How do you make YOUR Scenarios?

Author	Topic: How do you make YOUR Scenarios?
Drakon Master Apprentice Member # 4268	written Monday, April 19 2004 01:17 Profile #0 Hey I'm sorta new to making scenarios (meaning I havn't actually registered BoE so I couldn't make them then) and I was wondering how YOU make your scenarios personally? What order do you do? As in the - Town- Outdoors- Dungeons- Items- Dialog- Could you tell me? It would be pretty helpful. :) [ Monday, April 19, 2004 01:27: Message edited by: Drakon Master ] -------------------- He strikes silently with large claws..........and webbed feet! Posts: 24 | Registered: Thursday, April 15 2004 07:00
Rufo Apprentice Member # 4185	written Monday, April 19 2004 01:33 Profile Homepage #1 I'm pretty new on scenario design too, but I guess this order should be appropriate: 1. Outdoors - Becuase it's the world. Everything is "inside" this section, so to make things work together and get the idea of what your world looks like I would do it first. 2. Town - You usually start the game in a town, so make sure you have a place to start before you do the rest. Other towns can wait. 3. Items - Do some items for the first town and make sure it looks good. Other items can wait. 4. Dialogue - So you can get the first quest and make your town alive. 5. Dungeons - So you can finish the quests you got in the first town and get some XP. 6. Other towns - When you're done with most of the dungeons, you can start with new towns and new dialogue for them. 7. Items - Create the rest of the important items, then create less important items as you work. I guess more experinced designers can help you, but this is the way I'd do it... -------------------- Rufo, Vahnatai Ka, Te Pinoat Posts: 30 | Registered: Friday, April 2 2004 08:00
Drakon Master Apprentice Member # 4268	written Monday, April 19 2004 01:38 Profile #2 Yeah Id agree with most of that but I think that the dialog would go last because that puts the story together -------------------- He strikes silently with large claws..........and webbed feet! Posts: 24 | Registered: Thursday, April 15 2004 07:00
Drakefyre Triad Mage Member # 7	written Monday, April 19 2004 01:43 Profile Homepage #3 1) Write out the plot, what happens, plan, etc. 2) Make the custom monsters, terrain, items, etc. that you need. Also write/find appropriate creature scripts, terrain scripts, etc. 3) Outdoors 4) Towns and their dialogue together - Town 0 and Town 0's dialogue, Town 1 and Town 1's dialogue, etc. Remember that you can (and should) always go back to add more dialogue. 5) Dungeons. You can do these interspersed with the towns too. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Drakon Master Apprentice Member # 4268	written Monday, April 19 2004 02:00 Profile #4 I wouldnt think u would do the Scripts first. :confused: -------------------- He strikes silently with large claws..........and webbed feet! Posts: 24 | Registered: Thursday, April 15 2004 07:00
spyderbytes Shock Trooper Member # 4180	written Monday, April 19 2004 02:24 Profile #5 I do things differently from the norm, it seems (no surprise to me or those who know me ;) ). As with just about any creative endeavor, I figure out where I want to end up (the big finale) and a general idea of how I'm going to get there. Then I start in just as the player will... in this case, by creating the first town. From there, I create items, creatures, terrain, etc. as I come to them and need them. Makes for some nice variety instead of doing too much of one thing all at once. :) That causes a bit of "back and forthing" (e.g., leaving "holes" in an NPCs dialog in the first town because you know he's going to have to talk about something you haven't really figured out yet); but overall, it's the way that works best for me. Otherwise, I tend to get entirely too formulaic. One caveat: you have to really trust yourself and have a firm handle on your creative process to do things this way. You run the danger of either painting yourself into a corner or running afoul of the dread bloat beast (I don't know what should happen here, so instead I'll add this...). But those are easier to avoid, for me, than the staleness it seems I always get if I try to plan every little detail up front. -------------------- -spyderbytes Posts: 200 | Registered: Wednesday, March 31 2004 08:00
Khoth Post Navel Trauma ^_^ Member # 67	written Monday, April 19 2004 04:27 Profile Homepage #6 I do things in the order the player will encounter them, in general. Exceptions are particularly interesting/boring bits which I'll do earlier/later, and the intro, which I leave to the middle. Of course, I'll go back and add or change things, it's not totally linear. -------------------- Barcoorah: I even did it to a big dorset ram. New Mac BoE Posts: 1798 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00
Morgan Shaper Member # 22	written Monday, April 19 2004 07:06 Profile #7 I take a very non linear approach to scenario design - though not completely. I have the different parts of the scenario stuck in my head, so I won't design the middle before the beginning. However, inside those parts, I design dungeons and towns in a pretty random order. Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
Vent Warrior Member # 4186	written Monday, April 19 2004 12:38 Profile #8 I was curious to ask the question as I was starting to try do one too. In fact I had already a global story and some plots details and variations. But Not a fully written story with all details. I read advices to make something small for the first try so I got only the prologue of this story. For this prologue I have more details written and various draft ideas and possibilities. I had no idea where to start so I did few tests with the editor, far not enough. Written with more details the story was too abstract with the game and the editor in mind. So I tried to take a different aproach : From the story I had, I extracted : * List of the main NPC. For each I try be more detailed about traits and dependencies with other NPC, more than what is already written. * List of the main places. A short description for each plus some special use this place has. * List of events, not a point in the time but an event with a beginning and an end. For each a short description, the "Stuff done flag" for its start and for its end. For few the timer. In this phase I started a translation in english. :D In parallel I started different tables of dependencies : * A table of events dependencies to have a rough global idea of required chaining. This also help me to think more in term of possibilitie than just a written story that tends to linearity. I also try set up the base of start conditions and done conditions. * Table of links between NPC and events started or done. this includes bits of possible dialogs. All in all I try to translate and complete the story into these various tables. In pratice, I have already reach some limits in term of sizes. I think I will have to define different level of events in order to do different tables and keep their size not too big. I'll probably keep the table of links between main NPC and events. But seriously even if I get fun to do it (that's the more important!), I dunno at all where I go. :P [ Monday, April 19, 2004 12:41: Message edited by: Vent ] Posts: 175 | Registered: Friday, April 2 2004 08:00
The Creator BoE Posse Member # 112	written Monday, April 19 2004 13:58 Profile #9 I design my scenarios one sequence at a time, and then just link those sequences together. I think the farmhouse was the first thing I did in Deadly Goblins. Revenge was a fun experience - loads and loads of individual bits, and I had little idea how well they were going to work together. Then I linked it all up, played through the bug-infested alpha version, and had a blast. -------------------- Rate my scenarios! Areni Revenge To Live in Fear Deadly Goblins Ugantan Nightmare Isle of Boredom Posts: 1423 | Registered: Sunday, October 7 2001 07:00