes, alien beasts, etc..)
K. Insane ArchMage
L. Other (and name it please)

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
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SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 19:56 Profile #43
The line break works? ok. The reason I don't break them down is because I am doing a huge scenario. I do a lot of scripting at one time. Normally I can get a full few pages of scripting before running into a problem. The problem is generally not with the scripting itself, but with human errors of not paying attention to every detail, and being new to the entire avernumscript system.

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 19:56 Profile #43
The line break works? ok. The reason I don't break them down is because I am doing a huge scenario. I do a lot of scripting at one time. Normally I can get a full few pages of scripting before running into a problem. The problem is generally not with the scripting itself, but with human errors of not paying attention to every detail, and being new to the entire avernumscript system.

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum Editor
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 12:05 Profile #41
Alright new question...
In the editor, when you are placing a sign, how do you get it to go down 1 line? The return (enter) button does not work because it thinks that you mean done and it closes the box. Putting a bunch of spaces until it goes down also does not work, because it never goes down. So, anybody got an idea?

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 12:05 Profile #41
Alright new question...
In the editor, when you are placing a sign, how do you get it to go down 1 line? The return (enter) button does not work because it thinks that you mean done and it closes the box. Putting a bunch of spaces until it goes down also does not work, because it never goes down. So, anybody got an idea?

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum Editor
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 11:13 Profile #40
SSOOOOOOOOO ANGRRRYYY D&^% YOU PARENTHASIS and SEMICOLONS and COMMAS
oh well, figured the stupid problem. Thanks anyways guys, I'm guessing you probly didn't respond because of the stupidity of the mistake. F*&(ing Scripting

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 11:13 Profile #40
SSOOOOOOOOO ANGRRRYYY D&^% YOU PARENTHASIS and SEMICOLONS and COMMAS
oh well, figured the stupid problem. Thanks anyways guys, I'm guessing you probly didn't respond because of the stupidity of the mistake. F*&(ing Scripting

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
whatsyourscenario? in Blades of Avernum Editor
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 10:10 Profile #11
Oh and I almost forgot to mention, Only 2 squirrels and 3 cows were harmed during the creation of my scenario, but it's not done yet. I'm aiming for 10

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
whatsyourscenario? in Blades of Avernum
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 10:10 Profile #11
Oh and I almost forgot to mention, Only 2 squirrels and 3 cows were harmed during the creation of my scenario, but it's not done yet. I'm aiming for 10

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Creating Spells in Blades of Avernum Editor
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 10:07 Profile #3
Well, Thank you for welcoming me, most of what you guys said covered my question. Unfortunately I was hoping to be able to edit spells, and spell-like abilities. (They really should have thrown in those and the ability to modify/create races.) But I think I have a pretty good idea on the spell-like abilities now. Thanks.

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Creating Spells in Blades of Avernum
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 10:07 Profile #3
Well, Thank you for welcoming me, most of what you guys said covered my question. Unfortunately I was hoping to be able to edit spells, and spell-like abilities. (They really should have thrown in those and the ability to modify/create races.) But I think I have a pretty good idea on the spell-like abilities now. Thanks.

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum Editor
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 10:00 Profile #39
Of course that is not the entire code. The entirety of the code is:
beginstate 14;
reset_dialog();
add_dialog_str(0,"You find a small crevice in the wall, and it opens into a small room. Inside the first thing to capture your attention is a giant orb made of a strange crystal-like material.",0);
add_dialog_str(1,"When you look around a bit more you notice there is a Slitherazakai corpse sitting before it, as though it died staring into the orb.",1);
add_dialog_choice(0,"Leave the crystal alone.");
add_dialog_choice(1,"Try to smash the crystal.");
add_dialog_choice(2,"Stare into the orb.";
choice = run_dialog(1);
if (choice == 1)
{
message_dialog("You back away.");
}
if (choice == 2)
{
message_dialog("You pull out your weapon and beat at it a few times. Nothing happens...");
}
if (choice ==3)
message_dialog("You stare into the orb. You never stop staring into the orb.")
kill_char(0,2,0);
kill_char(1,2,0);
kill_char(2,2,0);
kill_char(3,2,0);
break;

Archmagi Micael, no I have not yet tried your line. I plan on using it when I get to that point and fine tuning it, but currently I decided to go with a much simpler version of sending people to their doom...
BTW, what is the command for a state to play it once and never again, I can't seem to find a good example, is it "end()"??

[ Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:24: Message edited by: SmirfOfDoom ]

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Tuesday, September 14 2004 10:00 Profile #39
Of course that is not the entire code. The entirety of the code is:
beginstate 14;
reset_dialog();
add_dialog_str(0,"You find a small crevice in the wall, and it opens into a small room. Inside the first thing to capture your attention is a giant orb made of a strange crystal-like material.",0);
add_dialog_str(1,"When you look around a bit more you notice there is a Slitherazakai corpse sitting before it, as though it died staring into the orb.",1);
add_dialog_choice(0,"Leave the crystal alone.");
add_dialog_choice(1,"Try to smash the crystal.");
add_dialog_choice(2,"Stare into the orb.";
choice = run_dialog(1);
if (choice == 1)
{
message_dialog("You back away.");
}
if (choice == 2)
{
message_dialog("You pull out your weapon and beat at it a few times. Nothing happens...");
}
if (choice ==3)
message_dialog("You stare into the orb. You never stop staring into the orb.")
kill_char(0,2,0);
kill_char(1,2,0);
kill_char(2,2,0);
kill_char(3,2,0);
break;

Archmagi Micael, no I have not yet tried your line. I plan on using it when I get to that point and fine tuning it, but currently I decided to go with a much simpler version of sending people to their doom...
BTW, what is the command for a state to play it once and never again, I can't seem to find a good example, is it "end()"??

[ Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:24: Message edited by: SmirfOfDoom ]

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Challenging/Fun Moments? in Blades of Avernum
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Monday, September 13 2004 21:10 Profile #9
A lot of the reason (i think) that people didn't put out any suggestions on puzzles is because a personal taste varies so much. Some people like puzzles, some people like black smith puzzles, some people like riddles. It all varies. Me personally I like puzzles that make me think, instead of making me do a repetitive task of stupidy. (like for example A3, push the barrels into the water. A2, finding the athame, push crap into water every time you resurface on the top level.) So I guess thats my only suggestion, probably a hard one to achieve though, for in order for you to make the player think, you have to do twice the thinking yourself. So good luck.

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
The full version of SubTerra in SubTerra
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Monday, September 13 2004 21:01 Profile #7
This is just some guy talking, not anyone who knows why. But, if the registration process is anything like spiderwebs, then every game has a different registration code. What you could do however is allow people to get the game, and simply put a preference file somewhere that people might actually know about and visit. Or at least make sure people find out about it.

Edit: and the registration code for it of course

[ Monday, September 13, 2004 21:02: Message edited by: SmirfOfDoom ]

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Which side do you agree with (not which side did you choose) in Geneforge Series
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Monday, September 13 2004 20:58 Profile #17
Well since no one else has, I might as well... I agreed with the Barzites the most. Not because of their insanity or greed for power, but for their ambition. They were willing to sacrafice anything to obtain their goals. They overthrew the rule of the shaper council, because they were holding them back, and they believed that if you had it in your power, it was yours. But then again I think you guys were probably talking about geneforge 1. Wasnt really paying attention to the category. Oops. Anyways yea.
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Which side do you agree with (not which side did you choose) in Geneforge
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Monday, September 13 2004 20:58 Profile #17
Well since no one else has, I might as well... I agreed with the Barzites the most. Not because of their insanity or greed for power, but for their ambition. They were willing to sacrafice anything to obtain their goals. They overthrew the rule of the shaper council, because they were holding them back, and they believed that if you had it in your power, it was yours. But then again I think you guys were probably talking about geneforge 1. Wasnt really paying attention to the category. Oops. Anyways yea.
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum Editor
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Monday, September 13 2004 20:49 Profile #36
Well, got another problem. Go figure. This one should be simple, but I just cant see it. It tells me that "empty expression on line 46" Well heres line 45-48 (I think) tell me if you see something right off the bat, cause I looked and relooked and I can't seem to see anything wrong. (they should really explain some of these things better) sorry to be wasting your time...

add_dialog_str(0,"You find a small crevice in the wall, and it opens into a small room. Inside the first thing to capture your attention is a giant orb made of a strange crystal-like material.",0);
add_dialog_str(0,"When you look around a bit more you notice there is a Slitherazakai corpse sitting before it, as though it died staring into the orb.",0);

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum
SmirfOfDoom
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Member # 4943
 written Monday, September 13 2004 20:49 Profile #36
Well, got another problem. Go figure. This one should be simple, but I just cant see it. It tells me that "empty expression on line 46" Well heres line 45-48 (I think) tell me if you see something right off the bat, cause I looked and relooked and I can't seem to see anything wrong. (they should really explain some of these things better) sorry to be wasting your time...

add_dialog_str(0,"You find a small crevice in the wall, and it opens into a small room. Inside the first thing to capture your attention is a giant orb made of a strange crystal-like material.",0);
add_dialog_str(0,"When you look around a bit more you notice there is a Slitherazakai corpse sitting before it, as though it died staring into the orb.",0);

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum Editor
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Monday, September 13 2004 20:28 Profile #35
While I do not fully understand why it said "numbers/type of parameters" were the thing that was wrong (unless you consider a ",0" to be a parameter) This fortunately fixed the problem. Thank you for all your help, now I wont have to be full of grrr anymore...

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum
SmirfOfDoom
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Member # 4943
 written Monday, September 13 2004 20:28 Profile #35
While I do not fully understand why it said "numbers/type of parameters" were the thing that was wrong (unless you consider a ",0" to be a parameter) This fortunately fixed the problem. Thank you for all your help, now I wont have to be full of grrr anymore...

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00
Please Help Me Experienced Editors... in Blades of Avernum Editor
SmirfOfDoom
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 written Monday, September 13 2004 20:24 Profile #34
Ok, hopefully that will solve the problem, I will try and let you know. Thank you.

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I start this off, without any words.
I got so high, I scratched till I bled.
Love myself, better then you.
I know it's wrong, so what should I do?
Posts: 94 | Registered: Tuesday, September 7 2004 07:00

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