A lil dilemma...
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 07:32
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Hi everyone, i'm kinda new here, obviously...so please be easy on me~ hmm...juz having a lil bit of dilemma rite now...hope u guys could help! Ah...it's about a choice actually. Between 2 games. Avernum 2. Avernum 4. I've played Exile 3, Geneforge 1/2, Avernum 3 a -long long- time ago, so i'm not really a beginner...but lately my time is fairly limited, because of this..affliction..called The Real Life. So between those two, n judging from the games i've played, which one do u guys think i should focus on? Or rather, try to play all the way to the end... Hmm...from what i've heard, Avernum 4 is really great on combat, but not really plot-wise....n there're also some minor annoyances i've heard here n there in the forums - the Pokemon-like "death" system for example. I'm not totally against it, though it -is- a lil bit unrealistic....but let's not get into that shall we? :) Ah...about Avernum 2. The story as we all know, is quite good. Very good in fact...but maybe the combat is a lil bland? At least when compared to Avernum 4....i looove to have some -real- strategies when fighting, n not juz the usual haste-bless-shield-whatever-wait manuever in every fight.... But then again, i can't really say much, as i've only played the demos of both game...n even so not even until the point of completion...because of time constraints and other stuff going on...so, last but not least...c'mon people, convince me! Sway me to your side!!! :mad: Oh ya, thanks! Posts: 2 | Registered: Wednesday, May 17 2006 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 07:54
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A2. It has some really fun combats at various points (including my favorite combat in any Spiderweb game, the attack on the Ziggurat), and the plot is definitely better. I prefer the engine, too, but that's more of a personal preference. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Councilor
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 08:00
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A2. Dikiyoba says to buy A2. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 08:11
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A2 is more of an Avernum game than A4, so A2. Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 09:03
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I have a better idea buy me A2. :) But, yes, A2 would be a better one to buy. -------------------- "I knocked him out, but I managed to hit the reply button before he fell down."-The person behind him. Posts: 153 | Registered: Monday, April 24 2006 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 09:56
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Avernum 2. Many people like Avernum 4, apparently, and I'm not saying you shouldn't get both - especially if you played Geneforge and liked it - but Avernum 2 beats its successor hands down in story, immersion, game play and just plain avernum-ness. Ask here on the boards, and you will hear "A2" from just about everyone. Edit: And that's just here on the A4 board. :P [ Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:25: Message edited by: Henry Anthony Wilcox ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia • Archives • Members • RSS [Topic / Forum] • Blog • Polaris • NaNoWriMo Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. I have a love of woodwind instruments. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 10:06
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A2. I've won it, and I'll say that there is some immersive combat at the Ziggurat and that the plots start going rapidly downhill afterwards. -------------------- This is my sig. Thanks for looking. :p Posts: 40 | Registered: Sunday, April 23 2006 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 10:41
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quote:I agree that A2 is the right game, but calling the Ziggurat combat "immersive" seems strange. "Massive" is the word I'd use. I also can't quite fathom the plot going downhill afterwards, especially since you can more or less assault the Ziggurat in any order with regards to the other pieces of plot. A2 has a better plot and the nice elevation system. Its combat isn't as varied or interesting as A4's on the whole, but I didn't groan every time I fought enemies, either. There are fewer incentives to abuse the skill system, and exploration is much more exploratory. —Alorael, who also recommends Nethergate because Nethergate cannot be recommended enough. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 13:02
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Remember, when you're at Ornotha Ziggurat, watch out for quickfire: smoking ziggurats can be harmful to your health. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Nuke and Pave
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 15:54
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I'll add another vote to the unanimous "not even worth compairing" opinion. A2 is one of Jeff's best games (along with Nethergate and BoE), while A4 is one of the worst. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 16:10
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I will join the unanimous consensus. I like Avernum 4, but I think Avernum 2 is Jeff's masterpiece (though I haven't played Nethergate). Posts: 84 | Registered: Wednesday, July 10 2002 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, May 17 2006 17:27
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The only gripe I had about A2 that was fixed in A4 was in combat you no longer needed to delay your actions. Being the last person to cast haste/slow makes no difference in A4. A2 has a better plot and is more fun to play. Even knowing the plot from Exile 2 it was a blast. I did wish the final battle with Garzahd was a good as E2. Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, May 18 2006 05:51
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Hmm...okay, thanx all! :) I'm going to play play play A2 now... *crosses fingers hoping tht the fights will be better later on* Posts: 2 | Registered: Wednesday, May 17 2006 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, May 18 2006 05:58
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Good for you, Loknar! And Alorael, what I mean by "immersive" I that it's the kind fight you don't want your mom to tell you to get off in the middle of. Me.com (does not exist.) -------------------- This is my sig. Thanks for looking. :p Posts: 40 | Registered: Sunday, April 23 2006 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Thursday, May 18 2006 13:50
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It's been several years since I played A2. Can someone please remind what exactly the Ziggurat was? I have a vague recollection of it having something to do with the Empire, but then what didn't in A2. -------------------- The Knight Between Posts. Posts: 2395 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Thursday, May 18 2006 13:57
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