The Geneforges.
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, April 17 2007 17:19
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In GF1,3,and 3,what happens when you use the geneforge? If you use them in the end,or beginning. Like what stats does it increase,or change about you? I know in GF4 it gives like 4 skills...and make everyone call you a freak. -------------------- R.R Posts: 179 | Registered: Friday, February 23 2007 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, April 17 2007 17:38
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WARNING SPOILERS OF THE FIRST 3 GENEFORGES AHEAD: / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / Well, the first Geneforge you get most your stats raised considerably and the ending is pretty awesome in which you actually get the true benefit of the Geneforge. The next two Geneforges are Drakon Geneforges that just kill you to use. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, April 17 2007 18:02
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Kind of a shame that you don't get a choice about whether or not you want to use the GF4 Geneforge. Posts: 85 | Registered: Sunday, March 18 2007 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, April 18 2007 09:57
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It is a shame... So you use no geneforges in 2 and 3,and you do get to use the geneforge in GF1,and its nice? can i get the endings to GF1? -------------------- R.R Posts: 179 | Registered: Friday, February 23 2007 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Wednesday, April 18 2007 10:38
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Well, you can either destroy the Geneforge, in which you pretty much rule the world, or you can leave it standing, in which a lot of other Shapers use it and become create a worldwide war of chaos and death. There all also minor variations depending on which of the sects you let survive. [ Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:39: Message edited by: Spokesmage of the Dead ] -------------------- May the fires of Undeath burn in your soul, and consume it. Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, April 18 2007 13:50
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It doesn't bother me that you can't choose wether or not to use the geneforge in Geneforge 4. You have to see what it's like to be that outsider at some point. Besides, the game is called Geneforge, so it makes sense the plot revolves around using it, unlike in Geneforge 2 and 3. I've been disappointed in the direction Jeff has been taking the geneforge itself. I'm not usually one to complain, but the geneforge should be something that grants impossible power, and is coveted. The drakon geneforges sucked, barely making them any better than they already were. And the rebel geneforge was the worst yet, being the equivalent of Tuldarics magic only weaker. Then there is the unused on in Northforge, which, while it's what I've come to expect of the drakons, it was sad to see the game's namesake in such a state. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Wednesday, April 18 2007 15:10
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If the Geneforge gave impossible power, then the Rebels would be unstoppable merely by possessing it. You don't want Rebels to win, do you, Tully? As it is, the Geneforge does exactly what the name implies: it forges your genes. And don't play down the significance of the G4 Geneforge. Giving the ungifted the ability to Shape and perform magic is no small thing. -------------------- May the fires of Undeath burn in your soul, and consume it. Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, April 18 2007 15:40
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I agree, on first hand it's a bit dissapointing how small the bonuses are from using the Geneforge in GF4. However keep in mind that this is only a copy of the original (lets say, much more potent or powerfull) Geneforge in GF1. Also, as SotD pointed out, the mere fact that the Geneforge is able to take any ordinary human and give them the power of using magic and shaping (something that takes years to develop) is quite remarkable. Posts: 85 | Registered: Sunday, March 18 2007 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, April 18 2007 17:16
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You can do the same thing with a few canisters. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Wednesday, April 18 2007 17:20
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Yes. Canisters are one-use only, while Geneforges can be used as often as one likes, barring periodic light maintenance. Canisters, apparently, also give more egomania-per-use than a Geneforge does. Serviles can't use canisters, either, though the reason the Servile PC can is unexplained. Probably because he used the Geneforge. Unskilled people also need different canisters, judging by Lankan's canister in G3. [ Wednesday, April 18, 2007 17:21: Message edited by: Spokesmage of the Dead ] -------------------- May the fires of Undeath burn in your soul, and consume it. Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, April 19 2007 09:33
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I don't think you can use a Geneforge more than once... I tried again in Northforge Citadel,and i turned into goo,and died... -------------------- R.R Posts: 179 | Registered: Friday, February 23 2007 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Thursday, April 19 2007 10:17
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I think he meant that they can be used more than once, but not nessesarily by the same person. Strange that you can't use the Southforge geneforge more than once, yet you can go swimming in the one from Geneforge 1. You'd think that each one would only have so much power it can give you before your DNA is identical to the stuff in the pool. Of course, it makes sense that using two different geneforges would turn you to go, because that is twice the change, assuming that the two are not totally identicle. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, April 19 2007 11:03
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I would have thought that using the Geneforge on one that already has the power to shape would increase its effectiveness exponentially. The drakon Geneforge was kinda wimpy(although if it made them to strong they could be impossible to kill.) If the drakons can use a Geneforge, could other creations have their own? Imagine a UR-EYEBEAST. -------------------- "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 "But what ... is it good for?" --Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip. Posts: 152 | Registered: Monday, November 6 2006 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, April 19 2007 16:53
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Or an UR-Rotdhizon. :) how can you go swimming in the geneforge in GF1? That means instant death right? And i thought North and south Forge citadel had the same geneforges? I thought the caravan took it there? [ Thursday, April 19, 2007 16:54: Message edited by: Questionmarks. ] -------------------- R.R Posts: 179 | Registered: Friday, February 23 2007 08:00 |
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Councilor
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written Thursday, April 19 2007 17:05
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Originally by Questionmarks: quote:There is a journal that says after using it, it won't be able to do anything else to you, even if you swim in it. quote:No, Northforge and Southforge are two separate geneforges. Dikiyoba. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Thursday, April 19 2007 17:07
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Though they presumably do the same thing. -------------------- May the fires of Undeath burn in your soul, and consume it. Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, April 19 2007 18:17
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Ohh,okay,i get it now. Man i wish i could have used the same geneforge from GF1... And when you use it in GF1,is it still as painful in GF4? and if canisters are like "disposable genforges" does it hurt when you use them too? I would think it would hurt,but not as much,they are similar,in a way. and um... I want a Rotdhizon rebellion sooo baaaadly. :D Destroy the drakons! -------------------- R.R Posts: 179 | Registered: Friday, February 23 2007 08:00 |