Um - NPC help...
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Agent
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written Tuesday, December 27 2005 05:17
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Guys, I've been looking for a way to get certain npcs to join the party (if the party has a free slot). It's kinda like those people in A2 who join (Becca or something). My only problem is - I don't see it in the documents. Is this capability even in BoA? Thanks, - Archmagus Micael -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Avernum?" ~ Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). -------------------- MY FORUM! Randomosity at it's highest! :) Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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Master
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written Tuesday, December 27 2005 05:46
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yes, it can be done, you just didn't look closely enough in the docs. Look in "NPC's joining party calls." -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029 | Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Tuesday, December 27 2005 09:29
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quote:Adobe claims npcs don't exist anywhere in either of the docs. I'll redownlad the docs and see if they have it. Perhaps my verion got corrupted somehow. - Archmagus Micael -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Avernum?" ~ Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). -------------------- MY FORUM! Randomosity at it's highest! :) Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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The Establishment
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written Tuesday, December 27 2005 09:32
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http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blades_of_Avernum_Script_Reference#NPCs_Joining_Party_Cal ls -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Tuesday, December 27 2005 09:42
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You can also check out Sweetgrove's scripts in the Valley of Dying Things; look for Bruning. -------------------- quote: Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, December 27 2005 14:29
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I always had the impression that you could have a creature follow the party around, assist the party, even be considered part of the party - with one important difference - unlike in Nethergate, a fifth or sixth 'PC' cannot be improved. Essentially, they are a monster that follows the party, nothing less, nothing more. To actually join the party, be considered part of it, be ressurectable, gain experience, etc. - I think that this is beyond the current engine. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Tuesday, December 27 2005 14:51
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CPeters brings up an important point, which I'll summarize (to make sure it's clear): you can't have a PC behave exactly like Becca in A2. A BoA "joined NPC" is not like an AT "joined NPC." But if you want a BoA-style joined NPC, follow the instructions as above. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, December 28 2005 01:46
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Ah, Okay. That clears a few things up. One other thing though: will this NPC stay with the party in Outdoor combat, or will it just simply fail to appear? - Archmagus Micael -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Avernum?" ~ Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). -------------------- MY FORUM! Randomosity at it's highest! :) Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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Master
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written Wednesday, December 28 2005 04:07
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It will appear everywhere (unless its dead) and help the party with fighting. Also in the outdoors. However, i'm not sure if you can control it like becca in Av 2. i think the computer simply controls it. -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029 | Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, December 28 2005 10:38
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quote:The computer has total control of the NPC... so script them well. -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
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The Establishment
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written Wednesday, December 28 2005 11:02
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Unfortunately, NPC scripts are pretty dumb...I believe they fall back to basicnpc behavior except for DEAD_STATE and a few others. -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, December 28 2005 16:28
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If you have the patience to set all of the statistics and skills for a character through scripting calls, then it is completely possible to mimic the NPCs that become a controllable part of the party like in A1 and A2. Similarly, there can still only be 4 party members, so a full party would have to give up a member to gain the NPC. -------------------- Thuryl: I mean, most of us don't go around consuming our own bodily fluids, no matter how delicious they are. ==== Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies! ==== Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos. Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Wednesday, December 28 2005 16:44
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You'd have to do some odd things for that to work, though. There's no way to create a new character out of a blank (deleted) party slot, as far as I know. You'd need to mutate one of the party's characters and just instruct the player to change the character's name and graphic. [ Wednesday, December 28, 2005 16:45: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, December 28 2005 17:09
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Just realised what you meant. Disregard this post. [ Wednesday, December 28, 2005 17:23: Message edited by: CPeters ] -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |