Canisters (SPOILER)

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AuthorTopic: Canisters (SPOILER)
Law Bringer
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Canisters

I think I'm missing a few, but this will help:

Fire shaping
Create Fyora - Boiling Caverns, Dillame Fields
Create Roamer - Cairn Gates, Illya Safehouse (buy)
Create Drayk - Rebel Camp Aziraph (buy), Wrecked Lab, Monarch’s Realm
Create Kyshakk - Derenton Freehold (buy), Valeya Road
Create Drakon - Khima-Uss (buy), Gesselin Freehold, Northforge Warrens

Battle shaping
Create Thahd - Upper Southforge Citadel, Eastern Rise
Create Clawbug - Dillame, Illya Safehouse (buy)
Create Battle Alpha - Thornton, Rebel Camp Aziraph (buy)
Create Rotgroth - Sentinel Woods, Derenton Freehold (buy), Breeding Pit
Create War Trall - Khima-Uss (buy), Windswept Farms, Northforge Citadel (buy)

Magic shaping
Create Artila - Electrified Fields, Northern Grosch
Create Vlish - Illya Safehouse (reward 1), Circle of the Drayk
Create Glaahk - Rebel Camp Aziraph, Eastern Rise
Create Wingbolt - Derenton Freehold (buy), Poryphra South Road
Create Gazer - Quessa-Uss, Khima-Uss(buy), Northforge Citadel (buy)

Battle magic
Firebolt - Rivergate Keep
Burning Spray - Crenshaw’s Dell
Searer - Cairn Gates
Ice Spray - Western Rise
Lightning Aura - Western Burwood
Essence Orbs - Illya Safehouse (reward 2), Khima-Uss
Acid Shower - Grosch Pits
Kill - The Eye’s Road (only if helped refugees)
Essence Lances - Derenton Freehold (reward 2), Northforge Warrens
Aura of Flames - Northforge Citadel

Mental magic
Daze - Upper Southforge Citadel
Mental Barrier - Chickweed Bridge
Wrack - Eastern Checkpoint
Unlock - Dillame Fields
Terror - Circle of the Drayk
Dominate - Grosch Pits
Essence Shackles - The Golem’s Fens
Strong Daze - Poryphra Ruins
Charm - Derenton Freehold (reward 1)
Mass Madness - Cultist Safehouse, Frostwood

Blessing magic
War Blessing - Therile Colony
Protection - Chickweed Bridge
Essence Shield - Dumping Pit
Speed - Thornton
Spine Shield - Swamp Crossroad, Quessa-Uss
Mass Energize - Wrecked Lab
Steel Skin -
Essence Armor - Grayghost Gate
Elemental Cloak - Cultist Safehouse
Battle Roar -

Healing magic
Minor Heal - Boiling Mudpits
Cure Affliction - Shardfield
Augmentation -
Heal - North Illya Road
Regeneration - Monarch’s Realm
Group Heal - Illya Safehouse (reward 3)
Banish Affliction - Burwood South Road
Major Heal - Valeya Ruins
Aura of Cleansing - Matala's Workshop
Mass Restoration - Windswept Farms

Spellcraft - Dillame Fields(31st area)
Mechanics - Western Burwood
Strength - Breeding Pit (SE room),Sealed Catacombs
Dexterity - Sealed Catacombs
Intelligence - Titan’s Hall
Endurance - Titan’s Hall

zone 2 - Upper Southforge Citadel - Daze, Create thahd
zone 4 - Crenshaw’s Dell - Burning spray
zone 6 - Shardfield - Cure affliction
zone 7 - Chickweed Bridge -Protection, Mental Barrier
zone 9 - Boiling Mudpits -Minor Heal
zone 10 - Boiling Caverns -Create fyora
zone 12 - Therile Colony - War blessing
zone 14 - Cairn Gates -Create roamer, Searer
zone 15 - Dumping Pits -Essence shield
zone 16 - Eastern Checkpoint -Wrack
zone 20 - Circle of the Drayk -Create vlish, Terror
zone 21 - Dillame -Create Clawbug
zone 22 - Rivergate Keep - Firebolt
zone 25 - Illya Safehouse - Create clawbug (buy1) ,Create roamer (buy 2), Create vlish (reward 1), Essence orbs (reward 2), Group Heal (reward 3)
zone 27 - Swamped Crossroad - Spine shield
zone 28 - Dillame Fields -Create fyora, Unlock, Spellcraft (31st area)
zone 29 - Electrified Fields - Create artila
zone 31 - North Illya Woods - Heal
zone 33 - Thornton - Create battle alpha, Speed
zone 40 - Western Rise - Ice spray
zone 41 - Eastern Rise -Create thahd, Create glaahk
zone 43 - The Golem’s Fen -Essence shackles
zone 44 - Rebel Camp Aziraph -Create drayk (buy), Create battle alpha (buy) ,Create glaahk (buy)
zone 48 - Wrecked Labs - Create drayk, Mass energize
zone 50 - Grosch Pits - Dominate, Acid shower
zone 51 - Northern Grosch -Create artila
zone 52 - Monarch’s Realm - Create drayk, Regenration
zone 53 - Burwood South Road -Banish affliction
zone 55 - Valeya Road - Create kyshaak (cultists)
zone 56 - Western Burwood -Mechanic, Create rotgroth , Lighning aura
zone 57 - The Eye’s Road - Kill
zone 58 - Derenton Freehold - Create kyshakk (buy), Create rothgroth (buy), Create wingbolt (buy)
zone 63 - Poryphra Ruins - Strong daze
zone 64 - Valeya Ruins - Major heal
zone 66 - Poryphra South Road -Create wingbolt
zone 68 - Cultist Safehouse - Elemental cloak ,Mass madness
zone 69 - Quessa-Uss - Create gazer, Spine shield
zone 70 - Grayghost Gate - Essence armor
zone 71 - Windswept Farms - Create war trall, Mass restoration
zone 72 - Khima-Uss -Create drakon (buy), Create war trall (buy), Create gazer (buy)
zone 73 - Frostwood - Mass madness
zone 74 - Gesselin Freehold - Create drakon
zone 75 - Northforge Citadel - Create war trall (buy), Create gazer (buy), Aura of flames
zone 76 - Nortforge Warrens - Create drakon
zone 77 - Breeding Pits, Create rotgroth, Strength (SE room)
zone 79 - Sealed Catacombs- Dexterity, Strength
zone 80 - Titan’s Hall - Intelligence, Endurance

[ Wednesday, February 21, 2007 19:06: Message edited by: Randomizer ]
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Shaper
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Cool, Random. Now I don't have to type them all up myself. I should have a complete list written here, and I'll mention any I have if you missed them.

...later.

-S-

[ Saturday, November 25, 2006 23:07: Message edited by: Servile Synergy ]

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Anyone have a list of what's sold where? As far as creations go, anyway?

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Shaper
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These are all canisters bought or offered in exchange for puresteel.

Ilya Safehouse: Buy:

1) Create Clawbug
2) Create Roamer

Ilya Safehouse puresteel quests:

1) Group Heal
2) Essence Orbs
3) Create Vlish

Aziraph Rebel Camp: Buy:

Create Glaak
Create Battle Alpha
Create Drayk

Derenton Freehold: Buy:

Create Kyshakk
Create Rotghroth
Create Wingbolt

Derenton Freehold puresteel quests:

1) Charm
2) Essence Lances

-S-

[ Sunday, November 26, 2006 00:12: Message edited by: Servile Synergy ]

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Heh. I didn't realize so many canisters were sold. I actually meant buying training in creation skills.

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Law Bringer
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Upper Southforge Citadel - Jared
Fyora 280
Thahd 210
Artila 210

Chickweed Bridge - Burkes
Artila 210

Rivergate Keep - Shaper Duncan (depends upon current status)
Fyora 440 (280)
Roamer 880 (560)
Thahd 330 (210)
Clawbug 990 (630)
Artila 330 (210)
Vlish 1100 (700)

Illya Safehouse - Gibbons (only pro-Rebels) canisters at 750
Roamer
Clawbug
Vlish is 1st Puresteel quest reward

Rebel Camp Aziraph - Jared sells canisters at 500
Drayk
Battle Alpha
Glaahk

Shaper Camp Gamma - Shaper Danell
Roamer 480
Kyshakk 2400
Clawbug 540
Battle Alpha 960
Glaahk 960
Wingbolt 1920

Derenton Freehold - Orios Blaze sells canisters at 3000
Kyshakk
Rotgroth
Wingbolt

Poryphra Ruins - Shaper Grim (depends upon reputation)
Kyshakk
Battle Alpha
Rothgroth
Glaahk
Wingbolt

Khima-Uss -Gasspahr - sells canisters at 1500
Drakon
War Trall
Gazer

Northforge Citadel - Jared sell canisters at 1000
War Trall
Gazer

[ Tuesday, November 28, 2006 22:00: Message edited by: Randomizer ]
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What exactly do you need to do to get the cheaper training prices in Rivergate Keep?

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Law Bringer
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Training prices with the Shapers is based upon current reputation. Training prices with the Rebels is usually for doing a quest in Illya Safehouse and Rebel Camp Aziraph.
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Infiltrator
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That can't be right, I did every pro-shaper things so far in a game, and had enough to get all the reputation rewards, but it still gives the utterly ridiculous higher prices.

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Law Bringer
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Did you talk to Alwan? That also reduces the prices.
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Maybe I have to turn in the rebel safehouse first?

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Law Bringer
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If you have enough leadership you can avoid turning in the Safehouse. I don't remember exactly since I got my spells from the Safehouse after the first game. You might need the Repair Moseh quest to get the lower prices. Try after getting the Betray Safehouse quest to see Duncan's prices.
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Ok, what lowers the prices is turning in the safehouse, as when you do so Alwan tells you he is having Duncan lower his prices.

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Infiltrator
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I have a question, what happens if I'm a shaper but I keep using canisters??
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Shaper
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Don't worry, they will still let you work for them even if you use canisters, they have to. All that will change is the ending.

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You lose.
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Guardian
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And a few minor encounters will be different, prices will be higher, and some training will be unavailable.

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...b10010b...
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The change in the ending for canister-using Shapers is pretty harsh, though.

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Yeah I saw the ending with using canisters, but they appeared only in one paragraph I think, it's not too much really...
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Hmm, how does canister usage change the Trakovite ending?

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Shaper
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It's no less sorry a conclusion for you, let's put it that way.

-S-

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Any idea how many canisters you can eat before getting a poor ending?
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FAQSELF
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quote:
Originally written by TraderJoe:

Any idea how many canisters you can eat before getting a poor ending?
13-15.

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