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Law Bringer
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About half of the creations can't be listed until the game comes out so this is a list of those that are from the earlier games and have been revealed:

Fire shaping:
Fyora, Cryoa
Roamer, Pyroroamer
Drayk, Cyrodrayk
unavailable
Drakon

Battle shaping:
Thahd
Clawbug
Battle Alpha, Battle Beta
Rotgroth
unavailable

Magic shaping:
Artila
Vlish
Glaahk
unavailable
Gazer

Jeff has mentioned that some of the higher creation versions are charged which means more essence cost, more strength, shorter lifetimes, and not to be used near open flames.
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His Mighty Tentacle
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Yes, the Flatulent Vlish are DEADLY.

SEE, I WASN'T JOKING!

Oh the Vlishanity.

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Agent
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Why would you want your fellow Vlish to explode? That would be terrible.

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Shaper
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I thought all vlish were flatulent vlish?

No more plated clawbugs? I kind of liked them. Oh, well. I hope Jeff got really creative this time around. Just putting 'ur' in front of a creation name was an easy way out. What does 'ur' mean anyway?

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Agent
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I never used clawbugs. Maybe I'll try them out.

According to Wiki, Ur can mean oldest or first. It can also mean very.
Look, this is not a normal Glaahk, it's a very-Glaahk.

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Law Bringer
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Let's just say except for the names of the 3 new creations, that Jeff didn't spend a lot of time thinking. Most of it went into the basic plot and maps. The combat system didn't get change until part way through the beta testing.
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Apprentice
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Randomizer, do you mean that all these creations can be shaped, or that they appear in-game?

Also, according to the Oxford Genuine UrDictionnary:
Ur. (noun. German.)
1. Original, as in "the source, unaltered". In particular, UrGlaahk should be read like "Original Coca-Cola".
>The new glaahks? Don't stand up for that nerfed crap. (Mark Twain)
2. (hip) Your.
>Ur[Name] is the new My[Name], which is the new i[Name]. (Jeff Vogel)
>"An iGlaahk attacks your party"
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Law Bringer
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This is a partial list of creations that the player could create. It depends upon getting the appropriate level of shaping skill, learning one ot more levels of the right creation skill, and having enough free essence left for the mininum amount. Jeff has two versions, the normal and one at 3 levels of creation skill, Some of the 3 creation level versions are charged versions of the original instead of ur- versions that were in previous game.

For example the charged ornk now does more damage if attacked in the fields and can suddenly die and explode while eating.

This board might crash if I tried to include even a partial list of all the new creations and their variants that Jeff made for GF4.
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Shock Trooper
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quote:
"An iGlaahk attacks your party"
Interesting. What OS does an iGlaahk run?

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—Alorael, who tried to become a deivore once. The priest gave him a funny look after the third wafer.
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Warrior
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Just think how much more impressive Alorael's stats would be if he only used one account...assuming that wasn't an imposter. After all, anyone can claim to be a deivore these days.

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Off With Their Heads
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If you're referring to member 3513, that is someone else. The "Alorael" thing in the signature is a quote, not an impersonation. Alo uses only one account.

Well, except for that business with SMoE, maybe.

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Shaper
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Oh, imagine my delight when I discovered the fearsome Gazer upgrade. I'm not sure if that was in the previous Geneforges, but it's not even called a gazer in G4. If it's safe to reveal, someone else in the know may elaborate upon what it is.

Suffice it to say, I got some good mileage out of that lethal critter, and found it highly gratifying to invoke some unholy wrath on my foes with it. It is also highly useful in getting through some tough bonus areas.

-S- is for Soon...soon.

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Shock Trooper
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Could there actually be a beast more fearsome than an Eyebeast? That was certainly the most powerful creation I ever utilized. Without the assitance of two, Inner Gazak-Uss would not have been possible. I drool.

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Law Bringer
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Never tried the upgrade for the gazer although even one gazer is fun (look he's smiling). I got by just fine with the normal group although I did try some cryodrayks. Pity that the upgrade for drakon comes when there is almost nothing to use it on in the game.
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Councilor
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Originally by Randomizer:

quote:
Pity that the upgrade for drakon comes when there is almost nothing to use it on in the game.
At least that's an improvement over G3. :P

Dikiyoba.
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Law Bringer
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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, except for that business with SMoE, maybe.
What business is that, sir?

—Alorael, who has no further commentary except that he thinks battle creations deserve more attention now that they're able to close and start pummeling rapidly. Range isn't everything it used to be.

[ Friday, November 17, 2006 21:24: Message edited by: Justication ]
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Off With Their Heads
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quote:
Originally written by Justication:

quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, except for that business with SMoE, maybe.
What business is that, sir?

You know what I'm talking about. Even if I don't, except via hearsay.

Unless I'm remember things incorrectly, and it wasn't SMoE but someone else.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Off With Their Heads
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This is, what, only my second double-post ever? Not too shabby, I suppose.

[ Friday, November 17, 2006 21:53: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Law Bringer
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Ah, the UBB is causing duplicate posts again.

I have thought about trying the battle shaping set except that I ran the new tier 5 one in the expert area against the boss monster and was unimpressed with the damage versus essence cost. It cost as much as a magic creation and wasn't any more effective. The only savings is in skill point cost to get the battle shaping.

I think Jeff went overboard on making fire shaping the easiest way to go. My fire shaper type finished with 24 intelligence and 15 fire shaping when he wanted to create something. With that army all he had to do was buff and heal.
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