Geneforge 2 Trainer
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, September 29 2004 10:51
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I've been playing around with the hex values the game stores in memory, and created a nice little trainer for Geneforge 2. It runs in the background, and creates a nifty little system tray icon of a Geneforge canister exploding ;) Simply load the trainer, then load your game. At any time during the game, press alt + tab to to switch to the trainer. Choose the hacks you wish to use, then return to the game. Hope you enjoy my little creation :cool: - Xixao -  Download the latest version! [9/30/04] Also check out my Avernum 3 Trainer! [ Tuesday, March 08, 2005 22:18: Message edited by: xixao ] Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, September 29 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, September 29 2004 12:29
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um, have you tested for bugs and stuff? I don't really want all of my saved games being deleted. If you have, I'll probably try it. -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, September 29 2004 12:33
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There are more than 2 posts in this forum. Posts older than 2 days are just hidden under the default settings. You can show them using the drop-down menu in the top right hand corner. Please don't post in topics more than a week old, though. Nice work, anyway. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, September 29 2004 16:12
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Yes, it's tested. I was manually modifying the hex values during the evaluation period on the game, loading/saving multiple games to make sure I wasn't corrupting anything. The game saves actually revert to their correct values when you load from a previous savepoint, if you don't activate the trainer. The upgrades you make and the items you buy stay with you, though. After registering the software, I carried the values into a less complex trainer that I have been using for about a week without problems. This one has been in testing now for 3 days, and no problems have arisen yet. It may not sound like a lot, but I spend many hours on it everyday. This will not harm your saves in any way. I'm working on adding an experience hack, along with hacks for your creations. I have found the addresses that control your Shaper's experience (I advanced 26 levels in about 20 minutes), and I'm testing the trainer to see if it's able to handle it. I'll post here any updates I create. Have fun, and let me know what you think :) - Xixao - :EDIT: By the way... if you're worried about your saves, you can make backups of the 'Data' folder to restore at a later point. It won't be necessary to do so, but it should provide a little assurance. [ Wednesday, September 29, 2004 16:14: Message edited by: xixao ] Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, September 29 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, September 29 2004 16:19
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Also, since I know how hard it is to trust someone with only 3 posts, I'm leaving a picture of my in-game stats to show that they actually work. I don't want anyone thinking I'm posting harmful applications. I hate noobs who do that, and I certainly don't want to be under suspicion, so here ya go...  Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, September 29 2004 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Wednesday, September 29 2004 16:25
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Interesting- Have you looked at this ? Though somethings in yours sound much more convenient things like items and such are very nice too. Wow- post 100 How much of that was rather pointless spam? [ Wednesday, September 29, 2004 16:28: Message edited by: macrsp ] -------------------- "Let's just say that if complete and utter chaos was lightning, he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are false'." Posts: 564 | Registered: Wednesday, April 14 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, September 29 2004 17:56
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Very nice. Different approach. The only problem is, there are soooooooo many screens to go through to max your character out. With mine, once I add the experience modifier, you will be able to go into the stats screen, and click the 'plus' signs next to each level, and max them all out at one time. I'll browse through this and see if I can incorporate the spell/creation hacks into my trainer. I just find mine MUCH easier and faster to use. Thanks for submitting that though! ;) - Xixao - .::UPDATE::. I have now discovered the values for Experience levels for both the Shaper and all 7 Creations. Unfortunately, the game freaks out if I use any value higher than 65,500 so beyond that will have to be earned. To compensate, I have forced maximum creation skill points to allow you to build your creations up to their full potential. It should make things much easier, though. I'm currently testing it out. I have 7 Ur-Drakons in my party (yes, my trainer makes that possible ;) ) and they all are lvl 66 as soon as they are created. I'm now working on ways to freeze health levels (basically giving a God-mode), unlock spells and creations, and complete quests/clear levels. I will do some further testing on this before I update the release.    [ Wednesday, September 29, 2004 18:41: Message edited by: xixao ] Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, September 29 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, September 29 2004 19:55
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....:::::MEGA UPDATE:::::.... ----------------------------- Here you are. My new Mega Update. I've added lots, including Creation modifiers. Do tons in a single click! Download from the link provided in the first post. Here's a screenshot: Tested and working :D Happy gaming! - Xixao - Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, September 29 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Thursday, September 30 2004 05:43
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I liked the first one but this sounds awesome. Unfortunatly, I can't download it. Whenever I click on the link it says the page cannot be found. Please help! [ Thursday, September 30, 2004 05:48: Message edited by: Slasher ] -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Thursday, September 30 2004 06:22
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The process for the old one was rather tedious though it could also modify the stuff done-like canisters and quests. This sounds much better even w/o all that. However for GF1 there also is an item editor, would you be interested in iincluding somthing like that with this trainer? Since you don't have to worry about the nodes limitations it would be much more convenient. I believe that the items in your inventory are also set in the same place as the exp and such. -------------------- "Let's just say that if complete and utter chaos was lightning, he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are false'." Posts: 564 | Registered: Wednesday, April 14 2004 07:00 |
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written Thursday, September 30 2004 06:27
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As I asked before, I'd really like to know why It won't load for me. -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, September 30 2004 19:33
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Sorry about that, Slasher. When I uploaded the update, I neglected to rename the file to match the previous version. The link should work now. As for the item modifier, etc, I'm looking into that and other possibilities. There's a lot of hex to sort through, and a lot of experimenting to find what values control what. I'll continue to work on it, and post the updates here. I have a feeling that your inventory is somehow stored in memory using the same method as your character stats. If that's the case, I'll include a sub-module that will allow you to add any item to your "backpack" with just a click of a button. How nice would it be to start the game with the best gear? ;) Please let me know what you think of the trainer once you have tried it out. Any feedback is appreciated :) - Xixao - [ Thursday, September 30, 2004 19:35: Message edited by: xixao ] Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, September 29 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Friday, October 1 2004 14:38
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Thank you so much! I'm trying it right away. Feedback will be posted as soon as I finish trying it out. __________________________________________________ Very impressive. I like the changes you've made, but have you thought of giving the user acess to all of the creations? [ Friday, October 01, 2004 14:41: Message edited by: Slasher ] -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Friday, October 1 2004 18:35
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First impression. Buggy- not as in it deleted my save files but as in the trainer allowed me one or more less skill points for each skill. For strength it gave me 33 Dexterity 32 Intelligence 30- By the time I got to luck I only got 9 points in it. Kinda silly and I don't see why this would happen but just the impression. This only made me close the improve stats window and open it again where I could improve luck to 18 (ie +9 once more) but still it was funny and I just wanted to point it out. The way for the other one was that you just typed in # sequences which can done rather fast. Once more though this far outstrips the mod of Croikles editor. Does anyone here know who Croikle was? Was/is he a part of this community? [ Friday, October 01, 2004 18:37: Message edited by: m's devotee ] -------------------- "Let's just say that if complete and utter chaos was lightning, he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are false'." Posts: 564 | Registered: Wednesday, April 14 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Friday, October 1 2004 18:45
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Ya, I know what you're talking about. Strangely enough, though, I earned those skill levels without the help of any trainer or hack, and it still behaved the same way. It's something in the game itself. Please let me know if you experience any other problems though. Thanks, - Xixao - :EDIT: I've looked further into it, and found a way around the problem. It appears it's an error in the game itself, almost as if you're not expected to reach the max in all stats. When I run the fixed mod, however, the game tends to freak out and the stats bounce from max to zero and back again. It's strange. Also, if you exceed the max by manually adding points to it, when you leave the screen and return to it, the points revert back to their max value. This is certainly a strange problem to have. [ Friday, October 01, 2004 21:31: Message edited by: xixao ] Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, September 29 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Saturday, October 2 2004 02:20
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I found that when I'm making out my stats if I have a 5 in leadership or something and I max it out and it stops at 13, I exit improving my stats, and start again from 13. -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, October 2 2004 02:34
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Yea, the game is designed to disallow adjustments once you hit "x" number of stat increases. My trainer fools the game by resetting those counters when you re-enter the stat screen. Well, I think I'll let everyone play around with this for a while, and I'll go to work on the Avernum series. I'm sure they're all alike, so you should see similar trainers popping up soon for those games :) - Xixao - [ Saturday, October 02, 2004 02:36: Message edited by: xixao ] Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, September 29 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, October 2 2004 04:37
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I read half-way through the posts and got lost. >< So this is basically a character editor for Geneforge? In any case I need to play this again, it's been awhile. -------------------- "Yeah-- you're right. You christians are far too persecuted nowadays. I mean it. We really should stop feeding you to the lions." --TM "Ancient Blessings" My unfinished (and likely to remain that way) BoA scenario. Posts: 135 | Registered: Tuesday, June 22 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, October 2 2004 17:54
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Basically, yes, it could be considered a character editor. It gives you unlimited Skill Points to max out your stats, unlimited gold, unlimited Essence to build a massive Creation army, unlimited health, and insane amounts of experience. You have full control over what modifications are made. More features are in the works, including Skill Level modifiers, and item modifiers. Once the bugs are worked out, I'll release a new update. Enjoy ;) - Xixao - Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, September 29 2004 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Saturday, October 2 2004 18:17
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Another thing you can do with this kind of editor (since you still seem interested) is the quest change thing. I know I enjoyed being able to select any ending w/o doing all the playing was enjoyable. Also one status thing that would be nice to have would be the canister use one. It changes a lot of the game. Also a word of caution. I don't know what kind of rxn you would get to editors for the Exile or Avernum series. If it was able to give say the Orb of Thralni in E1 or 2 (how I know is I transfered a save file from my register version to an unregistered version and could fly to and fro across the Shareware Chasm) then it would not be nessacary to register the game to play. I don't think that this is somthing to promote on this site. But other than that it sounds great [ Saturday, October 02, 2004 18:18: Message edited by: m's devotee ] -------------------- "Let's just say that if complete and utter chaos was lightning, he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are false'." Posts: 564 | Registered: Wednesday, April 14 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, October 3 2004 09:20
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While I'm sure that such a mod would be helpful to others, it is one I'm not willing to do. As a game designer myself, I know how much work is involved in producing a game, and I wouldn't want to rob Spiderweb of their chance to make a sale. If everyone could download the demo but play like a registered copy, the designers wouldn't make a profit for their hard work. In any case, I'm working on new trainers in the following order: - Blades of Avernum - Avernum 3 - Avernum 2 - Avernum It seems a little odd to work backwards like that, but I'm sure the latest games are the ones people are most interested in, so they will be my focus. I'll post the trainers in their proper location in the forums, but I'll provide links here. Keep watching :) - Xixao - Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, September 29 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, October 3 2004 13:20
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Why doesn't this work on mac! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: [ Sunday, October 03, 2004 13:21: Message edited by: Tris10101 ] -------------------- Hi. Why is the universe so BIG? Why am I human? How come hot dogs come in packages of 10 and buns 8? This will all be solved in time young padawan. Your quest for the ultimate Aztec manuer is coming to a climax. May the force be with you!!! ······························································ This is where I want you to click! Rate me! Ha Ha Check out some cool Mac OS X Apps that were made by me here! 10101 Software - You can take my iMac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the wireless mouse! Posts: 179 | Registered: Tuesday, November 18 2003 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, October 3 2004 15:11
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The Mac version and Windows version of the game are two different programs, and the way they operate is not the same. This trainer modifies certain values stored in memory, and is exclusive to Windows 95 and above. Unfortunately, there is no way for me to construct a Mac version for you, as I operate only on Windows. Maybe this will inspire someone to make this a project of theirs? Either way, good luck. I hope you find one that works for you. - Xixao - Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, September 29 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, October 6 2004 16:31
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OK thx. :( [ Wednesday, October 06, 2004 16:37: Message edited by: Tris10101 ] -------------------- Hi. Why is the universe so BIG? Why am I human? How come hot dogs come in packages of 10 and buns 8? This will all be solved in time young padawan. Your quest for the ultimate Aztec manuer is coming to a climax. May the force be with you!!! ······························································ This is where I want you to click! Rate me! Ha Ha Check out some cool Mac OS X Apps that were made by me here! 10101 Software - You can take my iMac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the wireless mouse! Posts: 179 | Registered: Tuesday, November 18 2003 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, October 6 2004 16:33
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Sorry - flood protection double sent this. :( [ Wednesday, October 06, 2004 16:35: Message edited by: Tris10101 ] -------------------- Hi. Why is the universe so BIG? Why am I human? How come hot dogs come in packages of 10 and buns 8? This will all be solved in time young padawan. Your quest for the ultimate Aztec manuer is coming to a climax. May the force be with you!!! ······························································ This is where I want you to click! Rate me! Ha Ha Check out some cool Mac OS X Apps that were made by me here! 10101 Software - You can take my iMac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the wireless mouse! Posts: 179 | Registered: Tuesday, November 18 2003 08:00 |