Journal is useless!
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, February 1 2006 12:12
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Does anybody have any idea what the journal in your quest menu is for? It's always just empty for me, just curious...... :confused: Posts: 22 | Registered: Wednesday, June 8 2005 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, February 1 2006 12:21
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For most special encounters and dialog, you can chose to record the information you see. It's useful for keeping track of recipies and whatnot. After you record the information, it appears there. -------------------- quote: Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, February 1 2006 12:28
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but how do you record information? and btw, i heard people talking about sholai. what are they? ty Posts: 22 | Registered: Wednesday, June 8 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, February 1 2006 13:41
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Whilest you are talking to an NPC, a little book icon is shown in the corner of the window. Click on that to record what they are currently saying. Sholai are people from outside Shaper lands, it was them that started the whole chain of events off when they landed on the Barred Island and found the original Geneforge. -------------------- "I told you, there isn't an 'any key' damn it!" ----------- "Never send a Henchkitty to do an assassin's job..." Posts: 10 | Registered: Sunday, January 22 2006 08:00 |
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Councilor
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written Wednesday, February 1 2006 17:19
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The journal is still pretty clunky though. It worked better (at least for me) in the Avernum series (or at least A2, which is the only one I have). I never use it at all for G1 and only rarely for G2 to keep track of who will make me stuff with which ingredients. Dikiyoba. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Too Sexy for my Title
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written Wednesday, February 1 2006 22:26
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quote:I cannot believe it. I've played Geneforge for years, and I never knew how to record the conversations. I had always wondered about the journal, but by the time I joined SW I had already given up on it and forgot to ask. I can't wait to tell my lil brother when he wakes up; he kept bugging me about it for months. Edit: You would think that after 3 years in here I would know how to type properly. [ Wednesday, February 01, 2006 22:29: Message edited by: Marlenny ] Posts: 1035 | Registered: Friday, April 1 2005 08:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Thursday, February 2 2006 06:45
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What I find painful is that you can't quickly scroll through the Journal, but have to laboriously click down. So if I record too much, I know it will be too much trouble to find anything. Hence I hardly record anything, and never end up needing anything I have recorded. Hence I have no real use for the Journal. -------------------- We're not doing cool. We're doing pretty. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, February 2 2006 11:41
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ok, well thanks guys. i might use it to record recipes. Posts: 22 | Registered: Wednesday, June 8 2005 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Friday, February 3 2006 05:23
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quote:No, that isn't true. You can use the little blue sphere to scroll quickly: just hold the mouse click on it. [ Friday, February 03, 2006 05:24: Message edited by: MagmaDragoon ] -------------------- Download Geneforge 4: Rebellion You have 6 posts. Nobody cares what you think. - Thuryl Wikipedia may be your friend, but UBB is not. - Dikiyoba Posts: 1310 | Registered: Tuesday, December 20 2005 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, February 4 2006 15:05
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I got good use out of it. Although a good idea would be to allow selectable text to copy (instead of whole conversations/descriptions). -------------------- One of these words is mispelled. Posts: 284 | Registered: Tuesday, January 31 2006 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, February 5 2006 01:31
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There's one game, can't remember if it's Geneforge or not, where even after you delete notes you have to scroll through all the empty slots in order to get to the ones with info saved in them. That's rather annoying. Personally I preferred the exile 1 & 2 model of saving text to an external txt file, which you could then open in the text editor of your choice, to perform regexp searches and so on. -------------------- "I can't read this thread with that image. But then, that's not a complaint." -Scorpius Geneforge 4 stuff. Also, everything I know about Avernum | Avernum 2 | Avernum 3 | Avernum 4 Posts: 1104 | Registered: Monday, March 10 2003 08:00 |
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written Sunday, February 5 2006 03:33
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quote:Exile 3 and BoE sometimes do this. You're right about it being annoying. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Councilor
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written Sunday, February 5 2006 10:04
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Originally by Micawber: quote:It's Geneforge. And Geneforge 2. Seeing the labels without having to scroll through them all is nice, but the deleted slots that don't go away is a terrible feature. [Empty] [Empty] Dikiyoba. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Monday, February 6 2006 04:58
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quote:The empty slots do go away, but I'm not sure what makes it happen. I think it's shutting down and reopening the game. (Don't forget to save!) I use the journal *a lot*, because I only have time to play a couple of zones per week and I need to be able to refresh my memory. I like the journal size, much better than the Exile games. The journal has two minor quirks I occasionally find annoying: 1) If there are empty slots, those are filled first (may be in sequence you deleted them), which can make entries hard to find. 2) If what an NPC tells you changes, you cannot record the new version unless you first delete the old version. For example, Clakkit in G1 tells you different things about what the serviles think of you, Pinner tells you different things about your appearance... This feature is a consequence of the game's method of ensuring you don't record duplicates of entries. It probably shouldn't be messed with, as the alternatives are likely to be more annoying. [ Monday, February 06, 2006 05:05: Message edited by: Vespucci ] Posts: 18 | Registered: Tuesday, June 7 2005 07:00 |
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Councilor
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written Monday, February 6 2006 15:14
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Originally by Vespucci: quote:Thanks for the info. Dikiyoba briefly tested it and it appeared that quiting and reloading the game worked. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 02:45
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The only things I've used the journal for are to record recipies, important coversations that one should definately need to remember and books. Hehe, I'm a bookworm, I like to sneak into my journal and read them time and time again. Oh, I also save whenever something funny happens text-wise. Those are just gems, don't you agree? -------------------- Who am I? I'm a dragon, not a drayk. Drayks can't fly, but I can. I fight with lightning, not fire. Who am I? I'm Tesability Black, the Black Thunder Dragon! Posts: 16 | Registered: Tuesday, February 7 2006 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 03:12
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Indeed. Sometimes I've even taken screenshots, to avoid having to load up that specific save file to read it again. -------------------- Encyclopaedia • Archives • Members • RSS [Topic / Forum] • Blog • Polaris • NaNoWriMo Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. I have a love of woodwind instruments. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, February 17 2006 22:38
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Thus, of course, you would like nothing more than selectable text, right? -------------------- One of these words is mispelled. Posts: 284 | Registered: Tuesday, January 31 2006 08:00 |